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To wonder if I need to pull 50 hour weeks to earn above 23k?

31 replies

Quiddichcup · 22/07/2018 20:23

Im looking at moving up the next pay grade at work, starting point is 23k for a 37.5 hour week.
Except I know ( as it's internal) that it's expected to be 50 hours with no pay for over time.

I'm a single parent and it's out of the question that i could manage that on a regular basis. And besides that i just don't want to.

So, if I want to earn above this wage is this something I need to just suck up or is it just my workplace ( nhs)

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bilbodog · 22/07/2018 20:26

Depends on the type of job as well as the employer. I dont know if your job could be transferred from the nhs to another employer?

Emma145 · 22/07/2018 20:26

I earn 27k and do 40 hours a week I work in the private sector though in the east Midlands . I rarely do overtime. I suppose it depends on what kind of job it is but 50 hours a week is a lot for 23k!

peachypetite · 22/07/2018 20:27

I would suggest you look for other type jobs where you'll be able to leave on time every day.

flytry · 22/07/2018 20:30

It really depends on what you do, what your role is and what area you work in. I also work in the NHS and earn that salary for 18.75 hours/week, and I rarely ever work over my hours.

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Quiddichcup · 22/07/2018 20:33

It's in operations.

So operational co- ordinator.

My brain thinks I'll be 100 pounds a month better off for working 2.5 hours more a day, when I already work full time. I'm not sure it makes sense but I want to progress my career and earn more.

Perhaps it's time to leave the NHS.

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Littletabbyocelot · 22/07/2018 20:33

Not all NHS employers are like that. Other than the management training scheme I've never known anyone under band 6 expected to do unpaid overtime and then not to that extent. A couple of the places I worked actively discouraged working more than your hours. I think 50 hours for £23k is unreasonable. Agenda for change states overtime is paid up to 6 or 7 (can't remember which). Essentially that increase in hours means a massive pay cut. About £1 an hour over minimum wage.

If you have transferable skills you can find better hours for that money

MsVestibule · 22/07/2018 20:34

What will happen if you take the job but refuse to do the 50 hours?

SunnySomer · 22/07/2018 20:34

I work in a different part of the public sector and earn quite a bit more than that for 37.5 hours and a v flexible approach to work. Do you have transferable skills?

BakedBeans47 · 22/07/2018 20:35

I wouldn’t be working 50 hours a week for £23k

dementedma · 22/07/2018 20:39

i also think expecting 50 hours a week for 23K is not acceptable. f you do extra hours, you should be remunerated for them

Original poster
Quiddichcup · 22/07/2018 20:43

I've got lots of transferable skills.
I don't mind a bit of over time when it's a really needed, or in a crisis, but it's not something I want to do regularly.

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VeryFoolishFay · 22/07/2018 21:45

My DH is a band 6 in a CCG and does a 37.5hr working week. His job is more administrative than operational and he works full on when he is there but he doesn't do overtime.

VladmirsPoutine · 22/07/2018 21:47

I wouldn't do 50 hours for 23k whatever the job.

XiCi · 22/07/2018 21:49

50hrs per week for 23k is fucking outrageous. You should not be expected to work those hours for no extra pay.

Chocolatepeanuts · 22/07/2018 22:19

Like a PP said what would happen if you refused once you had the job? Im NHS and my manager has to beg us to do paid overtime never mind unpaid.

Marmablade · 22/07/2018 22:21

28.5 hours
£29k salary (prorated from FTE)
Public sector

No you don't.

areyouactuallykidding · 22/07/2018 22:31

No it’s not inevitable. I work 28 hours a week and earn £55k.

EmmaGrundyForPM · 22/07/2018 22:35

Do you want to stay in the NHS? My 20 year old ds earns £23k for a 37.5 hours week in the Local Authority. He never does over his hours. Expectng a 50 hour week in return for £23k is ridiculous and exploitative.

Elledouble · 22/07/2018 22:42

Generally as wages get higher you’re expected to put a bit of extra graft in when it’s absolutely necessary but £23k for a standard 50hrs/week is awful. Start having a look outside the NHS, the pensions are pants but the pay and conditions can be better!

JustVent · 22/07/2018 22:51

No way. I would never work that many hours for that much pay.

categed · 22/07/2018 22:51

I work (officially) 21.5h (actually) nearer 35h for just under £22000 so yes there are jobs and maybe time for a change for you.

DianaPrincessOfThemyscira · 22/07/2018 23:25

I recently had a payrise from £25-£37k a year and my working week is 35 hours. No way would I be doing 50 hours for £23. Just no way.

I do ‘unpaid’ overtime now but I’d say maybe an extra 5 hours a week? If that? And it’s not all the time, it’s business needs, so I’m actually ok doing it and knocking off earlier in the slower periods.

NT53NJT · 22/07/2018 23:35

My boss cried when I asked for a £3k pay rise and gave me only £1k so you did very well getting £12k lol.

Johnnyfinland · 22/07/2018 23:42

Christ no! I earn considerably more than that and work 37.5 hours a week. I don’t want to say how much because this isn’t a stealth boast but that’s ridiculous, I’d look for a new job

RedBlu · 22/07/2018 23:43

Nope, that amount of hours for that pay is bad. If they expect people to work those hours, they need to pay for the overtime worked or pay a salary that covers working those hours.

I work 30-35 hours a week and earn £28k. A lot of people I work with do 50+ hours a week but they earn like £50k plus and it's sort of expected of them to put those sort of hours in.

For £23k I would expect to work between 35-40 hours a week and no more