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AIBU to think men prefer fake looking women?

357 replies

Bumpitybumper · 19/07/2018 12:47

I can't help but feel suspicious everytime I read the results from a survey where it is suggested that men prefer the "natural" look. This just doesn't seem to reflect my experience in real life and also what I see on social media or on TV.

We have Kylie Jenner and Kim Kardashian who have both obviously had a LOT of work being viewed as the pinnacle of female attractiveness whilst Meghan from Love Island who has apparently been completely remodeled by surgeon seems to have attracted the most men in Love Island.

AIBU to suggest despite their protestations that men actually don't favour the natural look at all?

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fantasmasgoria1 · 19/07/2018 14:31

None of the men I have known as partners or friends have liked this look. My fiancé says he likes a real woman with no implants etc. I said in ten years time I might like a few wrinkle fillers and he is against it.

TruffleShuffles · 19/07/2018 14:31

I actually think love island is a good example of this and highlights the point being made. Pretty much every man on there claims that natural looking girls are their type only to be completely dazzled by a girl who walks in with breast implants, lip and face fillers, hair extensions, microblading, veneers and inch thick makeup. They then claim that these women are completely there type.

I don’t think it’s because they like fake women I think it’s because plastic surgery and all these cosmetic treatments have become so normal that they don’t even realise it’s fake. Unfortunately what is being pushed as the standard of beauty at the moment probably isn’t really achievable without a bit of tweaking.

Allegorical · 19/07/2018 14:31

Yeah they prefer the natural look on someone that is a natural beauty.
But a woman that is not a natural beauty is only doing what she feels she needs to do to level the playing field.
I think there are two separate things here.
The fake “look” of fake boobs, heavy makeup, nails etc.

And someone that is surgically enhanced to look like what is seen as traditionally naturally beautiful for instance a nose job like Meghan from love island.

MissCherryCakeyBun · 19/07/2018 14:35

Heavens I'm not angry at all, I personally believe that each to their own and letting people do what they want sexually as long as it's between consenting adults is just fine
I do have issue with the way media portrays not just women but men too as this is very misleading to younger members of society and I believe is very damaging to both young men and women and how they see their own body image. This perfect abs and biceps business is utterly absurd
I think this article I saw on the bbc today is wonderful www.facebook.com/BBCLondon/videos/2163580103683675/

PrincessPear · 19/07/2018 14:35

As someone said, there’s multiple ways to look fake. I get told I look like a porcelain doll and get comments about it. I’ve had both positive and negative comments about “looking fake”.

MarthasGinYard · 19/07/2018 14:35

Many say natural but actually prefer plastic fake types if they're honest.

princesstiasmum · 19/07/2018 14:35

My brother objected to his wife wearing makeup, but had other women
caked in it, Double standards or what

Bumpitybumper · 19/07/2018 14:41

@MissCherryCakeyBun
Apologies I obviously misconstrued the tone of your other post. I agree completely.

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Arealmanithink · 19/07/2018 14:43

Wow.. I presented a male opinion and was ignored.. Interesting. Please don't pretend to be inclusive any more. Things have changed..Hmm

Mogleflop · 19/07/2018 14:43

I don't wear makeup, and don't enjoy looking at it either, so I completely get what you're saying OP - but I have to admit, some of the comments on this thread (and others like them) make me uncomfortable with how much they put many women down for their appearances.

I'd bet half the attractiveness of people who look "fake" is also in their confidence - in the fact that they're clearly actively trying to be attractive and engaging. It probably helps!

PrincessPear · 19/07/2018 14:46

Wow.. I presented a male opinion and was ignored.. Interesting. Please don't pretend to be inclusive any more. Things have changed..Hmm

I think that is the most precious, whiny post I’ve read lol.

Bumpitybumper · 19/07/2018 14:46

@Arealmanithink
Confused Yes we should all automatically acknowledge that man has blessed us with their presence and opinions on this thread.

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JaneJeffer · 19/07/2018 14:47

I presented a male opinion and was ignored aww diddums

Mogleflop · 19/07/2018 14:48

Are you a nice guy by any chance? Grin

TruffleShuffles · 19/07/2018 14:50

Pressed post too soon! I’ve just gone back and read your comment and I don’t agree with it at all. You talk as if surgery is some sort of unattainable thing but nowadays it just isn’t. It’s not just for the insecure, my nail salon has people come who offer lip fillers, face fillers, microbladind and the like.

Trinity66 · 19/07/2018 14:52

Some men for sure like the fake look, and more disturbing, I’ve heard a couple of men say they like this look not because they think it’s more attractive, but because they like a woman to put themselves through extreme measures just to please males - makes the men feel powerful or something. Completely gross

Really? That's pretty gross alright.

Vitalogy · 19/07/2018 14:52

The awakened ones don't. If you can't find one of those then stay on your own. Maybe if we all did that they'd have to start upping their game.

TooTrueToBeGood · 19/07/2018 14:54

The fake look is an absolute turn-off for me and about the only thing that is. I'll tell you why. The more obsessed someone is (man or woman) about their outward appearance the less depth they invariably have to their personality. So if I see someone who's obviously gone to town with nips, tucks, implants, botox, fake tan, stupidly white veneers etc etc I can be pretty damn sure they're not someone I'm going to find attractive should I get to talk to them.

As for Love Island, I have sadly seen it briefly as it happened to be on in the background and I was too busy reading to be arsed changing the channel. It saddens me that having managed to get so many completely self-absorbed fuckwits isolated on an island somewhere the producers are eventually going to let them back into general circulation. An opportunity wasted.

Trinity66 · 19/07/2018 14:54

Yes we should all automatically acknowledge that man has blessed us with their presence and opinions on this thread.

And everyone ignored his order to "debate" his comment tut tut what is the world coming to?

noeffingidea · 19/07/2018 14:54

I presented a male opinion and was ignored
Is this your first time on a discussion forum then? The majority of posts do get ignored, especially on a forum like this that doesn't have a quote function.

CoffeeOrSleep · 19/07/2018 14:55

Does the "look" come from porn - or more the theatre ? Kim Kardashian said she was trained to contour not to look good face to face, but to use contouring in the theatre that looks good in photos, and if you are building a career on how you look in the tabloids/magazines, then heavy photos to highlight your features regardless of the lighting makes sense. The techniques were developed for theatre make up. (Where you need to be able to see face features under bright lights from distance)

Similarly, porn films are usually lower budget than most normal movies, so the lighting quality isn't as good, and heavy makeup to excentuate facial features is more important.

Many woman copy the look when social media took off because looking good in a selfie was more important than how you look face to face with someone. It's much harder to take a good photo with minimal/no makeup than with a strong contour.

It is more than woman like Kim Kardashian and social media lovers have the same need for heavy make up as porn actors. It's only those having well lit films/photos that can look just as good on film/photo without.

That said, there seems to be a move away from that starting - because frankly, anyone can look good in a photo if you have the right make up on, it is much harder to achieve a good photo with no/hardly any make up on, it's becoming more aspirational. (Kylie Jenner getting her lip fillers out is a good example, she's picked up the natural trend is going to be the next big thing and moving towards it so she/her make up brand doesn't get left behind when fashions change).

PrincessPear · 19/07/2018 14:57

The more obsessed someone is (man or woman) about their outward appearance the less depth they invariably have to their personality.

That is absolute bullshit. I don’t suddenly become stupid because I like nice makeup and clothing.

Vitalogy · 19/07/2018 14:58

Arealmanithink Dear lord! I'm not addressing you directly with that statement, just to make things clear there

Mogleflop · 19/07/2018 14:58

On the plus side, whining has got him the validation he desperately needed. Hopefully that's helped!

TooTrueToBeGood · 19/07/2018 15:01

That is absolute bullshit. I don’t suddenly become stupid because I like nice makeup and clothing

No, but you perhaps demonstrate your stupidity by failing miserably to comprehend the meaning of the word "obsessed".