Photographs at school plays etc

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Every Time there is a thread on here about parents not being allowed to take photos and share on social media etc at school plays and assemblies there are a load of replies in the vein of stuff everyone else I'll take whatever pics I want.

Just read that the three year old boy who is in hospital having had acid thrown in his face was tracked down by his violent father after his photo appeared in a local paper at an event.

Wow -maybe schools should just abandon any photos on websites-I survived with neither internet or social media and so did my school!

kathmacc
How callous it’s not about you

Sorry but how on earth is what Kath said callous

My DD's playgroup says you can take photos but don't put them on social media, this is why. It is safe guarding other kids in the class. I always try and zoom I'm so I only get pictures of my daughter when at playgroup and I abide by the rules and don't post on social media.

There has been a similar thread running ( don't know how to link) saying the same about children's photos from sports day appearing on Facebook.

I know from personal experience how dangerous this can be , especially for children in foster care.

A photo was put on Facebook which seriously jeopardised a child's safety as they were in a protected address, nobody knew where they were, and suddenly there they were online , name of school etc which lead to a serious safeguarding issue.
If people want to put their own dc out there, feel free, but not other peoples dc. You never know what is going on in their lives.

Our school has put a ban on photos as we have a lot of children who are in foster care, but we have a parent who is a professional photographer who does amazing photographs of all of our events and makes them available for parents to download for free. He brings a whole team with him so they get photos from lots of angles, and also does individual shots of every child in their costumes. Much higher quality than any parent would ever get with their iPhone, so parents have no real reason to grumble. He sits down with the AP when editing to make sure any of the children who can't be photographed do not appear in any of the photos. For those children who are in care or have reasons for photos not to be made public, he prints off a copy for their carer/parent so they still get a photo of their child in the event without them being put online.

Software like this is around - wouldn't take much for it to come to the UK:

www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/may/17/findface-face-recognition-app-end-public-anonymity-vkontakte

Midnite, what an amazing man he is!

I disagree. The problem lies with the cunt who believes it’s OK to throw acid in a 3 yr olds face. That shouldn’t stop me taking a picture of my DD being a sheep

To clarify the problem is his father is a violent shit. But not all dads are violent shits. Sometimes really great dads are at work and want to see their kids doing their shows. Do you think they should be banned from seeing that?

Oh yes, edwinbear, I definitely think it is far more important than a dad who won't take time off work to see their child go 'baaa' on stage is far more important than the needs of a three year old to be protected from the 'violent shit'. Fuck 'em, who cares about those traumatised kids anyway, my DS is Sheep Number 6 ya know!

I spend most of my time at any form of event worrying that someone will catch my child on camera and put it on social media/ in the press. If people could be trusted not to put online like 30 years ago when online didn't exist it'd be fine.

DSS's school has a fantastic policy if every one follows it - you can take photos but don't put them online if there are other children in it, BUT those whose parents have not consented will wear a yellow wristband and you are not to take any photos that have these children in them. Possibly a bit embarrassing for the child wearing it, but safeguarding is more important than embarrassment.

My DS is adopted so I am anticipating many battles over his school years about photographs!

I don’t like the idea of segregating children like that, and it may also mean some awkward questions for the parents they aren’t yet ready for. It could also lead to gossip/bullying.

It really shouldn’t be hard for people to understand don’t post photos of any children other than your own unless you have direct consent from their parent/carer.

Most school have very strict policies though regarding their pictures its parents who dont follow it thats the issue. There is a girl in DD year who is adopted and when she was in the choir she was not included in the photos and none were posted online everyone understood

Here it must be whether they had consent to do it or not

I will never, ever, ever understand how anyone's need to take a picture trumps the safety of a child. I am constantly shocked at just how selfish people are, it is disgusting.

The problem is the parents who feel entitled to put photos of other children on social media.

If these selfish parents followed instructions, then all parents would be able to take whatever photos they want.

My children are adopted. They don't appear on social media. We don't much like it either that there are certain events we can't take pictures of. But this is because of other selfish parents not because of school doing sensible safeguarding.

I wouldn't be happy with the yellow wristband policy, at school events. Though I have seen something similar used somewhere else with different coloured name stickers to good effect.

One of the parents at my dc school is a police officer and his wife is a border force agent.
They both get threatened at work, and do not allow any photos of their children online. The school are really on the ball with them and don’t allow any photography if they are involved.

If what the OP says is true though, it's not parents taking pictures of their DS as a sheep who put this boy in danger, it's the local paper. I assume then he was in a public place when his photo was taken, or someone massively failed in safeguarding.

I've been posting for years about this and other privacy issues

"there are a load of replies in the vein of stuff everyone else I'll take whatever pics I want" is not typical of MN, where posters on the whole are far more considerate.

Where did you read it was the child's father op?

Totally agree with you re photos of other people's kids online. A guy I know who has been with his gf about 2 minutes attended her sons nursery sports day and put photographs of it all over Facebook. Included in the pictures were staffs uniforms clearly identifying the nursery and lots of kids with their faces very clear in the photos - not just 'action shots'

Before I read a previous thread on this I would not have seen the reason for not posting pics of other people’s kids but your social media account.

It’s not worth arguing about- don’t post pics on social media where other people’s kids are identifiable.

Unfortunately some people are unable to comprehend this so that’s where the total ban on taking pics come in. I agree, that’s sh*t, but in some places that’s how it’s got to be.

@Kaytee87 It is in all the papers, one of the 4 men arrested for it was the boys father.

So this photo was in the press and not social media? Assuming a press shot must have had a level of permission from the mother either personally asked or asked via school for permission?

No good blaming social media if the mum has (perhaps misguidedly) given permission.

At my DC's sports day last month there were parents taking pictures. There was one girl wearing what looked like her knickers (apparently she didn't have her kit with her) - it was her I felt sorry for