To be disappointed by mumsnetters

[CaptainBirdseye]

ok it's late on Sunday not the best time to get a debate goinging, however my post about the BNP dropped like a stone off active cons with no reply. Are people so caught up in their narrow worlds that racism can slip through so easily unnoticed?
I thought that although the march wasn't relevant to many that the news story might get some debate going

www.gazetteandherald.co.uk/news/corshamheadlines/display.var.1438331.0.antibnp_protesters_organise_rally.php

I will be going to this demo against the BNP I feel they should be opposed at every stage. Thought I'd post on here incase any local MN wanted to come too.
The message board for this local rag seems to have draw alot of BNP support so if you want to balance the arguement please post your feelings

I read your previous thread but didn't have anything to add

I don't feel I have much to discuss about the BNP at this particular moment, I know how revolting they are and have protested against their activities before. I won't be going on this march.

it isn't that I don't care but I had no particular comment to make

people do have a lot of things going on in their lives and because their interests may not be the same as yours at any particular moment doesn't mean that they have "narrow worlds"

Generally if you have no responses to a thread the technique is to bump it a few times as different times of day, to see if you have any more luck.

yes i am caught up in my own narrow world.

I am with misdee on this, sorry.

Ah, well, I did see your post and hovered but wasnt sure what I might open and didnt want to be shouted down on my opinions on the subject. I have been called racist before now, you see!

well, i don;t live any where near wiltshire, so cannot really help

if it was a local demo, then yes, i';d go

and i think a reason there is no debate is

1. it is half term or back to shcool tomorrow, so a lot of mumsnetters will be engaged with preparing for hols or back to school

2. we all know the BNP and what they stand for is absolutely morally and ethically and politically wrong, so what is there to debate

3. it is a sunday night, often quiet. as franny says, better to bump a few times before starting to criticise

You will find the same lead balloon on threads concerning step parenting when they are going through problems. What happens is all the BM get on the threads shouting down the steps and nothing is resolved.

We have all become anon. (cant spell it) P.C on these subjects.

I like to think I'm not caught up in my own narrow world and have protested against the BNP before, but I do find what I read on MN depends on the headline, the thread title. People spend their lives writing newspaper headlines - and some thread titles just fall off active convos. Sorry I didn't read yours, but like Franny says, sometimes I just don't have anything to add.

so, yes, you are being unreasonable ! sorry !

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agree with lulumama!

Captain - you can't commence insulting other people, as Franny points out, and hope that becomes an invitation to a change of mind and then an investment of time and money.

I didn't see your thread, would have posted something supportive no doubt (am a former "Rock Against Racism"-er....) and have held LOTS of anti-racist positions in various orgs. over the years..and suffered for it...I don't need to be told I am in my "narrow world" by someone I have never met.

Take it easy when posting - and avoid the pointy-fingerness please.

I am sorry I do not mean to take it out on munsnetters, I posted it I guess because I had no one to talk to about it.
but I am so angry on many levels, both with the people of Rudloe for allowing it to happen, the local politics /politians for allowing a BNP candidate to stand unapposed and mostly that the BNP still exist in this so called enlightened age.
My second post was looking for an argument rather than debate.
Frannyandzooey you have put it very well 'people do have a lot of things going on in their lives and because their interests may not be the same as yours at any particular moment doesn't mean that they have "narrow worlds" ' and I couldn't agree more but I am so angry

This reminds me of a thread southeastastra started a while back about honour killings - she also got fed up because not many people responded (initially, although it did become quite sizeable after a while). I would guess that most people on MN think that the BNP is deeply unpleasant, so there isn't much of a debate to be had (as with honour killings: who's going to say that they are in favour?) Good for you for going on the protest, if you feel strongly about it.

My own feeling about the BNP is that it's probably cock-a-hoop at the amount of attention it gets for piddling achievements like seats on councils. The Green Party would walk over coals to have an equivalent amount of publicity for every council seat it won - it would never be off the evening news. We live (broadly speaking) in a democratic country, and the BNP is not a proscribed organisation. So long as it is not behaving illegally (ie, by encouraging violence), I think that the best approach is to treat it as the insignificant minority party that it is. Drawing up one's skirts in horror at the bare mention of the BNP makes it seem much more powerful than it actually is, which in turn makes crazy racists even more likely to vote for it.

lol at the pointy fingerness

I honestly don't come on MN to get political - dull and narrow-minded it might be but I want to talk about parenting and flapjacks and fruitshoots. Sorry to disappoint.

no worries captain birseye...that rush of anger and the feeling of having to do something , can make you say / post something you wouldnlt have done usually

i disgaree with the BNP but it is the governments fault that they are rising in numbers.

the apparant lax immigration control has forced perfectly reasonable people to feel like minorities in their own communities. they are nto racist but they do get angry that their own lives are mad less comfortable to pave teh way for illegal entrants to the country, their children cannot get social housing because the homes are offered to refugee's (illegal or otherwise) their children cannot have Nativity plays because it might upset the left wingers who claim it may upset the minorities (despite the minorities stating over and over again that they are not at all bothered by the christian faith being taught in schools.

they may not be thinking straight but when you are angry about issues like these and then someone pipes up saying "we will change it" they say great where do i sign.

I dont think there is a rise in racism, but a rise in anger at the way our country is being lead.
sadlt there are a great number of people less intelectually equiped who cannot see through the BNp and its propoganda

are you new here. This seems to be your 2nd thread the first (duplicated) about the same subject.

Are you doing the rounds of forum to drum up support?

I also have a narrow world oop north

quick hijack, Has anyone come across golly wogs lately?

I have been in two shops in the last week and they have heaps of them. I thought they were banned!

I'm in my own narrow world too.

I have no time for the BNP, but I do wish politicians and would-be politicians would get off their arses and think about why the electorate are voting the BNP in, and do something about that, rather than just telling people not to vote BNP.

hmm there was an item on mathew wright last week - the what's in the papers section. some bloke got done for having one on the front of his motorbike (or car, or lorry or ....)

the guy claimed his seat 'uncontested'

sounds like a lot of apathy down there

I personally love golly wogs as they bring back such lovely memories as a child. Beats me where it all went silly. I was desperate to buy one but felt that it would be inappropriate given its new status, how bloody sad is that?