to be annoyed by people who let their kids run round supermarkets 'playing'

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Actually screaming and running into people.
I had an interesting 'conversation' with a woman when i muttered for someone to stop them screaming and running around. This woman, who didn't actually have anything to do with the kids, who were roughly 4 and 2, told me they were only playing.

I told her it was a very busy supermarket and they shouldn't be playing here
She then muttered about some people having to take their children shopping. I told her I had had to take all of mine (6 under 8) and no they were't ever allowed to run round screaming whilst I ignored them.
Wtf is wrong with people?

100% with you @GreatDuckCookery

There are a few cases where there is a victim of an accident caused by children being unruly in public places and those people have my absolute sympathy.

But I'm quite convinced that a lot of people on here are insisting on reserving their right to be pissy and unsympathetic even when there is no accident and no victim.

Cue replies of But there COULD be an accident....

Yes there could. That's life unfortunately. And it could be because mum is a rubbish neglectful person or she's a bereaved widow or she's tired or she's leaning into the back of the milk fridge for 2 seconds. I would not presume to know which one is the case and it is not up to me to condemn her.

Don't you generally do things to minimise the chance of accidents then?

Or are you a Darwin award waiting to happen?

So no-one should do anything to try and prevent accidents happening then Amy?

You wouldn't need to have absolute sympathy with people who have suffered accidents caused by unruly children in public places such as supermarkets if parents ensured their children weren't unruly, dangerous and liable to cause injury to others (or in some cases themselves), would you?

amy

The reason there are far few less accidents are because other people step up. They grab kids who run out towards the road. Staff tell them to stop it. Passer bus intervene.

So you want the benefit of all these "judgemental " people who interfere so someone else doesn't have to cos they might be going through stuff?

I've been going to the supermarket every day for the past 30 years and I've never seen a child knock an elderly person over

I don't suppose you saw me being knocked over in the street by a child whose father was encouraging his children to play a chasing game in a busy pedestrian area. It still happened. Fortunately I'm not elderly and was only(!) bruised and shaken.

I don't suppose you saw an elderly acquaintance of mine being knocked down by a boy riding his bike furiously in the same pedestrian area. The boy and the elderly gentleman were both taken to hospital. He told me the boy's parents, when they arrived, blamed him for not getting out of the way quickly enough.

And there is never any reason not to at least try to teach children that different places require different behaviours, and that something that is entirely acceptable in a playground or your own back garden, is not acceptable in a supermarket.

God help us when these kids who are allowed to behave exactly as they want, without being checked or chastised by a parent, become adults. We are doomed as a society. We already have a growing number of entitled parents, who believe that rules don't apply to them, or that their children can behave exactly as they please, even if it's to the detriment of society in general, or those around them. Ffs......🙄 thank God I'll be retired from teaching by then and can take my holidays outside term time so I won't be subjected to their antisocial behaviour on planes or in airports. I can go shopping when they're in school too, meaning I don't have to put up with their shit there either.

Those of you who make or let their children sit in the trollies - not the toddler seats in them - that are not designed to hold childrens weight as none of them have support at the front making it very easy for them to topple over are just as bad if not worse especially most of them marked with no children signs. Designed that way on purpose for those that can't be bothered to parent their child and make them walk round on shock horror - their own two feet holding onto it to try and stop them putting their bodies, feet, shoes etc where peoples food have to go.

There really isn't a reason to be such dicks about everyone else either, calling them shitty parents. Maybe they don't care, or maybe they can't cope, or maybe they are worn down and tired and depressed,,whatever.

Of course kids should not be doing anything that will hurt other people, and of course they should not knocking over the elderly in supermarkets. Nobody has said that its perfectly fine. Just that there is no need to be such bitches about parents who are probably doing their best and sometimes failing.
It doesn't make pp's dad or whoever to heal faster my being nasty about all parents who aren't as perfect as you.

@21stCenturyMrsBennett Like most people, I can spot the difference a mile off between parents and kids who are having a bad day or a rare/isolated incident and parents who haven't set rules, boundaries and parameters for their kids. It's dead easy. I have boundless patience for the former and fuck all patience for the latter and their offspring.

I've never seen an accident involving a child in a supermarket

Damn! My father's obviously lying.....or maybe he purposefully stepped in front of an out of control little brat on a scooter and got himself injured just because he wanted to make a parent feel bad about herself.

FFS. I have no words for those people who defend these idiots.

@auditqueen me neither. Apologists each and every one of them

It doesn't make pp's dad or whoever to heal faster my being nasty about all parents who aren't as perfect as you

Or maybe, if she wasn't such a fucking shit parent to her child my father would not have needed to heal?

to all the not perfect but trying their best parents (and non parents) on this thread who parent their children properly.

I've never seen anyone be murdered or knocked down by a car. I've never seen a man punch his wife, so?

I fucked that up, sorry. I meant parents and non parents who call out bad behaviour.

I always expect parents to try to ensure their children behave. It just doesn't always work.

I think being snooty and mean to new mums is a worse quality than failing to control your children on one occasion.

And I seem to have included a where I didn't need to.....

To be honest @AmyRhodes, that's not what's being discussed here 😉

auditqueen that's brilliant news re your dad!

A new mum is someone with a new baby, not someone with older kids who run and scoot in supermarkets.
The other day a woman was wrestling with a toddler and young child. The toddler was screaming blue murder. I stopped to sympathise with her and reassure her that we'd all been there. She was parenting her children.

It is. Was so worried about him.

My mother was abusive to me, but dad always had my back and stood up for me. He supported all my choices and helped me to leave an abusive marriage, helped pay my rent and feed me until I got a job (even though he had little money himself at the time).

He worked as a lecturer and inspired hundreds of young people, especially from deprived backgrounds, to pursue their dreams. He helped them to find PhDs, gave them much needed experience and even found some of them jobs. Up until 15 years ago he was still involved in mentoring teenagers from deprived backgrounds. If I'd had children, he would have been the best grandfather ever.

That's the man some posters are dismissing as not important.

*Cue replies of But there COULD be an accident....

Yes there could. That's life unfortunately.*

Yes accidents are unfortunately part of life. However isn't trying to prevent accidents also a part of life? For example, I drive carefully, to avoid causing accidents. I do this not only for my own welfare, and that of whoever is in my car, but also every other road user. That's because I'm not a moron.

Parents who let their children ride scooters in supermarkets, or indeed any kind of shop, or building where there are members of the public, are putting their child and others at risk of serious injury. It's moronic.

AuditQueen - really happy to read that about your dad. I wish him well as he continues to recover.