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"There's a pony in there somewhere". Trump con't

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AcrossthePond55 · 16/08/2018 00:12

Title based on what a college professor used to tell us when the going got tough.

"Just remember when you're standing shoulder deep in horse shit, there's a pony in there somewhere. So just keep digging".

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lionheart · 20/08/2018 10:23

Curious to see that this 'association' matters enough for them to fire this guy.

www.rawstory.com/2018/08/trump-speechwriter-fired-outed-appearance-conference-beside-white-nationalist/#.W3nuNLqgyMM.twitter

ohmymimi · 20/08/2018 10:26

'Reliable Sources: Rudy said 'truth isn't truth,' but he got something right'
amp.cnn.com/money/2018/08/19/media/reliable-sources-08-19-18/index.html?__twitter_impression=true

Roussette · 20/08/2018 10:32

'Truth isn't truth' interview got the derision it deserved on Twitter. Guilliano is a deluded idiot. The interviewer actually did collapse into laughter.

Cozie so glad to see you are using the word 'spondulicks... I say spondoolies all the time, the DCs say to me they think I make words up Grin

ohmymimi · 20/08/2018 10:34

Will Mr. Beattie have a $15,000 pm soft landing in Hushland?

ohmymimi · 20/08/2018 10:40

andrew kaczynski
@KFILE
@costareports
has more details on Beattie’s departure. He resisted resigning and was apparently fired. This explains why the WH repeatedly delayed giving me comment
Robert Costa
@costareports
NEWS: WH speechwriter Darren Beattie resisted push for him to resign amid scrutiny of panel alongside white nationalist, per 3 people familiar. WH then fired him. Departure first reported by @KFILE.
(link: www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-speechwriter-fired-amid-scrutiny-of-appearance-with-white-nationalists/2018/08/19/f5051b52-a3eb-11e8-a656-943eefab5daf_story.html washingtonpost.com/politics/trump…
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ohmymimi · 20/08/2018 10:43

Mr. Beattie's tale is everywhere; came at last:
amp.cnn.com/cnn/2018/08/19/politics/darren-beattie-mencken-club/index.html?__twitter_impression=true

PerkingFaintly · 20/08/2018 10:54

Swamps are pretty soft, so...

ohmymimi · 20/08/2018 11:22

Caveat emptor:
pro-trump advocacy groups are starting to complain
Rick Wilson
@TheRickWilson
It's not a campaign. It's a continuing criminal enterprise
Jim Roberts
@nycjim
Donors to conservative pro-Trump advocacy groups are starting to complain that their cash is funding “soft-landing” jobs for ex-Trump aides who’ve been dumped from the White House. link: politi.co/2MqHCS7 politi.co/2MqHCS7

ohmymimi · 20/08/2018 11:24

came fame at last!

ohmymimi · 20/08/2018 11:34

Stinky Zinky:
theintercept.com/2018/08/18/ryan-zinke-wildfires-timber-industry/

PerkingFaintly · 20/08/2018 11:59

Here's the direct link to the CNN interview with retired Lt Col Ralph Peters, who resigned as a military analyst for Fox News, that Rousette's link is about.

Ralph Peters: 'Fox isn't immoral, it's amoral'
edition.cnn.com/videos/tv/2018/08/19/ralph-peters-fox-isnt-immoral-its-amoral-rs.cnn

Various quotes from it:

He is not interested in understanding our government. He believes the Constitution is a menu from which he can choose only the most delectable items.

The evil twin of that, I believe as a former Russia analyst for most of my career… I’m convinced that the president of the United States is enthralled to Vladimir Putin. There’s no other way to explain his behavior. And he perfectly fits the profile of the kind of people the Russians target
[...]
This is a distinctly un-American president who doesn’t seem to like America very much. I could never have foreseen this Orwellian situation.
[...]
He’s done what autocrats and charlatans and false messiahs throughout history have done. He’s told his core supporters, you are not to blame. You’re not to blame for the mistakes you made, you’re not to blame for your failures. It’s them. It’s the minorities, it’s the immigrants, it’s fake news, it’s the deep state[…]
Stelter: It’s a really compelling story. How do you counter that story, Ralph?
Peters: Good men and women have to fight for this country. In terms of being good citizens, in terms of voting and giving informed votes. […] Most Americans are somewhere in the centre. Left of centre, right of centre, they’re reasonable people. But they’re being drowned out.

lionheart · 20/08/2018 12:52

Statement From Former National Security Officials
Regarding the Removal of Security Clearances

drive.google.com/file/d/1wb1OWfYIL-FRIpLkU4uwYI1shL6HNnbD/view

ohmymimi · 20/08/2018 13:47

'Liberals crushed in SCOTUS spending war.
Conservatives are vastly outspending liberals and targeting vulnerable senators in the fight to confirm Brett Kavanaugh.'
www.politico.com/story/2018/08/20/scotus-spending-fight-kavanaugh-liberals-784530

ohmymimi · 20/08/2018 14:25

I had no idea that this case would excite these emotions

Apparently, before this trial the judge lived under a rock. Unbelievable this jury has not been sequestered. And so, in that decision, Ellis has not just put his finger on the scale, he has sat on it with all his weight. Whilst I would be surprised if Manafort gets off, I don't discount it. But, it could easily be a hung jury, and that would come down more to Ellis' handling of the case, than the prosecution not having met the burden of proof of M's guilt. But that is just imho.

'Jurors weighing the evidence against Manafort have long known that they’re assigned to a high-profile case; the packed courtroom, reporters dashing out to file stories and fleet of satellite trucks deployed around the Alexandria, Virginia, courthouse leave little doubt of that.'

' ..... Adding to the tension surrounding the trial, Ellis said Friday he was aware of unspecified “threats” related to the case, and he said jurors would likely be “scared” and “afraid” if their identities became public. Even if jurors didn’t hear directly about his comments on that front, their friends and family members surely have.

“I had no idea that this case would excite these emotions, I will tell you frankly,” the judge said, adding that he travels to a hotel each night in the company of federal marshals.'

www.politico.com/story/2018/08/20/manafort-trial-jury-trump-justice-788491

However:
www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/8/19/17752532/paul-manafort-jury-decision-judge-ellis

ohmymimi · 20/08/2018 15:17

Nick Laughlin
@nickdlaughlin
There’s also this report from
@cameron_easley

ohmymimi · 20/08/2018 15:33

'President Trump’s staff has learned a hard lesson. If the president says something in private, no matter how geopolitically fraught, it's only a matter of time before he blurts it out in public.'
www.axios.com/donald-trump-blurting-public-private-statements-russia-a7e65340-df76-42d4-ba08-0d13d988b0f0.html?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=twsocialshare&utm_campaign=organic