To report my NDN to Social services?

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My NDN is African, so are both of her children, there's a man who goes in a few times a week and I've heard the children call him dad.
We live in a terraced house, and the walls are paper thin. We get up at around 8am most days & she is screaming already, calling the children bastards, c*nts, imbeciles, and shockingly the N word.
Last time i knocked on after the child was screaming for around 25 minutes with her screaming abuse at him, the kids are 5 & 7.
She has friends round often, i see them in the garden smoking, she never shouts while the visitors are there but any other time its full on shouting, then crying
It's dusturbing me now, shall i report and can i do it anonymously, even though she will probably know it's me.

Well I have reported it now, they said they would investigate soon.
She's currently screaming 'why the fuck do you do that when I've told you not too' over and over and the poor boy is crying his eyes out. Its horrific

Can you record it then you have evidence to back you up? Well done for reporting it though not easy to do when next door but you would never forgive yourself if something awful happened to them. They may leave them there as it is much more difficult to remove children these days. They will probably try to work with her with parenting classes etc. it sounds horrible for the kids.

Glad you reported. Those poor kids

good for you for reporting. its so so sad though isn't it. that poor boy.

@sarahandduck18 patenting classes? a bit of support?? No wonder these poor children who end up dead slip through the ss net when this is the approach taken, god knows what else is going onsad

What do you want them to do, have them adopted by tomorrow?

Well done for reporting her and supporting the children's well-being.

Thank you for doing this. Poor children. I was also coming on to ask if you are able to record her rants.

If there is abuse towards child/ren going on right now you can ring the police and yes 999 would be the right option.

Record what is going on.

@AnEPleaseBob no lets leave them there and send her to a hours long 'parenting class' a week
That will do the trick im sure!

How interesting. Some months ago I discussed the same situation which exists with my neighbours and I was essentially told I was a total twat for wanting to report them to SS because of the daily shouting, swearing, door slamming, children screaming and crying etc didn't matter because the children were essentially well dressed and otherwise card for and it would never meet the threshold

I reported them twice as I literally couldn't stand (and still cannot stand) hearing it 365 days a year, Christmas, holidays, weekends, birthdays, it's quite awful. There's only a break when they're on holiday or visiting some other poor bugger. Anyhoo, if they ever did investigate, nothing was done and the situation continues.

I hope in your case OP they do something and I wouldn't reject the idea of recording it if you can - people can present in a good light to SS and then go right back to their nasty ways when they leave the house (and it sounds like she's got two faces already when it comes to that).

and actually yes I do think that young children who are being called the n word and 'cunts' daily by their despicable mother should be removed from that environment. I find it horrifying that others would not think the same. Those poor poor kids

Cultural? - for god's sake, abuse is abuse. Culture does not come into it. FGM is "cultural" but it is rightly outlawed.

Make a recording, then contact SSD.

DoinIt, I think I remember that thread. People were making all kinds of weird excuses for the mums behaviour. I don't get the logic of it being ok for some cultures to abuse their children but not others.

*@DoinItForTheKids

I hope in your case OP they do something and I wouldn't reject the idea of recording it if you can - people can present in a good light to SS and then go right back to their nasty ways when they leave the house (and it sounds like she's got two faces already when it comes to that).*

That is so true. Social workers can only discover so much, as they visit a couple of times a week. They need help from neighbours, who are of course around all the time.

You did the right thing in reporting this, OP.

It is not just that you should report this, you absolutely have to report it. This is child abuse and it is everyone's business.

Oh, I see you have reported it. Well done, and keep on calling SS if the abuse continues.

“Ginormousberry

sarahandduck18

You’re response is EXACTLY why we have serious case report after serious case report published with NO LESSONS LEARNT!

A bit of support FFS 🙄🙄”

I don’t understand your post at all- to the point I’m wondering whether you misunderstood Sarahanducks post? What’s wrong with saying the mother needs support? How is that related to the need for serious case reviews?

I don't know any African people who use the N word and the C word on their kids.

Ie. It's not 'cultural'.

There's shouting and there's a level of abuse/ aggression that these words suggest which all my African friends would consider unacceptable.

Don't be surprised if all that happens is the mother is "given advice"

I witnessed child abuse that was far more than this (sadly) and no-one would take action.

Of course she’ll be given advice. What else do people think will happen? Outcomes for children in care are awful, why would you expect that they would be better off removed?

Some children are most certainly better off being removed into care.