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To be absolutely fuming with her

63 replies

amber900 · 30/07/2018 20:32

I have NC and changed a few details here to avoid being outed

I am engaged andwe started 'going out' around 10 years ago. We were in our teens, and had a rough patch about 5 years ago resulting in a 6 month break up.

During this time, I went on a couple of holidays, and had I guess what you could call a holiday romance with a local on one of them. My sister was with me on these holidays and knew him too. She made fun of me at the time (she didn't think the guy was good looking, and would try and embarrass my taste by even making a few racist comments about him to put my choices down), but we all went on trips together, and they were friends on social media.

I only spent about 2 weeks with this holiday lover, but the young and naive me thought I cared about him. I never thought I was stupid before this, but soon after I got home he told me he was broke, had no money for food, and may have to go back and live with his family in his home village and marry his cousin. After a few days of this, I agreed to send him some money as I believed and felt bad for him. It wasn't a huge amount, but still. He said he would pay it back.

But then a few days later, I realised it was all a lie, and he was staying with another girl, who'd arrived only a couple of days after I'd left. This felt like a huge insult, and I was so angry I'd been duped into giving him money. I asked for the money back, he kept saying he had no money, and so I said he could give it to my friend who was visiting the resort in a few of months.

My friend went and I sent a message to the guy asking back the money, but again he said he couldn't. I realised I was never going to get it, and let it go, while deleting him on everything and getting my sister to do the same.

The whole situation is probably the biggest mistake I've ever made - I felt cheap to do such a thing, and stupid for giving him money. I ended up getting back together with my previous partner, who knows the basics of what happened but not the details (he doesn't want to know).

After a while, I felt at peace and tried to let go, telling myself we all learn from things like this. He's in another country so I can pretend he doesn't even exist.

At least that was the case, until my sister tells me she's reconnected with him on social media. I hit the roof, and asked her not to engage with him as it makes me very uncomfortable, and she has no need to talk to him. She tells me I shouldn't bear grudges and asked me why I even care.

I should also add, in the years since she has told people this story to embarrass me, and made 'jokes' about how she will do a speech about it on my wedding day. I know she's joking, but just the thought of her making jokes about this with other people is horrible.

Bottom line is, I'm fuming, upset and uncomfortable with her talking to him. I told my partner and he doesn't want to talk about it, but I know her reconnecting with this guy could potentially cause problems in my relationship. I feel as my sister she should have more loyalty than to speak to a creep she knew for a couple of weeks 5 years ago. I'm seriously considering cutting contact with her completely.

I hope this was coherent and makes sense. I would appreciate any thoughts, as this isn't something I feel uncomfortable talking about with people IRL.

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CantThinkOfAnotherNameAgain · 30/07/2018 21:21

Well presuming she doesn't even know him anyway and hasn't seen him for years - I think it's weird and disloyal x

cochineal7 · 30/07/2018 21:27

So your sister enjoys making you look ridiculous? She clearly knows you rise to her bait. As others have said: don’t bite! Ignore. Make vague noises of utter disiniterest. She seems horrible and is doing this purely to upset you. Starve her of oxygen.

GreenTulips · 30/07/2018 21:29

It does sound like you 'bite' easily

and made 'jokes' about how she will do a speech about it on my wedding day

Just say 'well you aren't invited'

Or 'oh that old story' 'Yawn'

Ignore her and don't rise to it, brush it off every single time and boring

PolkaHots · 30/07/2018 21:29

Of course you’d bear a grudge against someone who lied and stole from you Confused Indeed it would be odd not to. Who does your sister think she is, Gandhi?

ravenmum · 30/07/2018 21:31

Maybe she made all those negative comments about him at the time because she fancied him herself and was jealous / trying to put you off so that she could have him? And that's why she was so delighted when you split up. Can't think of any other reason why she'd get in touch with him now.

This angle would certainly make sense to all your wedding guests, I'm sure.

ravenmum · 30/07/2018 21:32

I'd definitely share this theory with your sister, in any case.

ElevenTwelths · 30/07/2018 21:33

I agree totally with Knittedfairies. If you dismiss it, she’ll get bored and give up. “What holiday? Which guy? Good grief that was years ago Hmm”.

If anyone asks you about it, ignore or deny. She can’t exactly prove it.

Plus, you know he’s going through try and play her...

SendintheArdwolves · 30/07/2018 21:34

I think you should have one straight forward chat with her where you say "I was young and I did something stupid. It's not a big deal anymore, but you wanting to continually bring it up and try to make me uncomfortable is - it really makes me feel bad that you keep trying to upset and embarrass me like this. Could you do me a favour and just not mention this guy to me again? If you want to be friends with him, that's your business, but I would really like to be allowed to forget about a mistake I made years ago. It makes me feel awkward and upset and I'd like you to stop."

The thing is, the" just pretend it doesn't bother you " isn't always the best strategy - the game is that she winds you up, and you have to pretend not to be bothered - this gives her plausible deniability that she's doing anything, and forces you to just take it. Whereas if you tell her how you feel it takes the sting out of it - you can show how you actually feel rather than pretending. And then when she does it again you can say "hey, we talked about this. You trying to upset me isn't cool."

If she still keeps on, enact some consequences. If you're on the phone, say breezily "well, I guess we're done here. Speak to you soon" and wrap it up. If you're face to face, change the subject - be obvious about it. "Oh, not this again. Have you read any good books lately?".

Hygge · 30/07/2018 21:36

Your sister sounds awful really.

Is there a possibility she liked him when you met him and was jealous of you?

So she made nasty comments and racist comments out of spite and jealousy, and then enjoyed being able to laugh at you when he took your money?

Is she single now? Is there any chance she's hoping to start a relationship with him herself?

She sounds like she enjoys humiliating you and so this might be her chance to get back at you for being the sister he chose last time?

I don't think I'd put it past her to tell the story at your wedding or even bring him with her.

ShumpaLumpa · 30/07/2018 21:48

I would tell her you will not speak or see her until she agrees to never mention this twat again.

And if she agrees but doesn't keep he promise, I would ignore her again for a few months. And then give her another ultimatum.

PolkaHots · 30/07/2018 22:03

Yes the problem with the ‘brush it off and prestend or doesn’t bother you’ approach, is that although it works 100%, it is much harder then it sounds to pretend not to be bothered. Especially when it’s your sister and she knows you inside out.

However, I would definitely go with exploring why she’s still so obsessed with this guy. There’s clearly something there that’s drawing her to him...

onalongsabbatical · 30/07/2018 22:18

He deliberately set out to defraud you of money when you were young and vulnerable. He was - and may well still be - a scumbag and a criminal and you were the victim of his criminality.
She must really hate you, surely? I can't see any good reason or excuse for this. Unless she's unbelievably stupid and unable to join the dots. You're not being in the least bit unreasonable to be furious.

How to deal with it is, I guess, either make a monumental effort to ignore it to give her no satisfaction, or cut her out until she realises how vile she's being. Whichever one you feel suits you better. I don't think engaging with her is going to help because I think she's enjoying the fact that you're riled. Dear god, Op, how awful. Flowers

Unfinishedkitchen · 30/07/2018 22:27

Sorry but I don’t think you should just brush it off at all. She should be loyal to you. She’s sided with a thieving stranger over her own sister. I’d find it very hard to pretend I don’t care about that. Don’t invite her to the wedding, she’s a liability.

BMW6 · 30/07/2018 22:34

She's doing this to goad and provoke you. Personally I'd have nothing to do with her beyond polite but detached.
If she mentions him, just shrug. But keep as distant as possible.

BMW6 · 30/07/2018 22:37

PS
I would put money on it that if she comes to your wedding she will make a big deal about it. Tell her she is not invited because she is you want people you love there.

MiggledyHiggins · 30/07/2018 22:58

Would she be awful enough to bring him to your wedding as her date?

CrystalMazing · 30/07/2018 23:25

She's not making you look ridiculous. She's making herself look ridiculous. This man conned you out of money, you realised and cut him off.
He added her on facebook, she accepted and is now chatting to him. Soon he'll be hitting her up for money and she'll either fall for it herself or hopefully think twice about how she's treated you.

SendintheArdwolves · 31/07/2018 06:06

I think also that one of the things going on here is that you are still carrying a lot of shame for a mistake you made when you were young.

So you had a quick holiday romance when you were young and on the rebound. You trusted him and sent him money - but then quickly cottoned onto the fact that he wasn't on the level, dumped him and walked away.

You need to forgive yourself for this mistake - it is pretty minor in the grand scheme of things and I bet you that everyone here has been guilty of trusting someone a bit too much. You learned a lesson, and a couple of hundred quid is a cheap price to pay.

SummerWinter · 31/07/2018 06:42

Does she have form for being a bully?

My sister is similar. A recent example includes her making a show of looking up a former friend of mine on FB while with other people and talking about him when she knows that I'm very hurt by what happened with my ex-friend and that having attention drawn to them in this way almost ruined my evening. It's like she delights in my mistakes.

It's all very hahaha funny hahaha but it isn't really - it's using humour to bully. And this is the hardest bullying to call out because you just get told you can't take a joke.

thebewilderness · 31/07/2018 07:09

I think you should explain to your sister that if she wants to show the world that she is cruel and unkind she is welcome to do so but to stop using your painful experience as her tool to demonstrate her shortcomings as a sister and a friend.
If she tries to justify her abusive behavior it is time to get some distance from a person who enjoys hurting you.

IceCreamFace · 31/07/2018 07:30

She's obviously reconnecting with him just to wind you up, why would she want to be friends with some dickhead she met on holiday two years ago? I would definitely try to give her less power over you. Of course YANBU to be annoyed at her but I think she's enjoying her ability to wind you up. (Sometimes siblings get stuck repeating childhood roles with each other - maybe that's what's happening to her, or maybe she's always this much of a wind up merchant).

Shoxfordian · 31/07/2018 07:37

She's trying and succeeding in winding you up. Can you try to be less reactive about it as people suggest? Make it less fun for her to annoy you. If she brings him up say "Oh that was years ago and change the subject "

RedSaidBread · 31/07/2018 07:41

I agree that working on forgiving yourself fir a mistake when you were younger sounds like it would be helpful.

As for your sister it sounds like she has issues with you and is using something she knows is a sore spot to deliberately goad you. I think that's much more of a seriois issue. Rather than focus on this specific goading maybe its time to reflect on why she goads you in the first place?

She sounds awful tbh and I'd say there are underlying issues she has with you. This one incident is almost a red herring..its a symptom of a much darker and deeper issue with how your sister treats you.

RedSaidBread · 31/07/2018 07:42

Ooops sorry for typos!

FuckingHateRain · 31/07/2018 07:58

She's jealous mate....
No you're not unreasonable, do whatever keeps you sane and happy even if this means you go NC on her