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AIBU to message my deceitful buyers directly?

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beanbag19 · 22/08/2018 20:04

Someone please talk me down from contacting my buyers directly to tell them what I think of them!

We agreed a sale in June. At the time we knew we wanted a new build but there were none of the one we wanted available so we planned to move in with parents. Our buyers said their buyer wanted to complete by 20 August so we agreed that date. They then came back and asked for 10 August due to a holiday. I said no as we needed more time to sort things out.

From the second the offer was accepted she chased and chased. I did everything on my side as quickly as possible. When I came to booking removals, I had to book in advance as we need storage too. Before I booked I asked the EA to confirm that we were still working towards 20 August, our buyer said yes. After me chasing again on 9 August, their solicitor advised that their buyer was awaiting a revised mortgage offer and some docs from the LA. They also advised that 20 August was not possible as our buyers were actually on holiday then, despite the fact that the buyers themselves had previously requested and confirmed this date. They agreed 31 August instead.

They went on holiday on 13 August and I/my solicitor have been chasing theirs for an update. Finally they confirmed today that their sale had fallen through. Their solicitor said that they weren't even sure if our buyer knew as they had advised that they would be uncontactable on holiday and weren't back until 25 August. I told my EA who then had a call from the buyer directly to confirm the situation, apparently they got back last night, so another lie. I then searched for their house on rightmove to see that they had advertised on open house to take place on 11 August, which was two days after they agreed to 31 August completion, so they presumably knew at that time that 31 August was impossible.

In the meantime, we have moved out (because we didn't want to lose the £90 deposit we paid to the removals for the sake of two weeks) and reserved a new build that we have to exchange on in 28 days or lose. Obviously we're not going to be able to exchange.

I am livid. I need our buyers to know what absolute arseholes they are. Apparently they still want our house, which would explain why they lied about everything. But how can you do that to to people? We're losing money as we should have been saving money at my parents but instead we're paying a mortgage for a house we don't live in. We're probably going to lose the house we've been waiting 9 months for. Who is so selfish and dishonest that they would treat people like that?

Obviously I won't message them, but I needed to get that off my chest so thanks if you got to the end!

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Crunchymum · 22/08/2018 20:44

Why on Earth did you move out? To save £90 on removals?

Blimey

beanbag19 · 22/08/2018 20:47

@Crunchymum it wasn't just £90, it was £90 for the sake of two weeks as we relied upon what they told us. We thought it would happen two weeks later so we didn't think it was worth losing £90 over.

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Eliza9917 · 22/08/2018 20:51

How are you doing help to buy if you are selling a house? Isn't help to buy just for first time buyers?

beanbag19 · 22/08/2018 20:52

@Eliza9917 help to buy is not just for FTB

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Crunchymum · 22/08/2018 20:53

The whole point is you relied on "word of mouth" from already unreliable buyers.

It's not your fault they are so shit but it wasn't the best decision on your part?

beanbag19 · 22/08/2018 20:56

@Crunchymum I absolutely accept that but I still think it's an appalling way to treat people.

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JuneMyNameIsJune · 22/08/2018 21:05

Vent away - it's perfectly understandable to be frustrated by their deceit.

We had this with our first flat. We had to give notice to our lovely long-term tenant who was fantastic as he deserved sufficient time to find a new home. Turned out our buyer had not a hope in hell of ever selling her flat as it had an invalid lease and a host of other problems.

It was horrible as we had a newborn baby, 1 salary and 2 mortgages. I still feel resentment to this day as she repeatedly lied to my face during viewings.

Call their bluff and put it straight back on the market. 3rd time lucky. Good luck OP.

user1484830599 · 22/08/2018 21:14

I geninely believe the only way to deal with morons like this is to not give them an inch. Whack it back on the market, and refuse point blank to deal with them.

I had a builder try and buy an old house of mine at a knock down price. A week before exchange he tried to drop the price a further 10k. I told him not a chance and put it back on the market there and then, with a small price drop to increase interest. It sold in 2 days, by which time he was begging to buy it at his original asking price. I couldn't deal with him again, I would have been on tenterhooks waiting for him to pull his next stunt and I really believe this is the only way to get through to people like this. Good luck with it O/P. Can you drop it a few K to spark a bit of interest?

N0bodysM0t · 22/08/2018 21:19

oh boy. I would add two months mortgage payments on to the price of the house and tell the EA to explain the reason for the price increase. They are unlikely to back out over two months' mortgage repayments (approx_

PippaPenny · 22/08/2018 21:20

Buying and selling houses is alway fraught. It has just cost me £2,750 not to buy the house I had offered on (structural survey/engineers reports) because the owner hadn't been truthful.

I know you may have further costs if your house doesn't sell quickly but at the minute, given the huge expense in house transaction, £90 is nothing.

OlennasWimple · 22/08/2018 21:23

It's a bloody miracle that anyone manages to buy and sell a house in England, it's such as stupid system

londonrach · 22/08/2018 21:24

Tbh its kinda how it goes. Weve lost £6,000 in total over three sellers pulling out at last minute. No way should you move out before exchange. Put back on market. Talk to new build builders asap. Good luck x

TomHardysNextWife · 22/08/2018 21:30

OP I'm not sure you've been very sensible leaving the house empty. It's far harder to make an empty house look attractive to potential buyers. It could take months to sell.................... Hmm

beanbag19 · 22/08/2018 21:31

@TomHardysNextWife well yes I appreciate that now but we moved out in good faith!!

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ReservoirDogs · 22/08/2018 21:33

Seriously though in England never do anything until exchange!

Bezm · 22/08/2018 21:34

Why don't you just move back in?

beanbag19 · 22/08/2018 21:36

@Bezm because we've just paid a fortune to move all of our stuff in to storage!

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Mingmoo · 22/08/2018 21:38

It's not the end of the world - you still have a house to sell, and you can make it look nice! You can even hire furniture if you want to stage it for viewings (might be a good investment if you are competing with another house). You are in a much better position moving to a new build than if you had vendors in a chain who were going to be upset. Builders are generally very pragmatic.Try to calm down and forget about the old buyers - they're not worth your energy. Look at your house and think about how to make it look appealing. The owners of the house down the road has looked at yours and decided theirs isn't as nice so they can't ask for ask much. That should give you some confidence!

BritInUS1 · 22/08/2018 21:39

Nothing is confirmed until exchange so you should have waited until after that to move, etc

beanbag19 · 22/08/2018 21:42

Well thanks @BritInUS1. But would that have made my buyers any less of a pair of arseholes? We'd be in the same situation in terms of possibly losing our new house.

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Bullnoway · 22/08/2018 21:43

Personally, if I was going to lose the new build anyway, I'd keep going til exchange, keep the pleasure on, and then be "uncontactable" for a few days. But I'm a ***

seastargirl · 22/08/2018 21:46

Your buyers are arses and sorry to add to the stress, but just in case you've not thought about it, make sure you advise your insurers you've moved out as it'll invalidate your insurance if you don't.

Cel982 · 22/08/2018 21:48

Having spent the last few months viewing houses, I'd consider the house being empty a positive selling point; to us it immediately signalled "not in a chain, sale less likely to be dragged out/fall through".

FlowersAndHerts · 22/08/2018 21:52

It's far harder to make an empty house look attractive to potential buyers.
I don't think that's necessarily the case, as long as it's clean, in good order and doesn't smell damp. If anything, it makes the place look bigger. Good luck.

sulflower · 22/08/2018 21:57

The system in the U.K. makes the position difficult for everyone

We have a totally different system in Scotland. You would be liable for costs if you pulled out of a sale at the last minute.

OP I would be furious too, I hope you get something sorted so you can move into your new house.

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