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Aibu to think I'm being being deceived?

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TheExamStartsNow · 15/07/2018 15:33

This is a long post about my friend Mary (Not real name).
Mary and I went to secondary school together in the 1990s. We weren't really close friends, we had some GCSE subjects together and got on ok, but she was absent a lot due to ill health. I don't really know with what, but her parents (her mother really) kept her off school a lot. I think she had glandular fever originally, and there was vague talk about complications from that. I visited her in hospital once, so she was genuinely ill at one point.
After GCSEs we lost contact. I moved to a new area and school with my family, this was before social media or mobile phones was the norm. I only really kept in contact with my best friend, Sophie, via written letters and the odd landline catch up. So, lost contact with Mary.
Roughly 14 years ago, Sophie (who i still have sporadic contact with) mentioned in an email that she'd been in contact via Facebook with Mary. Mary had basically been unwell since we all parted ways at 16, was bedridden through ill-health, was too unwell for visitors, her mother had been her carer but then had tragically passed away herself. So, things pretty dire to say the least. Sophie said Mary had been asking after me and would it be ok to pass on my email address and mobile number so we could catch up. Fine, no problem, of course.

We've been in regular contact since then. Always by email/WhatsApp. She told me she has various health problems, including ME and joint problems. She originally said she's basically a vegetable 6 days a week, but is able to take a class A level drug once a week that allows her to email and message people, catch up on social media etc as her only window to the outside world. So this has been our friendship over the last 14 years. Its mostly fine, but it sometimes feels like a lot of pressure occasionally, because if she messages me but I'm out with friends or on a long-awaited date with my husband or I'm ill and need a early night (or whatever), I still feel obliged to message back and forth with her as she's so dependant on that few hours of interaction. She always maintained that physically being around other people was toxic for her health, so the last time I physically saw her was at 16. Since that point our only communication has been by typed messages.
There's been small signs over the years that she might be not quite right in the head, but I put this down to her being so unwell/Maybe misinterpreting her true meaning etc. There was one incident where she was beside herself, saying (unbeknownst to me) her boyfriend (?!) Dave Had left her for someone else. It transpires she had a boyfriend for years, actually Dave was someone else from our school year who'd she'd stayed in contact with, but one of her other friends (Denise, Also someone from our year) had first off been an evil cow by suggesting maybe the ill health was psychological rather than physical, and had then stolen her boyfriend. I kind of tried to be supportive without getting too involved (which you can't really do when you're only interaction is via WhatsApp anyway). Her messaging can be quite confusing too, which i had rationalized as her being unwell and on meds. But basically, when I probed for how long she'd had this boyfriend and how had they met up, it transpired he'd actually been in a relationship with denise first and Mary either genuinely had an affair with him, or she was convinced he loved her but had actually invented the whole affair. But she genuinely presented this to me as this evil bitch stealing her boyfriend. Weird, but I kind of thought it's none of my business. Also, very juvenile, but I rationalized this as her kind of being trapped emotionally/developmentally at the age of 16 as she'd been bedridden since then.

There is other stuff. Like how she told me she was getting another tattoo. Another one? How have you got any when you're too sick to leave the house or bed and the mere presence of other people is toxic to you? She sidestepped this. Its very easy to do that when sudden pain means you need to leave the chat and stay uncontactable for months.

I've kind of been thinking for a while, is she really physically that ill? Or is it now a psychological problem? She's alluded to strained relationships with her sibling and father, basically that they're liars and cruel and purposely do things to make her sicker, lie to social workers and doctors to get her in trouble. When I probe on why they'd do that, I get vague paranoid statements about her dad's new partner masterminding a hate campaign etc.

The latest is that her (wicked, evil, negligent etc) GP has delisted her as a patient and immediately stopped all her prescriptions. Trying to probe on why this happened just resulted in a massive rant about how they're negligent and have left her without medication that her life depends on, and it's just fortunate that she's been stockpiling meds for a while so can survive but just imagine if she hadn't thought ahead? She would be dead by now. This was all said at the start of this year by the way, but she apparently still survives on the stockpiled meds.

Basically, I don't know where to go with this friendship. I previously thought I was a source of support for a genuinely sick and lonely friend. Now I feel like a sounding board for someone with paranoid delusions. Lately, she has been quite rude to me in messages. Like, I asked if she's had any contact with Dave and Denise or are they still no contact? She replied that she can't contact them because the police told her she's not to??!! I was like "erm... police involvement sounds very extreme, how the hell did things reach that point?" She immediately backtracked by saying "you know the police were involved, I told you at the time, but never mind if you forgot, im sure your life is busy" as if I'm a self centred cow who had been told this but forgot (Not true, I absolutely would not have forgotten that!) But also nicely deflecting answering what the eff she had done that had required police telling her to back off. She then went offline.

A couple of last things. I don't think she knows this function is available, but I can see that she's always the first to view my Instagram stories, no matter what day or time I post. She also recently (I'm assuming by accident) clicked that she was 'interested' in attending my child's parents evening. I had just clicked that myself (Just as I know Facebook will then helpfully remind me that I'm meant to be attending!) And within minutes, it flashed up on my newsfeed that Mary X is interested in attending Year 2 parents evening at xyz school.
Weird, no? Even weirder when she's recently told me that she's not been on Facebook or Instagram since 2012 because she's been too sick.

What do I do? Sorry, I know this has been long and rambling, but I just don't know where or how I proceed? I know she's not really going to track me down and murder me in my sleep if I stop contact, but equally I don't feel right just cutting her off. She is still a friend in need isn't she? Even if it isn't for the reasons she's presenting.
I previously thought there's no harm me just providing a friendly, meaningless chat once a week. But lately she's been pretty rude and snidey to me and I'm just thinking why the eff am I colluding in this nonsense?

I don't know. Well done for reading if you've reached this far. Any advice welcome.

OP posts:
Amanduh · 15/07/2018 15:36

None of this is normal. She is lying. You’re not a ‘vegetable 6 days a week but then take an a class drug and can function fine.’
Cut her off immediately.

WigglyBlossom · 15/07/2018 15:36

What do you gain from this friendship OP?

wellBeehivedWoman · 15/07/2018 15:41

That sounds really rough OP. Whether or not her illnesses are physical or mental, it is obviously taking a toll on you that she relies on you so much.

It's good that you are supporting her, but don't do it at the expense of your own wellbeing. If it's getting too much or if you feel taken advantage of, there is nothing wrong with reducing contact. You don't owe emotional support to anyone.

AmazingPostVoices · 15/07/2018 15:50

Goodness.

You haven’t seen this person for many years.
She clearly isn’t alone, there are a variety of other people in her life.
You don’t really know what’s going on so you don’t know if you are helping or supporting her delusions.
She’s been rude and unkind to you despite your kindness to her.

In these circumstances I’d personally cut her off. Send her a brief note saying that your communication doesn’t seem helpfuto her any longer and then block her everywhere, email, mobile, all social media.

This relationship is upsetting and worrying you. It’s not healthy.

SugarIsAmazing · 15/07/2018 15:51

She's batshit. She probably wasn't unwell whilst you were at school. She was probably sectioned.

I'd personally, because I am just weird, would want to snoop and see if she really was unable to leave the house, but obviously without her knowing.

But I'd still not contact her again.

SandyFagina · 15/07/2018 15:54

Nutty as squirrel shit. Block on all platforms and move on.

AnastasiaVonBeaverhausen · 15/07/2018 15:58

She sounds very troubled.
Makes me wonder what her mum's part in it all was.
My gut reaction to your story is to run a mile and be thankful your only communication is via social media and other apps where you can just block her and move on.
Have you shared your suspicions with Sophie? Does she have any thoughts?

Madonnasmum · 15/07/2018 15:59

We had someone like that at school, and as an adult she created a very similar story to you. This was before social media etc so it was easy to drift apart to the point no one knows how she's ended up. I think it's terrible, and feel it's some kind of mental health condition. I think she's not telling the truth with the 6 days a vegetable, as how would she then be capable of taking the drug.

Excitedbutrealistic · 15/07/2018 16:00

How did she have a boyfriend if she never leaves the house?

How do you know it's really her you're talking to as well? You haven't seen her. It could be someone playing a joke.

LotsToThinkOf · 15/07/2018 16:07

Block her and end the friendship.

DiseasesOfTheSheep · 15/07/2018 16:08

Um, being sectioned is still being unwell!

But yes, I'd distance myself from this one, I think.

KittyVonCatsworth · 15/07/2018 16:08

She’s either being deceitful about her illnesses or she’s genuinely ill and living the life she should’ve been living. Either way it sounds like an exhausting friendship and all give. I’d slowly cut contact xx

Hellywelly10 · 15/07/2018 16:10

She could be mentally unwell, she may not even be mary?

Arum51 · 15/07/2018 16:13

Glandular fever can cause serious side effects in some cases, particularly if the person was mistakenly given antibiotics at the time. I know, because youngest developed a form of rheumatism this way. Ends up in hospital, constantly having to take different drugs, etc. However, she pushes through most of the time, despite getting very painful episodes. It's a form of auto-immune disease.

Sounds like this is what happened to your friend, except she isn't able to get on with her life. It's physically painful, so yes, she may have to spend a lot of time in bed, and take drugs to manage things. As this has been going on for years, she also appears to have developed severe mental health problems as a result. Much of what she is telling you may well be true, just filtered through the lens of her mental illness.

Only you can know if you're willing to continue this or not. It really depends on how much of an impact it's having on your life.

user1467232073 · 15/07/2018 16:16

This is quite disturbing. At the risk of sensationalising this I would start by telling her you have some family issues and then slowly withdraw contact due to the ‘personal issues’. I think if you completely cut her off you may risk receiving online abuse (or worse) from her. X

Vickyyyy · 15/07/2018 16:16

None of this sounds normal to me. I have a longterm illness that requires me to take morphine which is apparently class A, used to be tapentadol and before that oxycodone. Now, I don't know what illness she actually claims to have, she might be like me where its undiagnosed as such, however I just cannot see how you could be a vegetable 6 days a week and fine on one day. Unless she is keeping all her medication to take in one dose, which means shes basically abusing it. From time to time I will take a double dose if the pains really bad, but I could not if I tried save up a whole weeks worth to take at once (the only reason I can think of for this is to get high, rather than for the pain relief)

The affair thing sounds wrong too.

And basically it sounds like you get nowt out of this friendship anyway, so I would cut her out, personally.

Gemini69 · 15/07/2018 16:22

Block her and don't look back .. do it NOW

Roussette · 15/07/2018 16:26

Get a piece of paper. Draw a line down the middle. Write pros on one side, cons on the other.
Fill it out in answer to the question 'what are the advantages/disadvantages of this so called friendship'
There will be nothing on the pros side of the paper, everything on the cons.

I would tell her you are coming to see her. If she refuses (which she will) cut contact. There is no need for any reason, she has been pulling your strings with lies and delusion for 14 years.

You might not even be communicating with the person you think you are and you'll never know because she won't let you see.

Cut contact

AcrossthePond55 · 15/07/2018 16:29

I think I'd either go low contact by not starting any convos or asking 'how are you' and replying in one or two words to her messages i.e. 'so sorry' or 'that's too bad'.

She's getting something out of your interest in her life. I think if you stop showing any interest or asking about her or asking followup questions to her stories she'll start to look elsewhere for validation.

Or you could just block her. Is there any real reason to keep in contact with her?

cmlover · 15/07/2018 16:31

sounds like instead of being I'll 6 days a week and only able to talk one day, I would imagine she's ethier in prision or a health faciliate that she has freedom one day a week.

ethier way inwould email and say due to your own health you are unable to keep this relationship goimg and you wish her well

Mummyoflittledragon · 15/07/2018 16:32

ME doesn’t work like that regular as clockwork once a week. I’m baffled as to what class A drug she’s being given/is taking. I have had cannabanoids but that would be class B. And I had mine legally. It sounds as though she has some mental heath issues.

TheExamStartsNow · 15/07/2018 16:34

I haven't seen Sophie for maybe 10 years, she's moved abroad. I think once, probably about 8 years ago, I asked whether she spoke much to Mary and she said they'd lost contact again. I asked again last year when all this Dave & Denise stuff happened, as I know Denise and Sophie are Facebook friends. She knew nothing about that pallaver, and again said she lost contact with Mary, around the time she passed my number on to her. Not sure if Sophie pretty much foisted Mary on me to escape! half joking there

Those suggesting she's not really Mary, that would be an amazing plot twist, but seems impossible. I've posted stuff to her childhood address that she's received, she sends me pics of her sister and neice who aren't on social media. Plus she has contact with a couple of others from school, so it would be an elaborate rouse that has spanned over a decade for no discernible gain.

I've thought about contacting Denise to see what her side of the story is, but I guess it's none of my business either way.

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frogface69 · 15/07/2018 16:35

I think you are being catfished. Block. Ignore.

rosesandflowers1 · 15/07/2018 16:37

She sounds like she has some very severe MH problems. Is it possible that you can report her to someone as needing help? Whether or not her physical sickness is real I think she might need some help for her psychological problems.

In regards to sustaining the 'friendship', if must be very mentally draining OP. Cut her out if necessary. If you want to sustain it, new rules - don't allow yourself to feel obligated to reply.

ReevaDiva · 15/07/2018 16:38

I inadvertently made a friend at the school gates who ended up a bit like this.

She'd turn up in tears at my door; everyone hated her, lied about her, misunderstood her. I gradually withdrew because I found out from others that she was the instigator of all of her own problems.

She just appeared today, has moved two doors down from me Hmm

Trust me, withdrawing from her life will be much much better for you. She's an emotional vampire.