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Does anyone else experience this?

33 replies

Flyingpigs247 · 25/08/2018 03:23

It's happened several times now and always when in a big shop (supermarket, toy store etc).
I start feeling really dizzy and detached from my surroundings.
My entire body feels weak and I just feel as though I need to get out of there!

I'm not sure if it's the feeling unwell that makes me panic, or if the feeling of panic comes first and makes me feel unwell.
I know that sounds bizarre but it's like a vicious circle.
The more I panic, the worse the dizzy sensation becomes, and the worse I feel the more I panic.
I have suffered from panic attacks in the past, but I'm also pre menstrual so I'm not sure if it's anxiety, hormones or something else.
I'm hoping as it has only happened in big shops up to now that it's anxiety related rather than something physical.

It was literally as though I'd stepped onto the waltzers!

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BetsyBigNose · 25/08/2018 04:10

I recognise exactly the sensation you're describing, and as you've said, it sounds like the start of a panic attack; before it gets to the 'full blown' stage.

I get panicky in large crowds, sometimes in big places (like supermarkets) with lots of people around but my worst ones are when I'm driving on the motorway - which is terrifying, as my 'inner monologue' starts trying to convince me that I'm going to crash the car and kill everyone on board! I also know what you mean by 'feeling detached'; I experience 'depersonalisation', which for me manifests as seeing my hands on the steering wheel and not being able to associate them as belonging to me (therefore, as I am told by the voice in my head: 'The car is even more likely to crash since there are a random pair of hands that don't belong to you steering the bloody thing!') - it feels really strange.

I know that the sensation can be really physical - the first time I had a panic attack, I was utterly convinced I was having a heart attack (despite only being 19 at the time), with a racing heart, chest pain, dizziness and feeling like I was going to faint, so I totally understand why you want to put your mind at rest.

I'd just go and speak to your GP about it - they may run a couple of tests to confirm that it's not physical, just in case (e.g. perhaps a quick blood test to check your dizziness isn't caused by anaemia) but they'll also be able to help you decide how to treat your anxiety. CBT seems like a pretty widely recommended treatment these days but it wasn't around when I was first diagnosed, so I don't know an awful lot about it, but your GP may suggest giving it a go and mindfulness is also popular. I was prescribed Propranolol, which is a beta-blocker, so it works on slowing your heart rate down and reducing your blood pressure so that the physical effects of panic aren't so pronounced. For me, it means that although my head might start telling me 'You're about to faint at the wheel, steer into the central reservation on the M5, causing a 15 car pile up and killing 22' (it's oddly specific), my body can't react by making my heart race, shooting my blood pressure up and making me see stars. I take one before I embark on any car journey longer than an hour, or where I will be driving on the motorway. I still get 'the voice', but I can shout it down because I don't get to the stage where my body is picking up on my brain's 'panic cues', if you see what I mean? Meds may not be the answer for you, but it may be worth asking about them to have in reserve whilst you wait for any 'talking therapy' to kick in. Sometimes it just helps me to know that I've got some in my handbag, just in case.

Panic attacks are horrible, I hope you get it sorted quickly - good luck!

Broken11Girl · 25/08/2018 04:29

Yep, that sounds like anxiety. I get similar.

MyOtherProfile · 25/08/2018 04:30

I get this sometimes while out shopping. I've never experienced it anywhere else. Kind of relieved to hear someone else ralk about it.

HumptyNumptyNooNoo · 25/08/2018 04:39

Well I would suggest you do an online order for home delivery.

KitandPup · 25/08/2018 05:47

Yes!! I sometimes get it crossing the road too (I get dizzy checking both ways). I just have to hot foot it out before I have a panic attack. It's just too bright/too open and if people start walking towards me it makes me dizzy. Sorry, I don't know what it is though. I also have anxiety so could be that. I have sensory processing difficulties too so could be related to that..?

justilou1 · 25/08/2018 06:02

Could be a panic attack OR it could be a type of ocular migraine which is often caused by fluorescent lighting. Part of the migraine involves a “warning” or “feeling” that it’s coming on known as the “Alice in Wonderland Syndrome” worth looking into as well.

spiderplantsalad · 25/08/2018 06:36

Yes, I have, I have some trouble with sensory overload. Sometimes it's fine to carry on, sometimes I have to cut things short. can you get your shopping delivered?

387I2 · 25/08/2018 06:40

It's in all likelihood stress related. What else is going on in your life? You need to take an objective look into that and see, if there's anything you can change or do something about.

CSIblonde · 25/08/2018 07:31

I get dizzy & weak "all over my body" like you describe when I'm anaemic. I'd get a GP appt just in case it's that.

Housecat09 · 25/08/2018 07:33

I get this too. It’s anxiety. Not harmful physically but still unpleasant.

ChipmunksAreMissing · 25/08/2018 07:37

I always feel like this in Westfield I'm White City! I think it's because it's so big and something to do with the lighting

longwayoff · 25/08/2018 07:37

Sounds like panic. Horrible. I find bright light - especially that bright 'white' glare which is sun through high cloud - and fluorescent lighting make it much worse. Dark glasses help.

LynetteScavo · 25/08/2018 07:38

It sounds like anxiety.

I have a theory we haven't evolved sufficiently to deal with new, man made environments like supermarkets.

I shop at Aldi because it's less anxiety inducing. The store is smaller and, and there's mostly only one type of each thing thing so I don't have to make decisions.

Crossing roads in tricky places and working out foreign time tables for bus/train travel also send me into a spin.

Of course, online shopping never going on holiday, and basically never leaving the house is the answer. Hmm

LynetteScavo · 25/08/2018 07:41

Sensory overload, causing anxiety makes sense.

Spam88 · 25/08/2018 07:49

I was going to suggest migraines as well - my friend gets ones like this where she just sort of gets a bit spaced out and becomes unresponsive (it's slightly terrifying if you're with her!).

BiscuitMachine · 25/08/2018 08:05

I remember my mum used to get this when I was young (she was late thirties at the time). She would have “funny turns” as she called them in large, brightly lit shops. She was having anxiety issues, but after a few of these episodes did go to the docs to get checked out, and was found to have very high blood pressure. I second what others have said, get to the GP for a check over.

Flyingpigs247 · 25/08/2018 08:20

Thank you for all the replies.

I'm going to try to get a GP appointment next week.
I think it's most likely anxiety related, but the migraine theory is also interesting as I do suffer from "migraine with aura" (I've had them since I was a teenager and are hormone related) so that could be a possibility too.

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Dollymixture22 · 25/08/2018 08:52

I have this with both miagraines in my teens and now anxiety.

One you know what it is it is so much easier to manage. My GP was great on both occasions. I thought I had something really serious Andy he immediately recognised hat it actually was! He did some neurological tests but just to reassure me!

Spreadingcudweed · 25/08/2018 08:57

I get exactly what you are describing in large supermarkets and sometimes in IKEA! I hate shopping and busy indoor shopping centres! Outdoor markets for me very time!

longwayoff · 25/08/2018 09:11

I had no idea this was so common. Maybe huge supermarkets should look at making shopping there more comfortable. I hate being in them and mostly shop online.

EduCated · 25/08/2018 09:14

I get this very occasionally, usually in big shops with big, bright industrial sort of lighting. I think it tends to happen more when I’m a bit tired or haven’t eaten.

PrincessWire · 25/08/2018 09:18

I get this, particularly if a large number of people are walking the opposite way to me, ie I'm walking against the crowd.

I've not had a full blown panic attack for many years now but that feeling is the start of one.

PrincessWire · 25/08/2018 09:19

And well done Humpty for the most unhelpful comment I've seen on MN for some time.

WhatAnAbsolutePenis · 25/08/2018 09:20

YES.

I swear it's the super market lights. Apparently it's a common place for it to happen.
I don't get it anymore thankfully but when I was generally anxious and panicky (I had it quite bad) supermarkets were the worst place for triggering me.

justilou1 · 25/08/2018 12:17

After years of thinking that I had a weird shopping-related anxiety issue, I developed a raft of other neurological symptoms that had my GP thinking that perhaps I had a brain tumour. Luckily it wasn’t that, but scarring from migraines which had been largely hormone-related, and were becoming worse and much more frequent with the onset of peri-menopause. (Yay for hormones! Gotta love ‘em!) The neurologist is the one who described “Alice in Wonderland Syndrome” which I have been experiencing for over twenty years thinking it was psychological, and now I am on anti-seizure medication which is helping to keep the migraines and this icky, trippy feeling at bay for the first time in so long!!!
*two side notes - I have a family history of epilepsy, but no symptoms. This type of migraine is often linked to epilepsy, so something to watch out for. Second note is that migraines are also linked to an increased stroke risk. Definitely go see your doctor about this if it’s happened more than once.

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