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"There's a pony in there somewhere". Trump con't

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AcrossthePond55 · 16/08/2018 00:12

Title based on what a college professor used to tell us when the going got tough.

"Just remember when you're standing shoulder deep in horse shit, there's a pony in there somewhere. So just keep digging".

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Anniegetyourgun · 19/08/2018 16:09

So when someone like Giuliani stands up in court and says (with hand on religious text of choice) "... the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth", it doesn't actually mean anything at all? What fun.

Btw wtf is a "councel"?

PerkingFaintly · 19/08/2018 16:09

Another article about McGahn:

'The Quiet Man': The Powerful Conservative White House Lawyer In The Middle Of It All
<a class="break-all" href="https://choice.npr.org/index.html?origin=www.npr.org/2017/06/06/531337749/the-quiet-man-the-powerful-conservative-white-house-lawyer-in-the-middle-of-it-a" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">choice.npr.org/index.html?origin=www.npr.org/2017/06/06/531337749/the-quiet-man-the-powerful-conservative-white-house-lawyer-in-the-middle-of-it-a

And a pre-election article:

THE OTHER DONALD BEHIND DONALD TRUMP
www.newsweek.com/other-donald-behind-donald-trump-457514
Trump has repeatedly railed against what he considers the poison of special-interest money in politics, while McGahn is best known for helping special interests play politics with as few restrictions as possible.

Perhaps it’s a marriage of convenience between a brash billionaire and one of the savviest campaign lawyers his money can buy.
[...]
During McGahn’s tenure at the FEC, he was a frequent target for watchdog groups who said he was crippling the FEC’s ability to enforce the law and destroying morale among the agency’s staff through his reluctance to proceed with enforcement cases. Noble once described him as a commissioner who “did his best to make the FEC dysfunctional.”

cozietoesie · 19/08/2018 16:10

Across

From your perspective, are people noticing all of this or are they 'trying to get on with their lives' ( as best they can.) Any thoughts on November?

Gumpendorf · 19/08/2018 16:19

GIULIANI: "No, it isn’t truth. Truth isn’t truth

I'm starting to feel well and truly gaslighted now. It's Pizzagate all over again. And I'm well informed obsessed about the facts and events. So it's understandable that the polls are starting to doubt the Mueller inquiry. God help a jury.

I haven't looked but didn't the letter Trump's lawyers send at the start of the year make excuses for explain why Trump had the conversation with Comey? You know, that conversation that apparently didn't take place now they have discredited all the witnesses 🤯

ohmymimi · 19/08/2018 16:38

Thread from Mariotti on McGhan:
Renato Mariotti
@renato_mariotti
THREAD: What does news that White House Counsel Don McGahn is “cooperating” with Mueller tell us about Mueller’s investigation?
mobile.twitter.com/renato_mariotti/status/1030939908700073984

lionheart · 19/08/2018 16:45

I don't know about McGhan. Remember when he came back to the second meeting with Sally Yates and said:

'What does it matter if one WH employee (Flynn) lies to another (Pence et al)?'

Very odd.

PerkingFaintly · 19/08/2018 16:46

Yeah, that made quite an impression on me too, lionheart.

lionheart · 19/08/2018 16:53

Plus, nobody should mess with Sally Q. Smile

PerkingFaintly · 19/08/2018 16:57

So true, lionheart, so true. Grin

lionheart · 19/08/2018 17:05
Smile
Gumpendorf · 19/08/2018 17:09

More from Giuliani redefinition of truth. Don Jnr didn't know the June 16 meeting was with Russians. Fox News are helpfully backing that up.

Fox put an ellipses where the actual email actually said the assistance was "part of Russia and its government’s support for Mr. Trump" 🙃^ https://twitter.com/RobertMaguiree^/status/884871210483539968/photo/1/1__
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https://twitter.com/RobertMaguiree_/status/884871210483539968

"There's a pony in there somewhere". Trump con't
"There's a pony in there somewhere". Trump con't
lionheart · 19/08/2018 17:21

I find the manic tweets and desperate spin quite reassuring in a peculiar way. They are afraid.

Talking of Georgia:

slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/08/georgia-voter-suppression-brian-kemps-bid-for-governor-depends-on-erasing-the-black-vote-its-working.html

cozietoesie · 19/08/2018 17:26

They are afraid. Smile

lionheart · 19/08/2018 17:44

Yep. Grin

They should be.

cozietoesie · 19/08/2018 19:01

.... then continued cooperating out of a fear that Trump might be setting him up to take the fall....

ohmymimi · 19/08/2018 20:08

Burke, might just have chosen 'fulsomely', in that lawyerly way, with a care to its double meaning (for Oafsplaining). Combining fulsome with honest suggests (to me) expansive abundance of detail. How could McGhan have been honest if his testimony had been 'complimentary or flattering to an excessive degree'?

Bill Kristol
@BillKristol
A friend suggests I understood Bill Burck too literally because I did not read him literally enough. What if he knew what he was doing when he seemed to mis-use the word "fulsomely?" What if this account of McGahn's testimony is "excessively complimentary or flattering" to Trump?
mobile.twitter.com/BillKristol/status/1031187305640480768

lionheart · 19/08/2018 20:17

'Fulsome' was one of the words that most people looked up just after the Yates testimony. Smile

cozietoesie · 19/08/2018 20:28

I'm saddened that more people didn't know its meaning and potential use. Smile

Gumpendorf · 19/08/2018 20:32

GrinGrin

PANIC? Trump's boosters say Mueller is "panicking." But they're the ones acting, well, panicked... https://twitter.com/brianstelter/status/1031221264524881921/video/1

https://twitter.com/brianstelter/status/1031221264524881921

lionheart · 19/08/2018 20:40

Have to hear it spoken with a Southern accent for the most impact maybe. Wink

Gumpendorf · 19/08/2018 20:44

I'm curious as to who leaked the McGahn info and why.

cozietoesie · 19/08/2018 20:57

Gosh, lion.Grin