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To think that Nightwatch should have specific "orders"

137 replies

Maryzsnewaccount · 25/08/2018 23:13

And that if they are going to delete threads about child rapists, they should be ordered to deleted every news story, on every topic. Or none at all.

Because the alternative makes it look as though there are some Nightwatchers (who I admire as a group, in general) who are going beyond their brief.

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AngryAttackKittens · 26/08/2018 00:39

I hope the fact that the Times is now reporting indicates that there was an injunction which has now expired, and there will be more coverage to come.

If so it will be interesting to see how The Guardian covers it.

SD1978 · 26/08/2018 00:41

The issue- and yes I'm being vague, isn't perpetrator, but his links to someone else. The confusion is if the person he was linked to was more 'main stream' the link would be getting shouted from the rooftop. Instead there is no mention of this individual, or the fact they knew the charges had been laid and were being investigated, and they continued to have strong links to the convicted individual. There is understandably confusion as to why the goose and the gander are being treated unequally.

ErrolTheDragon · 26/08/2018 00:42

If so it will be interesting to see how The Guardian covers it.

Or, indeed, if it covers it...

ErrolTheDragon · 26/08/2018 00:43

Read (between the lines of) The Times piece, SD

BoreOfWhabylon · 26/08/2018 00:44

Thank you Andrew Gilligan!

SD1978 · 26/08/2018 00:52

@ErrolTheDragon I have- but that is (currently) the only article which puts forward any information. The tabloids (DM, Sun) would normally Lao up and splash this everywhere with crappy writing. Instead, tumbleweeds.

AngryAttackKittens · 26/08/2018 00:53

That's why I think the reason the DM etc wasn't making the Green Party link was probably because of an injunction.

OlennasWimple · 26/08/2018 02:40

Has the other, longer, thread on this topic gone poof?

I reported something on it and tried to go back to it and now can't find it

LassWiADelicateAir · 26/08/2018 02:53

I hope the fact that the Times is now reporting indicates that there was an injunction which has now expired, and there will be more coverage to come

There was no injunction on reporting the crime and naming him. The Sun, The Daily Mail, The Record, The Mirror and The Metro all published it - with pictures. There might have been a restriction on mentioning Aimee.

If so it will be interesting to see how The Guardian covers it

Nothing so far.

LassWiADelicateAir · 26/08/2018 02:55

That's why I think the reason the DM etc wasn't making the Green Party link was probably because of an injunction

Probably correct but it didn't stop them publishing the story about him- unlike the radio silence from the so called quality press.

AngryAttackKittens · 26/08/2018 03:13

The broadsheets have shown a distinct lack of moral courage when it comes to this story.

Putyourdamnshoeson · 26/08/2018 06:37

There was no injunction.

There was however a LOT of freely available info in the public domain about the family history.

Sick making and suspicious.

LadybirdsAreBirds · 26/08/2018 06:43

The BBC website has the effect of Brexit on the Grand National on the Front Page. So thats all good

Men wearing pink slacks and horses vs women and children

Yddraigoldragon · 26/08/2018 07:10

The comments below the times article are shocking! Very pointed!

LadybirdsAreBirds · 26/08/2018 07:10

Sorry, punctuation error above

Men wearing pink slacks, and horses vs women and children

LadybirdsAreBirds · 26/08/2018 07:13

Yddraioldragon

Yes. This is notable:

In June, Aimee Challoner addressed the West Midlands Police Force Leadership Conference, invited by West Midlands Police LGBT Network, and was thanked by the Chief Constable. This is extraordinary given that Aimee's father and election agent, who lived in the same house, was at that time charged with heinous crimes

Yddraigoldragon · 26/08/2018 07:17

Baloo, an assistant scout leader and volunteer with children’s gymnastics... oh dear lord!

longwayoff · 26/08/2018 07:18

Well unless the Greens want to see their few votes flushed away they need to select better candidates. That's my vote gone elsewhere for sure.

picklemepopcorn · 26/08/2018 07:24

What has shocked me, as I didn't think it was possible, is that old online newspaper articles have been rewritten to exclude the reference to the perpetrator's child, now a young politician.

That seems very dodgy to me. Rewriting history.

LadybirdsAreBirds · 26/08/2018 07:26

I have just said this on another thread, but will say it again. All other political parties are involved in this. They have been groomed.

JackietheBackie · 26/08/2018 07:36

I think if the GP want to support their candidate they should seriously consider encourage them to take a break from the public eye so they can process all that has happened in privacy and proper psychological support. This is still their Dad, and they themselves have had an extremely unsafe childhood. Just with the stuff that is in the public domain about Social Services involvement through their childhood.

The Father appears to be the very worst kind of evil narsacist. A has had a lifetime of gaslighting and doing their best to please Daddy to keep themselves safe. It isn't fair to brush this under the carpet like it is a tax returns error.

Obviously my main sympathy is with the bravery little girl at the heart of this, but I feel very sorry for all the children of the family too. They deserved a better childhood than the one they got.

NewUserNameTime · 26/08/2018 07:54

Disgusting.

That poor child

NewUserNameTime · 26/08/2018 07:58

Fully agree she must have known! The house would have been full of police/forensic experts etc

Putyourdamnshoeson · 26/08/2018 08:07

pickle we were always at war with Eurasia.

AuntieStella · 26/08/2018 08:20

I've tried googling this morning, on the name of the convicted person, and am getting no hits on first few pages relating to this. So if major papers are carrying it, they're doing it in a way that doesn't index as usual.

One main reason for reporting restrictions is if further (linked) trials are expected imminently. It's why Baby P wasn't named straight away, and what Tommy Robinson ended up wins ontempy conviction for.

If you think family members were somehow accessories after the fact, and the police have overlooked something, then make that case. But just linking the crimes of another person to another is wrong - even when closely related. And criticising someone for carrying out their normal duties seems very off.