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'A Liar should have a good Memory,' Trump thread cont.

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lionheart · 30/07/2018 02:58

Quotation from Quintillian, I believe (unless someone was fibbing about that too).

Old thread here:

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/3309032-Has-Trump-Turned-Traitor-Trump-thread-continued?watched=1&msgid=79826824#79826824

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lionheart · 12/08/2018 17:45

money.cnn.com/2018/08/11/media/boston-globe-free-press-editorial/index.html

'More than 100 newspapers will publish editorials decrying Trump's anti-press rhetoric.'

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cozietoesie · 12/08/2018 17:56

I suspect that he's now 'draped with the presidential cloak' and it will require something extraordinary to remove him.

The same can not be said of the GOP.

ohmymimi · 12/08/2018 18:02

She recorded it in a SCIF, did she not, lion ?:
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sensitive_Compartmented_Information_Facility
'... As part of this process, non-cleared personnel are also typically required to surrender all recording, photographic and other electronic media devices. All of the activity and conversation inside is presumed restricted from public disclosure.[1][5]'
How on earth did that happen, the recording, that is? Why did Kelly do this interview in this location? Legal jeopardy? If so, she's obviously made herself a little unpopular with the WH, so will they go after her?

cozietoesie · 12/08/2018 18:04

All very odd.

lionheart · 12/08/2018 18:05

In the Situation Room, apparently.

www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/aug/12/woodward-bernstein-watergate-donald-trump-era

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lionheart · 12/08/2018 18:08

All things considered, there must be an awful lot of tapes.

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cozietoesie · 12/08/2018 18:12

Quite.

ohmymimi · 12/08/2018 18:24

cozie, by 2020, if he knows continuing in the office of POTUS protects him from certain Fed. and/or District legal proceedings, he'd have considerable incentive to 'barricade' himself in the WH. And before that, there would be a huge escalation of attempts to undermine the electoral system, both practically and with claims it is rigged against him (probably happen anyway). It could get nasty. One thing is pretty certain, the next couple of years are going to be even more unpleasant (+ Brexit).

ohmymimi · 12/08/2018 18:31

Well, it certainly was a situation, lion Wink

'Sensors were installed in the ceilings to detect cellular signals to prevent unauthorized communications and bugging by mobile phones, personal digital assistants, and other devices.[5] Before the renovation, the Secret Service confiscated phones but had no other means of preventing smuggled communication devices.[5] The new complex includes a lead-lined cabinet near the reception area for the deposit of personal communication devices upon entry.[6] Close by are glass-encased booths (which the Associated Press described as "retro-looking") for secure and private telephone calls.[6]'
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Situation_Room

Roussette · 12/08/2018 18:53

Trump can call Omarosa 'lowlife' all he likes. But what does he expect when he employs Apprentice contestants for a political aide! She's a reality celebrity for god's sake. His judgement is absolutely crap.

lionheart · 12/08/2018 18:59

Looks like the Trumpies have decided that, 'It* never happened,' is the safest answer.'

*Insert whatever corrupt, sneaky, illegal move here.

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ohmymimi · 12/08/2018 19:43

' ..... lack of transparency prevents the public from having visibility into conflicts by officials who may oversee millions in spending and make decisions that affect thousands of people.
A monthslong review of state ethics rules found that in 1 out of 5 states, top public health officials are not subject to any disclosure for financial holdings. Even when states do have rules on the books, they vary widely and loopholes abound.
Good government groups and ethics experts say the uneven rules — and ill-defined consequences if problems are identified — make it virtually impossible to know whether officials might have conflicts that skew their decision-making, or to hold them accountable if lapses do occur.'
www.politico.com/story/2018/08/12/state-ethics-rules-health-agencies-conflicts-773481

ohmymimi · 12/08/2018 20:04

Kaitlan Collins
@kaitlancollins

There are small lockers outside the Situation Room where officials are supposed to put their phones, Apple watches, etc.
Robert Maguire
@RobertMaguire_
This is crazy: Omarosa secretly recorded Chief of Staff John Kelly IN THE SITUATION ROOM
Show this thread
@kaitlancollins
Basically no one who signed these sees them as enforceable. At Trump’s insistence, McGahn drafted what was described to me as a watered-down version of a nondisclosure agreement. (link: www.cnn.com/2018/03/21/politics/donald-trump-white-house-nondisclosure-agreements/index.html) cnn.com/2018/03/21/pol…
Ginger Gibson
@GingerGibson
Conway says White House employees have signed NDA. "We have confidentiality agreements in the West Wing, absolutely."
mobile.twitter.com/kaitlancollins/status/1028639181067571200
amp.cnn.com/cnn/2018/03/21/politics/donald-trump-white-house-nondisclosure-agreements/index.html?__twitter_impression=true

cozietoesie · 12/08/2018 20:37

Is Kelly denying the conversation in total, or saying it happened elsewhere? Grin

cozietoesie · 12/08/2018 20:48

Out of interest, has O'Connor conceded in Ohio?

ohmymimi · 12/08/2018 20:50

the Russian gambling ring/money laundering operation being run out of two Trump Tower condos
www.metro.us/news/5-fast-facts-about-alimzhan-tokhtakhounov-russian-mobster-with-ties-to-president-trump/zsJqcv---U1pXlBs8YF8o

Robert Maguire
@RobertMaguire
I had forgotten about the Don Jr comment, but I'm not sure I ever even knew about the Russian gambling ring/money laundering operation being run out of two Trump Tower condos link: www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/are-trumps-mob-connections-a-coincidence-fuhgeddaboudit/2018/08/10/24b62e2c-9cad-11e8-843b- 36e177f3081c_story.html?utm_term=.4303c3297b17 washingtonpost.com/opinions/are-t…
mobile.twitter.com/RobertMaguire_/status/1028692661065138180

www.nytimes.com/2013/06/02/world/europe/tokhtakhounov-says-criminal-charges-are-just-a-misunderstanding.html
abcnews.go.com/US/story-fbi-wiretap-russians-trump-tower/story?id=46266198
www.state.gov/j/inl/tocrewards/c78255.htm

ohmymimi · 12/08/2018 21:32

Murder, insider trading, conspiracy theories, anti-semitism, bigotry, debt, dui, jail time - they all sound perfect for office in the time of Trump:
Charles Franklin
@PollsAndVotes
Maybe we aren’t getting the best candidates for office. Since Wednesday:

link: www.augustachronicle.com/news/20180809/former-congressional-candidate-charged-with-murder-in-aiken. augustachronicle.com/news/20180809/…

link: www.cnbc.com/2018/08/08/gop-congressman-chris-collins-to-be-indicted-on-insider-trading-charge.html. cnbc.com/2018/08/08/gop…

link: www.kansascity.com/news/politics-government/article216387050.html kansascity.com/news/politics-…

link: politics.myajc.com/news/state--regional-govt--politics/hate-this-county-democratic-house-candidate-convicted-dui-unloads-cops/T9B8qfyAjX7NnI725UV2VP/ politics.myajc.com/news/state--re…

mobile.twitter.com/PollsAndVotes/status/1027954901760978945

Gumpendorf · 12/08/2018 21:55

twitter.com/PreetBharara/status/1028667781095542786

It is maybe the accidental self-inoculating genius of Donald Trump that in surrounding himself for decades with hard-core thugs, crooks, charlatans, cheats & liars, if and when they finally turn on Trump their lack of credibility continues to serve Trump.

Gumpendorf · 12/08/2018 21:58

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/08/07/us/elections/results-ohio-special-house-election-district-12.html

Ohio 12th, cozie. Still too close to call as an automatic recount may be triggered after provisional ballots have been counted.

cozietoesie · 12/08/2018 22:04

Thanks, Gump.

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