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DD wants bf to stay over

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Anonymousmumforlyfe · 14/08/2018 01:36

DD is 15 and wants bf to stay over she’s trying 16 soon and he is 16 next month. Should I let them stay in seperate rooms? Thoughts?

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SnowyAlps · 14/08/2018 10:55

It’s what you feel comfortable with. Ds18, has been with his gf for 4 years, they are the same age. She sleeps at ours and his dads since they were both 16. They share a bed.

They started to talk about having sex just after they turned 16. He with me, her with her mum. We talked about consent, pressure, contraception, emergency contraception as well as handling the emotional side of it. Another thing I talked a lot about was pornography. Explaining how what you can see online, isn’t how sex is in real life. I’d found a documentary online about the making of a porn film, the tricke etc they use, for example squirting the actors with water to make it look like they are sweating (the rest is not tame enough to write!). But for me it was important that my ds understood that there’s a difference between a movie and reality. That not every women goes around with a hairless lady garden, for example, because it itches and gives us ingrown hairs! Lol. And the important one, was about never pressurising a girl into anything, for example anal sex. Just because it’s in a film......

Ds told me the day after they had sex for the first time. She had already started the pill at this point and he also used (still do actually) condoms as well. The reason for this being that me and his dad were 18 when we conceived. Although we both still managed to go to university a few months after his birth, get our degrees and get good jobs- it was hard! I wouldn’t change it for the world, but I don’t want it for my dc. But he can see how hard it was, and they are both academic kids, off to university to undertake degrees, that is only the start of their training, that will lead to their careers.

So now there’s only two things I do. Firstly I’ve drilled it into both of them, that should the condom split and/or she misses a pill, or has been unwell, that they let me know ASAP and we can get to the family planning clinic (before anyone says anything, where we live the clinic is once a week, so have to travel between 9-22 miles for another one, that doesn’t have a direct public transport link). The second thing is asking if ds needs condoms when I do the food shop!

But apart from that I stay out of things, unless they ask me a question. I feel like I’ve done everything I can, and they both know they can (and they do) ask me anything that is concerning them, and i’ll do my best to help them them out. But they are 18 now, so their sex life is none of my business! But I’m glad I took the approach I did, it was right for me, it was right for ds, and it was right for his gf and her mum. (Exdp was just relived I covered itHmm). HOWEVER, that doesn’t mean it’s the right approach for everyone else. Some will read this and think I’m mad, irresponsible etc🤷🏻‍♀️

Sorry that was so long!

Anonymousmumforlyfe · 14/08/2018 10:56

Her father is super close with her and they talk about most things except boys because she gets a bit embarrassed. I wasn’t doing that kind of stuff when I was her age however I’m foreign here and her father (British) said that he was having sex and smoking and a lot worse things compared to her and he thinks I should sit down and talk to her. I’m just worried that she won’t eant to talk and she will run off. She hasn’t told me she’s sexually active but I’m sure she is it’s a mother’s gut feeling

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Anonymousmumforlyfe · 14/08/2018 10:59

It’s great seeing so many positive suggestions! I think I really need to talk to her and not be condoning of the whole situation. As I’ve said before i trust she made the right decisions and if she’s ready she’s ready so I’m going to support her and help out where I can rather than let her have sex in secret or in places out of my control completely. Still teetering on this whole pill vs implant thing

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SnowyAlps · 14/08/2018 12:48

As I said I don’t have a girl only boys, and I’ve only taken the pill or had a coils. But I know a few women who have had issues with the implant because of the hormones it realises. Likewise I know those who think it’s brilliant. What about trying her on the pill to see how her body manages the hormones. If she has no problems then consider the implant. At least on the pill she can stop taking it immediately. With the implant it’s more difficult. Also if you read the contraception page on here, a few womn have had problems with it, but keep getting told to wait another 3-6 months for things to settle down. At her age with exams etc, 3-6 months of feeling unwell is not good. But fingers crossed whatever you decide together will work well for her!

Anonymousmumforlyfe · 14/08/2018 13:16

SnowyAlps

Thank you very much has been very helpful indeed just talked to her and she was very open and I’m glad I decide to talk to her. I’m going to put her on the pill because all thoughts she’s using condoms, that isn’t enough protection in my opinion. This defiantly has helped our relationship and hopefully it will continue to grow stronger

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LoveInTokyo · 14/08/2018 13:21

I would recommend the implant as there is no margin for human error. She'll never experience that panicky feeling you get from a missed pill (or worse, an accidental pregnancy). Some GPs make you go on the pill for a few months before they'll put you on the implant though. Some people do experience side effects from the implant but I think there's a risk of that with any form of hormonal contraception. And you can have the implant removed quickly if she doesn't get on with it - you might just have to put pressure on the GP if they want her to keep it in for a while to see if things settle down. For what it's worth I would recommend giving it a good go, because if the implant works for you it really is the most stress-free form of contraception you could imagine.

You should also talk to her about using condoms to protect against STDs, about the importance of consent and not being pressured into doing anything she is uncomfortable with, and about how porn is not like real life.

She is going to have sex anyway (probably already is), so there is nothing to be gained from shying away from the subject IMO. You're better off confronting it head on in a practical, non-judgemental way and teaching her to have safe and happy sex, if and when she wants to.

Stephisaur · 14/08/2018 13:22

I've been with DH since I was 16, and he stayed over from about 6 months into the relationship.

He stayed in the spare room, and I was to sleep in my bedroom across the landing.

I snuck into the spare room every single time he stayed over (my Mum still has no idea) and would sneak back to my room at around 3am.

FWIW I was on the pill, but we still used condoms at that point. My parents never asked his if it was ok, he just sort of told them he'd be at mine if there were any problems.

multiplemum3 · 14/08/2018 13:26

Not much to add but my mum was super strict and I still found ways around it. You sound awesome

DerelictWreck · 14/08/2018 13:40

Not sure why you need to discuss consent because bf Sounds a good egg

Because he is going to turn 16 first so they both need to be aware of the ramifications of that

Anonymousmumforlyfe · 14/08/2018 13:45

I’ve talked to her about consent and although I fully trust her bf and as I have said he is very mature and intelligent young man I’m not sure wether I should sit down with them both. I think that may be his parents responsibility however I may talk to them if both his mum and me can talk to both of them together. I want to make sure both families are on the same page

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stevie69 · 14/08/2018 13:49

Should I be worried about what they are getting up to?

I would imagine that parents live in a permanent state of worrying about what their children are up to, once they're old enough to go out unaccompanied Blush

But ... no: you shouldn't need to worry Smile

apriljune12 · 14/08/2018 13:56

My dds asked me to go with them to access contraception at 15. We did. Implant didn’t suit one dd she bled. She found a pill to suit her but it took a while. Other dd has the implant and both have condoms.

Past 15 we allowed boy friends to stop over downstairs but we did hear a few creaks Grin

We thought it was more important to make sure they were safe secure and protected. And fully open dialogue.

It’s a tricky time op. Wink

InsuranceGirl · 14/08/2018 14:07

I started dating my boyfriend at 16, our parents both let us stop over at the others homes occasionally (never during term time and not every weekend) but never in the same room, even when we moved away to university and came back during the holidays.

Our parents were well aware we slept in the same bed when we visited each other at university, went on holiday, or booked a hotel in our home town, but they just didn’t want it in the house.

My Mum was great talking to me about it and why she didn’t want us to share a room until then and I respected her being so approachable and also explaining why she didn’t want us sharing a room.

I knew I could go to her for anything, I went to her when we had a burst condom (she calmed me down and took me to the pharmacy), she came to appointments with me about going on the pill, and found out where me and my boyfriend could get free condoms from when we were that age.

Anonymousmumforlyfe · 14/08/2018 15:13

Thank you everyone for great advice and personal experiences has rlly helped easy my mind. Should I allow DD’s bf to come over when I’m not home?

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EthelThePiratesDaughter · 14/08/2018 15:24

How will you know if he does anyway?

ali0210 · 14/08/2018 15:30

I had my first real boyfriend when I was 15/16. We were frequently allowed to stay at each other's houses in separate rooms. We went to the same school but lived quite a bit apart. We respected the rules of each house, and even though we were already 'fooling around' never done it at either household as we felt that would have been betraying the trust. I think so long as both sets of parents are on board, and that both kids agree to the rules, it shouldn't be a problem. They will appreciate the freedom and are more likely to be respectful as they will see that both sets of parents trust them and are willing to let them spend more time with each other.

InsuranceGirl · 14/08/2018 15:49

Thank you everyone for great advice and personal experiences has rlly helped easy my mind. Should I allow DD’s bf to come over when I’m not home?

It’s your choice, my parents allowed my BF to, as did his parents, but the other set of parents had to know if it was overnight, during the day it was no problem.

They all knew we’d share the same room if it was overnight but it was a year after we’d been dating before they left us alone overnight.

The main thing is it depends on what you and his parents agree on, no one else can decide for you.

runningkeenster · 14/08/2018 16:12

I think you sound really sensible. Have open discussions with her and banning it from happening never ends well (although the parents who ban it genuinely believe their DCs accept that and don't do anything

well it worked with me. I wasn't given the opportunity, so it didn't happen until I went away to uni. Remember that not all girls in particular want it and parents being obstructive gives them an excuse not to have to do it.

Just because it's legal to have sex at 16 doesn't mean it's something that should be encouraged or made easy.

Anonymousmumforlyfe · 14/08/2018 16:25

To be completely honest I had a very open conversation with her and she was very honest with me and I think the fact she was open and honest with me makes me think she’s mature and very responsible so I am planning on letting him stay over. Need to sort out the birth control out tho because at 15 I don’t think condoms are enough

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Catrina1234 · 14/08/2018 16:53

Some really good posts here covering most things but I really think you should talk to the boy's mother - she has a perfect right to be involved. My DGD turned 18 in April and has her first boyfriend - a year younger . He wanted to stay over after her 18th boyfriend (there a lot of kids in sleeping bags in various parts of the house. BF was in a sleeping bag on the sofa and DGD shared her bed with her 2 best friends (girls) BUT I thought what was interesting BF's mother agreed to him staying over so long as there was no hanky panky.

Lots of people don't seem to realise that kids can be sexually intimate even if they are not stopping over. In my day it would be unheard of so I think it's better that there are fewer restrictions these days.

Booboostwo · 14/08/2018 17:26

I had sex with DH when we were 15 and stayed overnight in the same bedroom at both our parents’s houses.

Teenagers who want to have sex will find a way to do it, in a car, in a toilet, in a friend’s house. The advantage of having sex in their own home is that they should feel safer and more empowered to make decisions involving consent and contraception.

ZanyMobster · 14/08/2018 20:40

Runningkeenster - if you had wanted to, your parents banning you would have made no difference. A 15/16 yo would have found a way somehow.

I don't think anyone on here has suggested it should be encouraged but if teens are going to have sex they should be equipped with the correct information (and protection of course), having open lines of communication with parents will help this of course.

Goth237 · 14/08/2018 22:03

@HollyWoods8224 so despite the fact that it's illegal to have sex under the age of 16- being a child that can't legally consent- she was OK with it? Good to know Hmm

Goth237 · 14/08/2018 22:06

What is wrong with kids these days?! I didn't have sex until I was 16 and I wasn't even thinking about it before then. I wasn't even thinking about it at 16, it's just that he was 19 and I guess he was. And it hurt and I hated it. It's really sad to me that CHILDREN are younger and younger when they have sex and no-one seems to have any control over them anymore/or they don't care about it...

Booboostwo · 14/08/2018 23:08

Goth37 there is nothing wrong with kids today or with older teens who choose to have sex and enjoy the experience. What happened to you was wrong though. You should not have been pressured into having sex and you should not have had an experience that was hateful. There is no comparison between your experience though and two 15yos who choose to have sex and enjoy themselves.