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My boyfriend and baby’s father is looking to travel outside of the country without me during my time of need

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MommaA · 18/07/2018 16:40

My boyfriend is looking to leave the country for a week or two to travel in Ireland. I’m so uncomfortable with it. To give you some background he’s traveling for good reasons which makes me feel guilty. His cousins are going to spread their fathers ashes arcoss their homelands. But it feels more complicated than that. First of all, this is my first pregnancy and his trip would be during my second baby appointment and I really want him to be there considering he wont be for the first. I really need his support. Second, i regrettably admit that he is an alcoholic and recently decided to go to Al Anon. This is the main problem here. Not only will he be missing some of his first meetings but will be traveling with 5 family members that HEAVILY drink every day, so badly that they usually start in the morning or early afternoon. He has relapsed once already recently without the support of AA, and he was with 2 of the people he’s traveling with when he relapsed and I’m so uncomfortable knowing he will be around bad influences in his time of trying to heal himself, especially with a baby on the way. He has a bad habit of lying about his drinking as most addicts do. So i wont even know if he doesnt stay clean. He’s also traveling on my birthday which just makes me sad considering last year he wasnt here for my birthday either. And to top it off he’s spending over $1000 that we need for the baby to do this traveling. He says he’s considering not going but won't tell me for sure even though its less than two weeks away. I don’t know what to think or do. What if he goes? I need him to be responsible, supportive, and also just cognizant of how this may affect his stuggle with this addiction. But i also see how it is a family thing that’s important. Am i being out of line asking him not to go? Please help with advice!

OP posts:
fontofnoknowledge · 18/07/2018 18:53

If you have been together for two and a half years and only just got pregnant, you must have known he was an alcoholic before you conceived and have either deliberately chosen this path or
you made a choice not to take all precautions possible in order to not accidentally have a child with an alcoholic. Up to and including not having sex with him.

You didn't do that - as I assume your wish for a baby is greater than your desire not to have a child in such terrible circumstances.

It was a terribly selfish decision. For your baby.
Having made that decision, and the one to continue your pregnancy (which is quite rightly absolutely your decision) you now owe it to your unborn child to do the very best by them.

The very best is not to subject them to the mood swings, unpredictability and general chaos that is the world of an alcoholic.

Life of a single mum is hard. Life as a child of an alcoholic is horrific. (I was that child).

FishingIsNotASport · 18/07/2018 18:54

And don't worry about raising a 'mini me' of your partner if you go it alone, as someone upthread suggested. Alcohol use disorder is not down to genes alone...…. www.niaaa.nih.gov/alcohol-health/overview-alcohol-consumption/alcohol-use-disorders/genetics-alcohol-use-disorders

fontofnoknowledge · 18/07/2018 18:57

No not down to genes alone.
But a massive massive factor.

Father an alcoholic
Brother an alcoholic
Niece and Aunt alcoholics
All in direct generic line from Alcoholic grandfather.

It's genetic AND learned. If baby grows up to have contact with fathers family - the chances increase exponentially.

BoxsetsAndPopcorn · 18/07/2018 19:17

I'd think long and hard about bringing the baby into the world.

You say you don't want to be a single mum but that's the least of your worries I feel. Are you ready to hand over a child to him as he will be granted unsupervised access. Is that who you want for the child's father?

MommaA · 18/07/2018 21:09

Well everyone, call me irresponsible for sleeping with an alcoholic but honestly thats part of life. I made a mistake by loving the wrong person but that doesnt make my baby a mistake and i wont act like that or think like that. And for any of you who do, honestly thats sad. For you. Not me.

Many of you are right, i dont know why i thought my problem was the timing of traveling, or even the trip itself. the problem is his addiction and knowing that trip would fuel it and maybe make it even worse by getting support from a group that drinks a lot themselves.

Ive been keeping a journal of all the bad things hes done while drunk or under the influence... so when the time comes, for custody talks, that will be readily available for any court system to read and make an educated decision. Do i want my baby to have a fuck up for a dad? No of course i dont. But how many of you can say you have or know someone who has a fuck up for a parent? More than just a few I’m sure, and I'm also sure you dont wish they aborted you because of it. Thats crazy to me. Im not homeless. I wasnt raped. I’m not an addict. I can provide for my baby and i will do anything to keep them safe and healthy. And if that means a custody battle then so be it. Thanks for everyones support, advice, and thoughts.

Oh and Just for the record- i just left him. The verbal abuse was unbearable, especially after hearing what all of you had to say about why i would still even be with him, and i had a window of time so i left. I will be back to our house for my stuff while he is on vacation.

Thanks xoxo

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Ellie56 · 18/07/2018 21:16

Good decision Momma.

choli · 18/07/2018 21:22

I'm so glad you left. I'm sorry if you found my comments harsh, but I've known so many women who put themselves in this position, including my sister.

She was so convinced that if she became ("accidentally" as far as he knew) pregnant, he would change. He didn't. She thought he would change when the baby was born. He didn't. She thought he would change when the 2nd baby was born. He didn't. She went through 7 years of his crap before finally leaving. She did not want to admit that friends and family who tried to make her see sense had been right. When she did leave, we were very careful not to say or to imply in any way that we had "told her so".

She deserved better, her kids deserved better. You deserve better, and your child to be deserves better. Getting out of this relationship now will save you and your child years of grief, emotional abuse and financial insecurity.

I wish you all the best. I hope you have strong supportive family and friends to see you through this time.

OlennasWimple · 18/07/2018 21:24

Good decision Momma

Keep coming back here (or maybe the relationships board - AIBU can be a bit, um, frank at times) if you need support in the coming months

noseoftralee · 18/07/2018 21:26

And that because im crying which means out of control of my emotions that its going to hurt the baby.... i feel like he is being manipulative but i also feel like he could be right.

Lots of shite from partner. He’s guilting you into not questioning his actions and by extension his drinking

Wheelerdeeler · 18/07/2018 21:32

Don't worry about custody. He won't be looking for it.

MommaA · 18/07/2018 22:19

Thanks again. I dont know why i found it so hard to walk away, even with a baby. I guess just super selfish on my part. Part of me is jealous that he can easily go, find a new girl to hook up with and date, have a good time and go on with his normal life, and in the mean time I’ll be unwanted as a pregnant single young woman, not living my normal life in fact living a completely different life. Kinda sucks how that worked out

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Babdoc · 18/07/2018 22:35

Well done for having the courage, strength and good sense to leave him, OP. I’m sorry some of the PPs on here have been a bit blunt in their phrasing, but I think all of them mean well and have your and your baby’s best interests at heart.
You deserve a much more decent partner than a feckless alcoholic. I hope you find someone loving and caring in the future, but even if you don’t, you will have a vastly better life as a single parent than you would as the miserable and suffering wife of an alcoholic.
Big hug, and my prayers for your future happiness. Stay strong.

nakedscientist · 19/07/2018 08:18

Part of me is jealous that he can easily go, find a new girl to hook up with and date, have a good time and go on with his normal life, and in the mean time I’ll be unwanted as a pregnant single young woman, not living my normal life in fact living a completely different life. Kinda sucks how that worked out

OP No, no, no! you are the one with the normal, beautiful life.You have a precious child and a new chance. He has only his addiction and sadly everyone he touches will suffer.

trojanpony · 19/07/2018 08:36

I made a mistake by loving the wrong person but that doesnt make my baby a mistake and i wont act like that or think like that. And for any of you who do, honestly thats sad. For you. Not me

Don’t feel sad for me, my life’s is really rather nice.
I feel sad for your baby and you. Life will probably be hard. You’ve made some bad life choices but you seem to know that and fair play for leaving.

One small tip: I would not name him as a parent on the birth cert. it will give you more options later on if you need them.

Ellie56 · 19/07/2018 08:36

Part of me is jealous that he can ...have a good time and go on with his normal life

The life of an alcoholic is not remotely "normal." You may not think it OP, but you are in a far better place than him. He is just on a downward spiral and incapable of functioning normally.

Seasawride · 19/07/2018 08:46

Don’t put his name on the birth cert op.

So sorry you have to deal with this but you sound strong and sensible Flowers

nakedscientist · 19/07/2018 09:17

trojanpony Don’t feel sad for me, my life’s is really rather nice

If your life is so nice then you are lucky and should have the grace to be kind to those who are in pain.

I think its right for OP to stick up for her baby! Who wouldn't? As for her 'choice' to have a child with an alcoholic, falling in love with the wrong someone isn't obviously easy to spot due to the rose tinted glasses we wear when in early love.

Onwards and upwards OP Flowers.

Starlighter · 19/07/2018 09:23

Well done!

Red flags everywhere with this man! You are worth more than that and so is your baby.

Good luck to you OP Flowers

Babybrainagain · 19/07/2018 09:24

The only valid reason is the drinking. The rest ate a bit pathetic. Spreading ashes trumps an appointment that someone else could accompany you to, and definitely your birthday! However, the drinking would be a problem but I think you're using it as an excuse

CherryPavlova · 19/07/2018 09:27

Goodness. Doesn’t sound like either of you were ready to be a parent but since you’re already pregnant without much consideration of the poor child’s future you’ll have to make the best of it.
You don’t need him at a second appointment. Why would you? Does he go to every doctors or dentist appointment with you?
Most people and their partners are working on their birthdays. Often partners are away. As an adult it’s hardly a big deal. Celebrate at the weekend instead.
The fact he is an alcoholic is a serious issue. He’s unlikely to change without his family supporting him. Are you prepared to remain knowing he’s an alcoholic? What example is that to the child? Does he provide for you? How does he manage work if he’s an alcoholic? You need to become an adult and consider what is in the best interests of the child now.

nakedscientist · 19/07/2018 09:29

cherry

She's left him.

CherryPavlova · 19/07/2018 09:31

Missed that - good!

Jog22 · 19/07/2018 09:32

You're not selfish, just having normal reactions to being pregnant. It is scary and doubly so to feel like you are choosing to do it alone. You won't regret it though. Alcoholics can be charming and lovely people but ultimately you are the mistress to their wife Alcohol.

Be ready for him to be very apologetic and that he loves you and he will definately change because you and the baby mean so much to him. That could be tough. Do come back here, there is so many women with brilliant advice (there's always going to be ones who have an amazing crystal ball it seems and never make mistakes but its good to hear plain speaking too, the truth can be harsh)

ScrubTheDecks · 19/07/2018 20:24

MommaA, are you still on this thread?

If you ever have a second’s doubt that you will e better off single than with him, start a thread (not in AIBU) titled ‘Would you rather have grown up with a single mum than an alcoholic Dad’ and see what responses you get.

You have done the right thing. How dare he pretend ‘family’ is so important that he goes off on an expensive drinking binge (it will be) abandoning the family (pregnant partner) he had and should be supporting? How dare he call you names for not being able to ‘control yourself ‘ when he is an alcoholic?

You are the winner here, OP, you will have a darling baby, the light of your life, he is a sorry abusive self destructive mess.

Seriously, tying yourself to an abusive alcoholic man is a mistake far too many women have made.

Take care of yourself , and maybe post on other boards, not AIBU, for serious and emotional issues.

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