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To think "Reap what you sow".....

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SlartiAardvark · 02/08/2018 09:42

So the wankers that thought it'd be fun to flour & egg a vulnerable lady & pose next to her for a photograph are surprised that the rest of the country thinks they're cunts.

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I find it quite telling that all one of the mothers seems to be concerned about is her "Preshuzzes Birfday Party".

I think it'll do them good to look over their shoulders for a while - hopefully the justice system will give them a poke too....

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YeTalkShiteHen · 02/08/2018 18:32

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BasicUsername · 02/08/2018 18:34

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Leesa65 · 02/08/2018 20:40

Horrible little fuckers and their equally horrible fucking parents

However, saying that, good on the parent who frogmarched his little shit to the police . The one wittering on about a party .. Jesus H Christ woman .

Threats, well that is a step too far really, but yea, let them look over their shoulders for at least the rest of summer.

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SlartiAardvark · 03/08/2018 08:46

Well you’re not as fucking decent as you think you are if you think mob justice is the solution to mob violence. Only someone profoundly stupid would think that was the solution.

See, it's people like you that get more worked up about what people say than what they do that are half the problem. These kids actually did something, but you're getting more worked up about what people are saying.

The "death threats" will have been an online comment along the lines of "they should be strung up", and yes, there will have been threats of violence, mostly by people that are never likely to be in the same city at the same time. I don't think they'll have infringed on any "hooman rites" the pricks may have though...

Also - not many people are going to risk getting into trouble for the sake of slapping a 16 year old twat, but even if they did - it's hardly the end of the world - as per the title - "Reap what you Sow".....

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YeTalkShiteHen · 03/08/2018 08:56

See, it's people like you that get more worked up about what people say than what they do that are half the problem. These kids actually did something, but you're getting more worked up about what people are saying

Are you serious? I know they did something truly awful, morally reprehensible and should be charged and convicted in a court of law and have strong consequences.

But because I disagree with the frankly ludicrous and thuggish mob culture that is all too prevalent (and comes from the same place as the actions of the nasty little thugs who attacked this vulnerable woman) I’m the problem?

I’m afraid you can jog the fuck on with that one OP, only one of us is frothing at the mouth advocating violence in response to (and apparently condemning) violence!

You can’t condemn aggression, thuggishness and attacks on strangers while simultaneously behaving in the same way. Unless you are profoundly stupid that is.

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SlartiAardvark · 03/08/2018 09:26

You can’t condemn aggression, thuggishness and attacks on strangers while simultaneously behaving in the same way.

I absolutely can condemn physical violence without condemning verbal violence. The 2 are different beasts.

Punching someone in the face is different to saying you want to punch someone in the face. You'd have to be fucking stupid to think otherwise. Wink

And I call "Bingo" BTW, I knew it wasn't long before someone dragged "frothing" out of the PA Insults bag....

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SilageMarner · 03/08/2018 09:27

It would breach their human rights though. Despite the fact that they gave not a single fuck about that poor woman’s rights.

And that is how it has to be - society has to be more civilised than the little shits (and worse). Otherwise you’re on a slippery slope.

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MissusGeneHunt · 03/08/2018 09:38

I would weep buckets and be so ashamed if this was my son involved. I find this whole thing utterly despicable, and I am incredulous as to the comments about his birthday party. They may well have been taken from a load of other comments, but it's still been said, and is felt justified by this woman who is a 'parent'. Not only should strict and fitting justice be served on those hooligans, but also on the parent(s). Yes, the father who frog marched his son to the police was absolutely right to do so, but it still happened and I wouldn't be surprised if he (the father) would have volunteered for additional 'help' (by that I mean some form of parenting of teens classes - mandatory ones - or support network).

I'm really not a liberal when it comes to violence against the person, but in addition to sanctions on the kids, the parents need help, frankly, even if it's general support.

Oh yeah, where's that coming from - Social Services and policing is fucked, budget wise.

Taps head and realises why the problems exist.....

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TheStoic · 03/08/2018 09:49

I’ve just realised it’s the school holidays and I’ve just spent the last day trying to reason with a teenager. Silly me.

Oh dear. I bet that cuts like a knife, OP.

To be honest, I think mob justice is the only way these boys will learn what they did was unacceptable. They certainly weren’t getting that message from their friends or family.

icelollycraving · 03/08/2018 10:10

They weren’t worried about her safety, dignity or vulnerability. In fact it made her a target to these stupid scummy little shits.
If ds did this, there would be no fucking party, I certainly wouldn’t be bleating about it. It doesn’t matter if she spoke for an hour about how ashamed she is, she is celebrating his birthday. Nice family punishment. Twats.
They aren’t sorry they did it. They are sorry they got found out.
They deserve a severe punishment but what realistically will it be?

YeTalkShiteHen · 03/08/2018 10:22

The police could charge them with a disability related hate crime since they attacked her solely because of her vulnerability, I hope that’s the route they take and that they do face proper and serious consequences for their abhorrent actions.

YouTheCat · 03/08/2018 10:24

Sometimes there need to be consequences to people like these young men, in wider society. They need to feel a bit scared and vulnerable. They won't get sent to prison. The most that will happen will be a slap on the wrist.

If they have to think about what they're doing and not have the freedom to go where they want in case they get bother then maybe they'll have a little empathy for the people whose lives they have affected in future.

They only person who should be getting any protection and sympathy is the victim.

BasicUsername · 03/08/2018 11:16

I’ve just realised it’s the school holidays and I’ve just spent the last day trying to reason with a teenager. Silly me.

This is pretty much the stock response on MN -you don't agree with someone's opinion, so you attempt to infantilise them. Silly you, indeed.

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AnyaMumsnet · 03/08/2018 11:55

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SlartiAardvark · 03/08/2018 11:58

Oh dear. I bet that cuts like a knife, OP.

weeps into copy of Smash Hits....

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Samcro · 03/08/2018 12:02

sadly I doubt much will happen to these scum.
they will probably end up with a non custodial sentence.
appalling, i have no sympathy with them or their families.
the idea that someone could do that is so disgusting. I hope they ere living in fear.

beyondthesky · 03/08/2018 12:03

weeps into copy of Smash Hits....

Oh dear SlartiAardvark I fear you've really shown your age now Grin

YeTalkShiteHen · 03/08/2018 12:44

Actually I genuinely thought OP was a teenager, so if it quacks like a duck.....

But I’m clearly in the minority in thinking that inciting violence is not the right way to prevent violence.

Trying to explain that has obviously got me nowhere so I’ll bow out and leave you all to your violent fantasies.

Just know that if someone does physically attack anyone who has committed a horrid offence, people who actively encourage it online are partly responsible. Whether that bothers you or not is a different story.

But don’t for one second kid on that any of what you’re saying has anything to do with feeling for the woman who was attacked. Because that just isn’t true.

TheStoic · 03/08/2018 13:09

Actually I genuinely thought OP was a teenager, so if it quacks like a duck.....

Then you’re genuinely a bit silly. But that’s ok, we all have strengths and weaknesses.

Hang on to that Smash Hits, OP. It’s probably worth quite a bit now.