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AIBU?

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To want to move to another country?

146 replies

HowIWishYouWereHere · 26/07/2018 12:09

Before Brexit kicks in?

I know, I know, scaremongering yada yada. And I’m not saying I want to flee whatever the cost because I’m soooo scared of what will happen after we leave the EU. Maybe it will be fine..? I think best case scenario is it will be quite hard for a bit but will get sorted out in time. So still not all that great, unless one has a good reason to stay? That’s my theory at least.

So, the thing is, I am entitled to and could easily apply for two passports other than British. One (non EU) because I was born there and also an EU country, because one of my parents was born there. I also have some family still in the EU country. I have no family in England. DH does, but we don’t see very much of them at all. It’s quite complicated, but there is a lot of favouritism towards dh’s sibling and it’s quite hurtful. DH doesn’t seem to mind tbh, but I find it really sad and am hurt on his behalf.

DH has a very good job in London, but in a precarious industry. He is a professional and has a charter ship etc so skills are theoretically transferable. I am just about to go back to work, as a low earner, but in a job I could do, pretty much anywhere. We have a fairly big mortgage. One I absolutely couldn’t pay I Dh lost his job. We also bought at almost peak price so would only get a little more than what we paid for it if we sold now. After fees we would get back about what we paid for it. If we end up in negative equity and dh has no job... well you see the problem.

The best reason to stay is that dh’s job may not even be effected by Brexit and then if I’ve encouraged him to leave it to move elsewhere and he can’t get back into his profession there, I imagine that would cause a lot of resentment.

Dh sees no reason to leave and is very calm about everything. But he can be a bit too calm sometimes.

AIBU to think we, in our specific circumstances, should move to another country? Not asking if everyone should vacate the uk or anything!

OP posts:
HowIWishYouWereHere · 26/07/2018 21:23

*jobs are

OP posts:
Rollupandride · 26/07/2018 21:32

You don't lose anything by getting the passports either way.....

Genevieva · 26/07/2018 21:34

I am going to hazard a guess that the EU country is Ireland.

The pharmaceutical industry is well represented there because of low corporation tax, so your husband may well find a job. However, the cost of living is higher there verses income than in the UK (especially in Dublin), taxes are slightly higher and you need private health insurance. You might find your quality of life goes down, not up.

TheElementsSong · 26/07/2018 21:44

I’m really not hysterical, but, um...thanks?

Amazing how a poster can tell that a thread is hysterical when they clearly haven't read any of it Grin

rainbowsandsmiles · 26/07/2018 22:05

AIBU to run away to another country before Brexit kicks in (and we all fall down and implode in a fit of doom presumably, otherwise why else would you be contemplating leaving?)
Yep, pretty OTT -hysterical reaction
My answer to your question, YANBU if that's how you feel, see ya, bye then.

TheElementsSong · 27/07/2018 06:44

Didn’t you say bye already?

Did the OP say anything about fleeing to escape exploding in doom? Maybe she said while carrying one of those End of The World sandwich boards that you imagined?

If there’s any OTT hysterical over-exaggeration going on, it’s not coming from the OP Hmm.

But bye again.

HowIWishYouWereHere · 27/07/2018 08:08

rainbows

Can you read my op and subsequent posts again a little more carefully please? I can only assume you’ve misread, as your posts are completely off. And yes, you’re repeating yourself. Are you ok?

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rainbowsandsmiles · 27/07/2018 09:23

Theelementssong - quick to accuse me of not reading the posts properly - are you reading the posts properly? I clearly said bye then to the OP who said AIBU to feel I have to move out of UK quick before Brexit."
Not me saying bye Confused

TheElementsSong · 27/07/2018 12:28

"Look, a squirrel!" Grin

rainbowsandsmiles · 27/07/2018 12:31

Look, a squirrel!"

What?? Grin

Have you started stashing your food early in the woods which is why you're seeing squirrels?! Grin

rainforesttreeswinging · 27/07/2018 12:36

What you need is some help with your anxiety levels which are clearly very severe.
The way you describe catastrophe is disturbing, losing all sense of proportion and perspective. Call your GP and ask for help 💐

TheElementsSong · 27/07/2018 12:36

Still not answering the OP's polite question (which was the same as mine really) - I'm sure you can C&P the OP's precise quote which hysterically indicated fleeing from impending doom-explosiveness. Or, maybe you can't, and you saw her walking around with it on an End of the World sandwich board?

DasPepe · 27/07/2018 12:39

Firstly- dual citizenship may only apply if you get your passport BEFORE Brexit, so is get going with that.

Secondly it takes about a year to settle somewhere - so be prepared to question yourself a lot.

Thirdly - if you leave it too late you will be in the back of the queue for jobs and good places to live. We live in a small city in Germany and there has been a change in availability in rents in recent years.

Lastly, living somewhere else is challenging but rewarding. It can be lonely but it can also be busy and you meet lots of people.
Little things can be a challenge but overcoming them makes you feel better.

There are lots of lovely places and lovely people all over Europe.

rainbowsandsmiles · 27/07/2018 12:43

Still not answering the OP's polite question (which was the same as mine really)

Yes, I DID. Are you not reading? That's why I'm repeating myself, I have to keep saying it!

OP - Am I unreasonable to want to move to another country 'cos Brexit?"

Me - No, you're not if you feel you have to get out of UK cos Brexit, YANBU, off you go then, see ya, bye.

Was it not the right answer, is that why you can't see it?

TheElementsSong · 27/07/2018 12:48

*AIBU to run away to another country before Brexit kicks in (and we all fall down and implode in a fit of doom presumably, otherwise why else would you be contemplating leaving?)
Yep, pretty OTT -hysterical reaction *

Must be my failing eyesight, damn this age-related longsightedness. I can't see the OP's "OTT hysteria", or specific advocation of "running away" or "falling down" or "doom implosion" or even any words to that effect.

And the OP politely asked you this morning to carefully re-read her posts because you seem to have misread. Perhaps your eyesight is also in need of assistance?

ScrubTheDecks · 27/07/2018 12:48

Look, you are in a strong position.

Property is along game. You could always relocate and rent out your London house, rentals elsewhere are unlikely ever to reach London rental prices, are they?

Your DH has a well paid job, you can find work.

You also have the pick of opportunity in the other countries.

So I would make your decisions on what you actually want to do.

And that seems to be the point of contention. You would rather live in your home country , your DH would rather live here. Are you using Brexit to persuade him to re-locate to your EU country?

rainbowsandsmiles · 27/07/2018 12:50

TheElementSong - what part are you not getting?

AIBU to move to another country before Brexit kicks in?

The exact words just for you.

Me - No, you're not if you feel you have to get out of UK cos Brexit, YANBU, off you go then, see ya, bye.

Answered. Repeatedly now! Is it like the whole vote thing, you're only allowed to answer if it's the "right" answer for it to count?

rainbowsandsmiles · 27/07/2018 12:53

As you're fixating on the "doom" bit I posted earlier - why else would you want to get out quick before Brexit if you didn't think it was because of some catastrophe or other?

TheElementsSong · 27/07/2018 12:55

GrinGrinGrin Just to clarify for anybody else who hasn't read the thread - the OP did not in fact post in an OTT, hysterical, flee-from-DOOOOOOOM-laden manner anywhere despite accusations thereof which we're all going to pretend we didn't see GrinGrinGrin

rainforesttreeswinging · 27/07/2018 13:01

Er op was definitely scaremonging in her OWN words, she added to this by saying she was ‘soooooooo scared’
To then say she isn’t talking doom and gloom and sounding hysterical is a little farcical

TheElementsSong · 27/07/2018 13:06

Er op was definitely scaremonging in her OWN words, she added to this by saying she was ‘soooooooo scared’

Right. I'm going back to the first post to check.

"...and I’m not saying I want to flee whatever the cost because I’m soooo scared"

You did see the "not" didn't you?

rainbowsandsmiles · 27/07/2018 13:06

Er op was definitely scaremonging in her OWN words, she added to this by saying she was ‘soooooooo scared’ To then say she isn’t talking doom and gloom and sounding hysterical is a little farcical
THANK you! Exactly! Grin
It's starting to read like a farce!

rainbowsandsmiles · 27/07/2018 13:07

Elements - why the big rush to get out of UK BEFORE Brexit if you didn't think there was some pressing rush to?

TheElementsSong · 27/07/2018 13:08

God knows why I'm even bothering. I'm sure the OP can answer for herself.

Why bother making random shit up and deliberately misquoting in order to misrepresent somebody else's position, if you were so confident in the self-evident virtue of your own correctness?

rainbowsandsmiles · 27/07/2018 13:11

OK, missed the not, but why else would anyone want to move out of UK because Brexit if it wasn't because of some doom related scenario?
Can you answer?