AIBU to think men prefer fake looking women?

[Bumpitybumper]

I can't help but feel suspicious everytime I read the results from a survey where it is suggested that men prefer the "natural" look. This just doesn't seem to reflect my experience in real life and also what I see on social media or on TV.

We have Kylie Jenner and Kim Kardashian who have both obviously had a LOT of work being viewed as the pinnacle of female attractiveness whilst Meghan from Love Island who has apparently been completely remodeled by surgeon seems to have attracted the most men in Love Island.

AIBU to suggest despite their protestations that men actually don't favour the natural look at all?

It’s all about sex ultimately!

You are socialising with the wrong kind of men. Most men (and women) I know at the very least judge people who get extreme cosmetic procesures/wear a lot of make up etc. Or at the extreme are repulsed by it.

My adult daughters are both relatively natural. One wears light, natural looking make-up and has highlights in her hair, the other is completely natural; no make-up at all, won't have her hair cut, doesn't even have pierced ears. Both are blessed with lovely skin and natural good looks and neither has ever been short of male attention, in fact their partners are both completely smitten. Personally I think their self-assurance and no-nonsense personalities are also very attractive. Women who appear to be trying too hard may suffer by only being seen as good for a bit of fun.

MirriVan

Wow.. I presented a male opinion and was ignored.. Interesting. Please don't pretend to be inclusive any more. Things have changed..Hmm*

HAAAAAAAAA!

A MAN SPOKE, EVERYONE!!!
WE SHOULD HAVE ALL ACKNOWLEDGED HIS INPUT IMMEDIATELY BUT DIDN'T.
SHAME ON US!

Laughable!🤣🤣🤣

Why do people think duck lips or trout pouts are attractive? I don’t get it.

Clean, Good teeth. General basic hygiene. Not obese - not anorexic a weight in portion to her frame/height who can enjoy a pizza/glass of wine

I think men atleast the ones I know like women who wear make up that takes a short time to apply that brings out features or increases their confidence. Which in turn a confident women who enters a room with her head held high is a real head turner no matter what level of attractiveness you’re deemed to be.

At the same time I think women prefer that I pluck my monobrow, get rid of my ear and nose hair. keep my hair and facial hair trim. And apply my rosacea medication/sunblock so I don’t get excused of being an alcoholic.

We’ve had this lip thing before but there is a theory that they look like labia

Nice

That’s what I mean about it signalling sexual availability

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Mr Spase can't stand the fake look, to the extent he holds his hands over his eyes in an overly dramatic fashion, when some 'alien' looking woman appears on TV (his word not mine). He's even gob smacked/visually disturbed when he sees a pair of overly groomed/plucked/filled eyebrows! He really can't see the appeal of fake boobs either and says he dosnt know any men that have admitted to liking them.

squirreltamer anorexia isn’t a weight, it is a mental illness. It is not the opposite of obese. Plenty of obese and overweight women are anorexic.

I have a rule. I have only ever dated men (when I've dated men) who wear more make-up than me.

The men most likely to express their preference may well like fake looks. So it can feel like the most vocal men will talk about looks a lot more and be superficial in their tastes.

The more down to earth men probably prefer a down to earth woman too. They are just not vocal about it. Reverse the roles... There will be women who rave about young fit men, great bodies etc. They make a lot of noise. Plenty of other women prefer a down to earth man, and don't feel a need to shout about it.

So what we read and see via the media are the vociferous ones, and they distort the truth of how most people are.

It was a thing back in the 17th century as well. Nothing changes much.
Still to be neat, still to be drest,
As you were going to a feast;
Still to be powder'd, still perfum'd:
Lady, it is to be presum'd,
Though art's hid causes are not found,
All is not sweet, all is not sound.

Give me a look, give me a face,
That make simplicity a grace;
Robes loosely flowing, hair as free:
Such sweet neglect more taketh me
Than all th'adulteries of art.
They strike mine eyes, but not my heart.

Ben Jonson

@TooTrueToBeGood

As for Love Island, I have sadly seen it briefly as it happened to be on in the background and I was too busy reading to be arsed changing the channel.

PMSL at this. Denial in its finest form

@arealmanithink

Man here.. I think some men like the fake look because it demonstrates that that woman needs to feel approval, and she'll go to extremes to get it. Some men like insecurity and exploit it. Surgery signals insecurity and a lack of self worth based on looks. Thus a weakness that's exploitable..ie. Wow you look great now..etc..Debate

Wow.. I presented a male opinion and was ignored.. Interesting. Please don't pretend to be inclusive any more. Things have changed..*

And PMSL at this poster getting all pissy because the silly iccle wimmin on here didn't bow to his wise and sage words

He even gave a He MUST be mad. Wooooooooo. Be afraid laydeeeeez.

Have to agree with the posters saying that it's utter bollocks to say if someone is a bit obsessed with their appearance, that they are less intelligent. What a stupid generalisation!

By the way @arealmanithink I don't 'pretend to be inclusive.' I am quite happy to say that I have no desire to talk to men on here ... I know they are 'allowed,' but I have no desire to talk to them - not on this forum. And I am entitled to that view.

@thecatsthecats
*I have to say OP, I'm always bloody annoyed by strangers online (usually men to be honest), asserting that their generalised opinions of men are less accurate than my own first-hand knowledge of my fiance.

He doesn't fancy women with the 'fake' look. I imagine that's true of what other people are reporting of their partners. Take it from me and add it to your perspective, don't bend what people are telling you to suit your opinion.*
Of course I don't know your fiance better than you do and I have never claimed otherwise. My point wasn't that all men are lying when they say that they prefer the natural look but that some men may well be incentivised to lie to their partners if they did have a preference for the fake look as they probably predict (quite rightly in most cases I imagine) that such an admission would go down like a lead balloon.

It's not any more natural to be able to squat your own bodyweight, than it is to have fake breasts.

...what? Squatting your own bodyweight is something most people who follow a halfway healthy diet and are not total novices to squatting should be able to do. Whereas fake breasts require surgery and foreign material inserted into the body.

I think it comes down to what is meant by 'fake'. There is obviously fake that you can't really picture what they look like without the additions, and have become a bit of a caricature. May look good from afar when men are ogling in a club or whatever but close up maybe not.

Then there is fake that involves all of the nonsense women routinely go through and 'enjoy' such as skin care, highlights, hair removal, manicures, diets. This is still presenting a 'fake' look, after all how many people would go for a night out or job interview looking like they do when they have just got out of bed - 'natural'.

When I dress up/diet/put make up on I am often thinking about what the female opinions will be, rather than males but that is because,being married, I'm not after male attention I guess. I also dress to feel better about myself, and confident. So maybe men are attracted to those that are self assured and some women need all the fakery to be self assured. Still not convinced men would be turned off if all women said, nah not going to bother anymore.

Oh and to the man complaining everyone ignored him - I think it was the instruction to 'debate' that made us realise you weren't worth engaging with.

"Men" like all sorts of things.

Women can enhance their looks with the fake look so a women who naturally is 6/10 looks wise could increase that to a 7/10 or 8/10. A large proportion of men would prefer to go out with the latter over the ordinary looking 6/10.

Obviously most men would prefer a natural looking 7/10 or 8/10 fake one.

"Men" like all sorts of things.

Perfect. Says all that is necessary.

I'm not sure I really understand what is meant by "natural" and "fake". Surely there isn't any fundamental difference between wearing nice clothes and using make-up / nail polish etc. It's all part of the presentation.

I used to have a work colleague who was terribly obese. She used lots of make-up, bright red lippy, did her hair and wore big flowery dresses. She looked fantastic. She was much more pleasing to my eye than any other woman in the office (of course I never told her this).

By contrast my DW doesn't use any cosmetics at all, and in my view looks perfectly nice. Ultimately, it doesn't matter that much to me, although if she did so I'd probably enjoy her appearance. But none of this would make her (or former work colleague) "fake" rather than "natural" imo.

"Fake" is something like Kim Kardashian who in my view looks like a mutant or a cartoon because of her altered face and unnaturally exaggerated body shape. I can think of many celebrities who men I know have commented favourably on, but KK isn't one. She's no more a heterosexual man's idea of sexy than the androgynous waifs of high fashion.

Same with Kylie Jenner. Kylie Minogue on the other hand..

Some men for sure like the fake look, and more disturbing, I’ve heard a couple of men say they like this look not because they think it’s more attractive, but because they like a woman to put themselves through extreme measures just to please males - makes the men feel powerful or something. Completely gross

I think this is overly cynical.

No doubt there are some men who think this way. For me, I would feel pleased and flattered if a woman made an extra effort because we were spending the evening with one another.

In my experience, most men are not massively fussy as long as you look vaguely normal and will fuck them occasionally.
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