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To think "Reap what you sow".....

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SlartiAardvark · 02/08/2018 09:42

So the wankers that thought it'd be fun to flour & egg a vulnerable lady & pose next to her for a photograph are surprised that the rest of the country thinks they're cunts.

Metro News Link

I find it quite telling that all one of the mothers seems to be concerned about is her "Preshuzzes Birfday Party".

I think it'll do them good to look over their shoulders for a while - hopefully the justice system will give them a poke too....

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GorgonLondon · 02/08/2018 11:35

What a load of crap to say that the mother has been selectively quoted. She's whining about his fucking birthday party.

ElBurroSinNombre · 02/08/2018 11:39

Gorgon - did you hear the whole interview? Do you have a transcript?
I'm sure she will have said more than the few sentences quoted - therefore she will have been selectively quoted, like all of the people interviewed for the article. Believe it or not, the media do it all the time because they also have an agenda.
Please don't describe something as crap unless you can back it up with something factual.

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SlartiAardvark · 02/08/2018 11:43

but it must be handled through the proper legal channels

Hmm, the only reason these scum were identified was because of a concerted Facebook hunt for them - the picture was shared everywhere!

I'm afraid that if it had been left to the "proper channels" it'd have been chucked in File 13 & forgotten about...

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SlartiAardvark · 02/08/2018 11:44

I'm sure she will have said more than the few sentences quoted

She may well have done, but the fact that she even brought the party up goes against her.

That and the fact that she's raised such a lovely child of course.....

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Bluelady · 02/08/2018 11:48

She may have been selectively quoted, she still said what's reported about the birthday party. That party which should have been cancelled, it's just rewarding appalling behaviour.

ElBurroSinNombre · 02/08/2018 11:55

I agree with the comments above, it's beyond crass and insensitive, but I'd just love to hear the context of the quote before I judge. It may have been thrown in as an after thought after a condemnation of the behaviour or it may have been the main focus. She is probably also feeling very protective given that her son is a pariah in their community and is now receiving death threats. She may be in shock herself.

GeezAJammyPeece · 02/08/2018 12:04

*ElBurroSinNombre

I should just add that the press quotes are often very selective. The mother will have mentioned the birthday party amongst other things and she may well have condemned the behaviour but its just not reported.*

This was what I hoped was thinking, it's quite easy for a snippet of a long drawn out conversation (possibly where she felt ashamed of her son's actions and under pressure) to completely change the readers perception without the full context.

It's been a few days since I read the initial stories, but remembering thinking at the time that it wasn't necessarily HIS party and possibly a siblings (we don't know if he is one of the 15yos or 17yos do we? Genuine question, it would be great if someone could confirm)
A planned family gettogether to celebrate one kid's birthday has to be cancelled because another one is a fuckwit? Unfair and embarrassing to everyone else.

Totally willing to accept that she may in fact just be a stupid cow, but also think it isn't on to just "blame the parents".
Yes, there are thousands of kids/teens/adults who are dicks because of dickish upbringing by dickish parents, but equally there are as many people who are dicks inspite of lovely parents who tried to instill good morals and ethics.

Pengggwn · 02/08/2018 12:06

She probably said it in an - exceptionally misjudged - attempt to remind people that her son is a person and give second thought to anybody who might try to hurt him off the back of this. The urge to do that is understandable. What isn't understandable is the decision to throw a party for him after this. That decision will have precisely the opposite effect to that she intended, and will make it more likely that people will show up to the venue or their house with a bucket of eggs and a bucket of flour.

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MyDirtyLittleSecret · 02/08/2018 12:25

I find it hard to feel sorry for the mother, selectively quoted perhaps, but the fact she even went there with a mention of the birthday party, shows who she is and possibly why her son is who he is.

BasicUsername · 02/08/2018 12:39

Oh, boo boo, they feel bullied.

As for you hose of you stating that "mob culture" is unacceptable -do you not realise that it is precisely because of the lack of proper punishment that people feel the need to do this?

There are scores of people who get little to no punishment for their crimes against others. A caution or suspended sentence is fuck all use.

YeTalkShiteHen · 02/08/2018 12:47

As for you hose of you stating that "mob culture" is unacceptable -do you not realise that it is precisely because of the lack of proper punishment that people feel the need to do this?

No, people feel the need to do it because it makes them feel morally superior.

Punishments and the justice system are absolutely awful, I’m not debating that for a second. Wholly inadequate and often insulting to the victims of crime.

What is not acceptable is mob culture, because the people baying for blood and making threats or even carrying them out are as bad as the people they claim to be morally superior to.

You can get off your high horse now.

TheFairyCaravan · 02/08/2018 13:13

I hope the threats they’ve received have frightened the living shit out of them. I hope they’re too scared to step foot outside their door alone or even look out of the window. Why should that poor woman be the only one tobe feeling the effects of that attack?

MyDirtyLittleSecret · 02/08/2018 13:18

Quite right, YeTalkShiteHen .

I doubt the death threats are serious though, mostly people mouthing off just hoping to scare them and, tbh, a part of me hopes it has given those boys just a little taste of what it's like to be terrorised by a pack of bullies.

funinthesun18 · 02/08/2018 13:18

Whilst I don’t think death threats are the answer, I’m sick of people sticking up for teenagers when they commit crimes. “Ohhhh they’re just kids” “A 15 year old doesn’t know what they’re doing” “They need rehabalitarion not punishment” etc... Hmm

People who say things like this are part of the problem because little shits know they can get away with stuff.

YeTalkShiteHen · 02/08/2018 13:19

The thing is though, by intimidating and frightening them they become victims. They’re not, the woman they so cruelly attacked and humiliated is, yet she seems to be forgotten.

That’s the worst part, it always becomes about the perpetrators, never their victims.

YeTalkShiteHen · 02/08/2018 13:19

Personally I’d like to see them charged and convicted with a sensible punishment and no inclination to behave in such a dreadful and inhumane way towards anyone again.

kalinkafoxtrot45 · 02/08/2018 13:29

Damn right the party should be cancelled and if anyone’s out of pocket, then the boy whose fault it is can pay them back. Sell his X Box for a start. It’s clear the apple hasn’t fallen far from the tree here.

The only person coming out of this well is the father who marched his son to the police. He’s teaching him a valuable life lesson.

Hopefully that poor woman is getting support and help and will be compensated for her ordeal. While I am against mob justice, I can’t find much sympathy for these horrible boys and they should not get away with it.

Foslady · 02/08/2018 13:42

Who on earth would want their child attending this arseholes birthday party????? Any offspring of mine that thought being friends with this waste of oxygen would have to do one hell of a lot of explaining why...

BasicUsername · 02/08/2018 16:50

No horse to get off of @YeTalkShiteHen

I don't believe I claimed to be in any way morally superior to anybody in my post, so I'm not sure what you are talking about.

I have a different view to you though, I don't believe that the people engaging in "mob mentality" are of the opinion that they are morally superior, I think that they feel protective towards a vulnerable person.

BasicUsername · 02/08/2018 16:53

@YeTalkShiteHen

Oh, actually, it didn't occur to me before you mentioned it, but I suppose I do feel morally superior to those horrible people.

Superior in that I have decent morals and they don't. Guess you were right 👍🏻

YeTalkShiteHen · 02/08/2018 17:24

I have a different view to you though, I don't believe that the people engaging in "mob mentality" are of the opinion that they are morally superior, I think that they feel protective towards a vulnerable person

Bullshit. If they felt protective towards a vulnerable person they’d be making efforts to help her, to ensure she is ok, is recovering, seeing if she needed anything.

Not death threats and mob culture.

You carry on patting yourself on the back for being morally superior and just as bad as the wee thugs who attacked her in the first place but doing nothing to actually help the woman you profess to give a shit about.

BasicUsername · 02/08/2018 18:05

Oh yes, I am just as bad as the thugs who attacked a vulnerable woman. 😂

YeTalkShiteHen · 02/08/2018 18:10

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BasicUsername · 02/08/2018 18:29

There is a big difference between mob mentality and mob violence.