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AIBU baby showers

78 replies

wanderingcloud · 26/08/2018 11:44

Been invited to a baby shower for a colleague's third baby.

Is this a thing now????

I thought a baby shower was for first time parents, who need "baby stuff" not second/third babies where you already have all the stuff!

AIBU?!

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crispysausagerolls · 26/08/2018 17:15

AllesAusLiebe

The vast majority of people probably care as much about celebrating someone else’s baby as they do about someone else’s birthday! As in, not that much but enough to go along to a party for it. Why? Because that’s what friends do, and if they enjoy spending time together (which one would expect of friends) it’s just an occasion to get together for a happy reason.

When the baby has actually arrived it’s much harder to organise a get together for obvious reasons.

As I said previously, it depends on how the celebration is. Mine was completely paid for by me and hosted by the godmother. Gifts were not expected. So it was actually just a fun day for everyone. Don’t know why people are so miserable. You wouldn’t get this sort of miserable response about a birthday party and that’s an annual occurrence.

SpottingTheZebras · 26/08/2018 17:19

there is nothing to celebrate until the safe arrival of a baby. I even say this as someone who had 4 years of ttc and fertility treatment to conceive my son. Nothing is a given.

My daughter died hours after she was born but I still wouldn’t consider it ridiculous if someone else wanted to celebrate and have a baby shower. I would envy them for their confidence and how relaxed they are, but I wouldn’t think then ridiculous at all.

crispysausagerolls · 26/08/2018 17:21

SpottingTheZebras

I am very sorry for your loss

AllesAusLiebe · 26/08/2018 17:25

SpottingTheZebras I’m so sorry to hear that.

WaterOffaDucksCrack · 26/08/2018 17:35

Bloody American things I don't know where all the xenophobia comes from for anything American. They are so different over there. Here the mother to be expects the shower to be paid for in a lot of circimstances plus all the presents.

I don't attend baby showers due to having had many previous losses. I also think the ones in this country has become all about the maximum value of gifts. But then many things have become about money and gifts which is sad.

abacucat · 26/08/2018 17:55

The American baby shower I attended was far more about supporting the mother before giving birth. She made it clear that if we gave a present for the baby, no present should be given after the birth. It was not present orientated at all, and seemed quite old fashioned. You could imagine women meeting in the same way a hundred years ago to share wisdom on giving birth and looking after a new born baby, and a space for the pregnant woman to discuss her fears with largely other mothers who are friends and relatives. And it happened in her house - her partner had made a buffet lunch for us all. But nothing very fancy.
What seems to happen in Britain is totally different.

MarchingOrders · 26/08/2018 18:42

@bridgetreilly these are the only types of baby showers I've been to! I think in the uk it's more chilled out?

Strokethefurrywall · 26/08/2018 19:41

@crosstalk

... Baby showers and other social events to celebrate an impending or recent birth are popular around the world. They are often women-only social gatherings.
▪ In Australia, Canada, New Zealand, and the United States, baby shower is a common tradition.
▪ In the United Kingdom, baby showers are not historically customary, but are becoming more common.
▪ In Bangladesh, in many places a party named "sadh" (সাধ) or "sadhbhokkhon" (সাধভক্ষণ) is observed on the 7th month of pregnancy. After this the woman resides in her father's house instead of her husband's until the birth.
▪ In Brazil, a party called "chá de bebê" (baby tea) is offered before birth.
▪ In Bulgaria, as a superstition, no baby gifts are given to the family prior to the baby's birth. However, family and friend would give or send unsolicited gifts to the newborn baby, even if some babies are kept from the public for the first 40 days to prevent early infections.
▪ In Chinese tradition a baby shower, manyue (满月), is held one month after the baby is born.
▪ In Hmong culture, a baby shower is called "Puv Hli," and is held one month after the baby is born. A ceremony would be hosted by the paternal grandparents or the father to welcome the baby to the family by tying the baby's wrist with white yarn and/or strings.
▪ In Italy, as of 26 August 2018, such a party is not customary, nor part of traditional culture. At least at a national level.
▪ In Armenia, a baby shower is called "qarasunq" (քառասունք) and is celebrated 40 days after the birth. It is a mixed party for all relatives and friends. Guests usually bring gifts for the baby or parents.
▪ In Iran, a baby shower (Persian:حمام زایمان) is also called a "sismooni party" (Persian:جشن سیسمونی). It is celebrated 1–3 months before the baby's birth. Family and close friends give gifts intended for the baby such as a cot, toys, and baby clothes.
▪ In Costa Rica, a baby shower party is called té de canastilla ("basket tea"), and multiple events are held for a single pregnancy for the family, co-workers, and friends.
▪ In Nepal, a baby-shower party is called "dahi-chiura" (दही चिउरा) and is celebrated in the 6th or 7th month of pregnancy.
▪ In Mongolia, a baby shower is called "хүүхдийн угаалга" (huuhdyn ugaalga).
▪ In Hindu tradition, they are called by different names depending on the family's community.
• In northern India it is known as godbharaai, in western India, especially Maharashtra, the celebration is known as dohaaljewan, and in West Bengal and Odisha it is called saadhroshi.
• In southern India, in Tamil Nadu and Andhra Pradesh it is called seemantham, valaikaapu or poochoottal (the expecting mother wears bangles and is adorned with flowers); in Karnataka it is called seemanta(ಸೀಮಂತ) or kubasa (ಕುಬಸ). It is held when the woman is in her 5th, 7th, or 9th month of pregnancy. Although these might be celebrated together, they are very different: seemantham is a religious ceremony, while valaikappu and poochoottal are purely social events much like Western baby showers. In a valaikappu or poochoottal, music is played and the expectant mother is decked in traditional attire with lots of flowers and garlands made of jasmine or mogra. A swing is decorated with flowers of her choice, which she uses to sit and swing. At times, symbolic cut-outs of moons and stars are put up. The elderly ladies from the household and community shower blessings on the expectant mother and gifts are given to her.
• In Gujarat, it is known as seemant or kholo bharyo, a religious ritual for most Gujarati Hindus during the 5th or 7th month of pregnancy, usually only for the first child. The expectant mother can only go to her father's house for delivery after her seemant. They offer special prayer and food to the goddess "Randal, the wife of the Sun".
• In Jain tradition, the baby shower ceremony is often called as "Shreemant". The expectant mother can go to her fathers house in the 5th month of pregnancy and has to come back before the baby shower ceremony. After the ceremony the expectant mother cannot go back to her fathers house. The ceremony is only performed on Sunday, Tuesday or Thursday of the 7th or 9th month of pregnancy. During the ceremony one of the practice is that the younger brother- in - law of the expectant mother dips his hands in Kumkuma water and slaps the expectant mother seven times on her cheeks and then the expectant mother slaps her younger brother - in - law seven times on his cheeks.
• In Kerala it is known as pulikudi or vayattu pongala', and is practiced predominantly in the Nair community, though its popularity has spread to other Hindu sects over the years. On an auspicious day, after being massaged with homemade ayurvedic oil the woman has a customary bath with the help of the elderly women in the family. After this, the family deity is worshipped, invoking all the paradevatas (family deities) and a concoction of herbal medicines prepared in the traditional way, is given to the woman. She is dressed in new clothes and jewellery used for such occasions. A big difference in the western concept of baby shower and Hindu tradition is that the Hindu ceremony is a religious ceremony to pray for the baby's well-being. In most conservative families, gifts are bought for the mother-to-be but not the baby. The baby is showered with gifts only after birth.
▪ In the Islamic tradition of Aqiqah, an animal (such as a sheep) is slaughtered on the seventh day after the birth, and the meat is distributed among relatives and the poor. The practice is considered sunnah and is not done universally.[8][9]
▪ In South Africa, a baby shower is called a stork party (named after the folk myth that a white stork delivers babies), and typically takes place during the mother's 6th month. Stork parties, usually not attended by men and often organized as a surprise for the mother, involve silliness such as dressing up, and mothers receive gifts of baby supplies.
▪ In Nepal a baby shower is known as "dahi chiura khuwaune". The mother-to-be is given gifts from her elders and a meal is cooked for her according to her preferences. The pregnant mother is often invited by her relatives to eat meals with them. Pasni is a traditional celebration that often marks a baby boy's 6th month or a baby girl's 5th month, marking the transition to a diet higher in carbohydrates and allowing guests to bestow blessings, and money and other gifts.
▪ In Guatemala, only women attend this event. Middle-class women usually celebrate more than one baby shower (one with close friends, co-workers, family, etc.).
▪ In Russia, and Commonwealth of Independent States, there are no baby showers, though some of the younger generation are starting to adapt it.

There... googled if for you. Is it so very hard to realize that many other people in many other countries do things differently??

We don't all have to do things the "British" way, and just because people don't do things the "British" way, it doesn't make a custom grabby, obnoxious or, the greatest curse of all, American...

greendale17 · 26/08/2018 19:42

I like baby showers but agree they are only for the first baby.

KC225 · 26/08/2018 19:47

Only ever been to one. Mum to be was a student who didn't realise she was pregnant and boyfriend had already dumped her for his ex. Mum had arranged the baby shower as a surprise, everyone had to bring a dish and it was in a room above a pub where the mum worked. Drinks were from the bar but heavily discounted.

Mum to be had nothing, and were we asked to bring anything - if only a packet of baby wipes or tissues. Everything was gratefully received. Mum to be hadn't a clue of what 50% of the gifts were - which was great fun as we explained it all.

A lovely thing the mum arranged was a visitors book. Guests were asked to give best tips if you were a mum or words of encouragement if not. I flicked through it at the end and it made me quite teary.

Like I said, I've be only been to one so I don't recognise the grab fest others have mentioned. It was a great evening of women pulling together to help out a young woman who was both surprised and so grateful.

Strokethefurrywall · 26/08/2018 19:47

Bloody American things - I don't know where all the xenophobia comes from for anything American.

Apparently a misplaced sense of superiority. Because all Americans are crass, grabby and classless...

Flappergirl86 · 26/08/2018 19:52

For mine I had all my mates over and we all brought some food and shared it. It was also sister act fancy dress themed. I asked for donations to save the children instead of presents but it was lovely to see everyone before I shat out a sprog and lived in a parallel universe for 3 months.

I think ritual is important and it's reassuring for a new mum to see she has a support network who are invested in her baby as well. If you're not comfortable, just don't go.

AllesAusLiebe · 26/08/2018 20:01

You see, this is what I don’t understand.

I knew I had a solid support network amongst my friends and family without a premature celebration, silly games and lots of instagram/Facebook photos so the rest of the world could see what a fabulous time I was having.

My friends even made an effort to do more ‘pregnancy-friendly’ activities with me instead of just going out for beers, we’d have dinner, go to the cinema etc.

Of course i was asked if I wanted a baby shower, but I just can’t see the point until a baby arrives. It seemed premature, like having a birthday party a month in advance.

crispysausagerolls · 26/08/2018 20:26

allesausliebe

I have a 7 week old and I have no idea when I would have the time or inclination to have some sort of celebratory gathering now? I’m tired, my baby would be in need of my constant care and attention so I could not relax and enjoy properly and I am sure he would find a group of people at once quite overstimulating, as has happened before. And when do you host this party? When he’s 1 month? 2? 3? When is the right time?

As a PP mentioned above, a baby shower or similar is done in many cultures. It’s also a great time for mothers to offer advice to new mothers etc, make the new mother feel celebrated and a bit pampered before she embarks on a very gruelling physical journey.

If you don’t get it it’s fine but you are being so miserable about it

AmIRightOrAMeringue · 26/08/2018 21:32

Not my thing at all. But that's probably because I'm socially awkward and need alcohol to cope with being with a lot of people at once. Also I hate organised fun - playing 'games' etc (weird I know). Also talking about babies isn't my favourite topic. So nothing about them appeals to me. But I'm clearly a miserable bastard as I hate hen do's and work away days etc as well.

Saying that, if it was just a 'let's get together before the baby''s born' and go out for a meal or something with a couple of close friends then that would be nice. But no gifts or games!

I must hang around with similarly bastardy people as I don't know many people who have had one and never been to one. My friend did have a low key one (pub lunch I think) that I couldn't make and unfortunately her baby was stillborn. She didn't do it for the second (thankfully went on to have a normal birth)

Thistles24 · 26/08/2018 22:33

I’ve enjoyed the ones I’ve been to. There’s been no gift list, just a nice get together for a group of friends before the baby arrives. We do all buy a wee gift (no more than £5, something for useful for mum or baby) and put it into a wee box/gift bag. Also do a guess the weight/date/ name suggestions, all very casual- sometimes noted down on a notebook, sometimes just on a phone. Doesn’t matter to us if it’s first or third baby, it’s still just as exciting.
Only do this with my closest friends, maybe would feel differently if we were invited to DH’s colleagues baby shower for her 4th child and expected to spend £50 on a gift!

Stupomax · 26/08/2018 22:39

Here in the US I've never been to a baby shower that's involved any silly games or photos on Facebook.

We've just had some cake and tea/coffee, given some small useful gifts like nappies (with receipts so they can be exchanged), wished the new mum-to-be the best, answered any questions she had, and encouraged her to stay in touch once she's gone on maternity leave and when she's had the baby.

Apparently this is a hideous grabby classless thing to do - please forgive us for forcing this appalling tradition upon the rest of the world.

Stupomax · 26/08/2018 22:41

And as someone already said, we do it before the birth because we don't want to impose on a tired, sore, new mum after the birth.

MaryDollNesbitt · 26/08/2018 23:03

They are tacky beyond belief.

I can totally understand wanting to get family/friends/co-workers together for a catch-up (go for afternoon tea or lunch or something) before the baby arrives, but I think the whole shower nonsense with gifts and games and balloons and stork accented cakes is complete and utter shite. I've never gone to one. I never will. It seems a bit daft to celebrate a birth that hasn't taken place yet. I'll make a fuss, offer my congratulations and send a card and gift once the baby has arrived. I always send mum some flowers/a gift/some vouchers too - something just for her. But I can't be bothered with baby showers.

I don't 'do' engagement parties either ...

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helpawomanout · 26/08/2018 23:28

Three new married mum I'm friends with had one thrown for them by my friendship group, one got pregnant by mistake and isn't with the father and no one bothered organising one for her. I no longer near live them and don't particularly like baby showers so I was never an organiser but probably would have organised one for her. Baby showers seem to be thrown for near little happy family conceptions, ones for new mums where it isn't so perfect seem to be left behind. In my experience anyway, but apparently I'm friends with some very snobby people Confused

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VivaLaVieBoheme · 26/08/2018 23:45

So baby showers are not my cup of tea. But similarly to many threads I read on here, I just cannot understand receiving an invitation from a friend celebrating a life event that is exciting and important to them (be it a baby shower, wedding, birthday, whatever) and not just being happy to be asked to celebrate with them. Is it really that big a deal to do something for your friends even if it isn't your favourite way of doing things? What is the big deal about buying a baby grow and congratulating your friend on her pregnancy?

It must be so exhausting to spend all this time frothing at other people being grabby or even just not celebrating life events the way you feel is appropriate and thus obviously the only acceptable way.

Cheekyfseverywhere · 26/08/2018 23:45

Some work friends organised a baby shower for me they i didn't ask for one of expect one. They organised games, food and a cake it was lovely just all the ladies in my life coming together and meeting up i got a few gifts nothing major but then i didn't want or need anything. I think baby showers are great and the games are hilarious. I only had one for my first dd and would not have another.

LeighaJ · 26/08/2018 23:54

"ChangerChangerson

"Soooooooo fucking bored of daily threads on MN bashing baby showers"

Me too. Regular occurrence and always go the same way."

Me three. It's always...

"It's all the Americans fault waaah." Like someone held a gun to Brits heads and made them have baby showers. Bitch please. 😂

"Meh they're so grabby." Then don't go to one or buy them anything or even see the baby.

"AIBU not to go?" OFC not the answer is always OFC not, no one is forcing you to go because you're freaking adults.

It's all just so lame. 🙄

woodfires · 27/08/2018 00:06

They aren't American if they are being held in the UK by Brits.
I have been to one held by an American and mostly attended by them, it was really fun, yes it had a few silly games, but it was a really a tea party where a much wanted baby's arrival was anticipated and women took time to support another woman about to embark on a huge life change. Actually attending one did wonders to change my rather superior and misguided views about them. Although my cultural superstitions about not overly preparing for the baby would prevent me from having one I would happily attend another.

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