To think people who overtake are idiots?

[sallyhansen32]

So this morning I was out early.
I was on a road with a 30 mph limit..there's a speed camera next to a school.
I'm new to driving so didn't want to go crazy so I dropped down to 25mph till I passed through it.
A van overtook me and stuck his fingers up.
Was I going to slow?
If I was then fair enough ..but it's not like I was going through under 20.

I agree! Driving slowly doesn't necessarily mean safe...

and we know other people don’t leave enough space.

Then they are the ones causing the accidents.

Put your P Plates on.

National speed limit is 70mph on dual carriageways
They were not talking about a duel carriageway so the limit is 60.

@Blackness78 the op has mentioned several times that she has p plates on the car

Isn't it common courtesy to move over when others are joining from a slip road (if you can of course)? Otherwise the person on the slip road has to do an emergency stop and then go out from stationary. Hence most people move over if they can when a slip road is approaching

It basically works like this.

Sorry Queen. I dipped into the thread while I was a bit distracted. Ignore me!

Isn't it common courtesy to move over when others are joining from a slip road (if you can of course)? Otherwise the person on the slip road has to do an emergency stop and then go out from stationary. Hence most people move over if they can when a slip road is approaching

It’s the joiner’s responsibility to slot in, technically. And the PP didn’t say anything about seeing people joining, just that they move over whenever they see a slip road. Which is probably unnecessary a lot of the time, and results in the road being unnecessarily narrowed, which impacts on speed and gaps between vehicles, which then ripples back and causes a traffic jam.

She said she mostly does 60. What is the matter with you? You seem to have some bizarre obsession with criticising the way others drive, even when there is nothing wrong with it.

How do you know there is nothing wrong with it?

I have cause to check dashcam footage several times a week. Some of it I upload to the police. But the amount of shitty driving I see every day is shocking. If you want to drive ridiculously slowly, do it in your own time.

@CanWeRewindTimePlease obviously fast enough to come up behind op and start over taking her

The op has shown the picture of the road that she was driving on, the parked cars at the side. To be honest I would have eased off the accelerator too regardless of the speed camera as you don't know if a child could come running out between those parked cars, it's just not worth the risk

I get it op you are a new driver and you probably just lack confidence rather than not being able to judge how to use your acceleration. You will gain confidence and get used to your new car soon.
Recently I had a courtesy car and I was surprised by how well I could drive it as I expected to not be able to be comfortable driving it with it not being my usual car that I drive 7 days a week. It was perfectly fine, I guess its down to 3yrs driving experience.

It's not the car but the driver.
Not all overtakers are knobs but it is something you are just going to have to learn to ignore it as it happens alot and it's more than usually people who tend to break the speed limit/in a rush.

Nothing wrong with pootling along a little short of the speed limit aslong as it isn't doing 35 in a 60mph road where its near impossible to overtake, for example.(gives me rage).

Quote from the Highway Code). driving too slowly or braking without good cause is an offence, coming under the scope of ‘inconsiderate driving’. This is defined as driving a vehicle on a road or in a public place without reasonable consideration for other people. In order to prove that you're guilty of this offence, prosecutors must show that another driver was actually inconvenienced by your driving.
The reason it’s classed an offence is that a car that’s travelling far below the speed of the vehicles around it can create a hazard for other road-users, as it’s unusual and unexpected. At the very least, a dawdling car causes concern as other motorists wonder what other unusual driving behaviour might be exhibited by the driver. HGVs may also be motivated to overtake, which can contribute to congestion as they’re slower than cars.

You do realise she's new to driving don't you or didn't you read that part. It's usual for new drivers to be hesitant and cautious as they get used to driving a different car to the one they learnt in and getting used to driving on their own. A little compassion and patience goes a long way

OP you shouldn't be cautious driving at 30mph after passing your test. You should be confident. It's quite concerning that people who have just passed their test don't know how much pressure to apply to the accelerator.

typicallynorthern of course you go slower round bicycles etc and give plenty of room, but most drivers, new or old, consider this.

One of my bugbears is people who move out from the left lane to let another vehicle join from the slip road, and make the traffic in the right lane slow down. Changing lanes simply because a slip road is coming up is dangerous, nobody will expect you to do that if the slip road is empty.

Another bugbear is people who join from slip roads and expect the vehicles on the road to slow down (annoying) or move over (ofter dangerous) to let them in. I'll happily move over if the lane to my right is clear, but if it ain't, GIVE WAY like the signs and the road markings say!

OP, the van driver was being a dick.

If you don't match the flow of the traffic ie you habitually drive at 5mph below what everyone else is driving at, you will bring about lots of overtaking manoeuvres, and one day you will cause an accident.

Edinburgh has 20mph speed LIMITS and I love it. My road has a High School, a Primary School and a Nursery School. Even with speed bumps folk in 4x4's would budump over the bumps at 40+ mph. On a street full of kids on scooters, bikes, walking buses. And 15 year olds wandering into the road whilst texting.
I try to drive at 20 because I get the stats about survivability of being run over at 20 rather than 30. City streets, at least where I live, were designed for people not cars.

@pinklemonade84
Yes because he was joining a 30mph road and was going 30mph- he wouldn't expect to catch up to someone dawdling along at 25 for absolutely no reason.

If you want to drive ridiculously slowly, do it in your own time.

Eh? I'm not on the clock - it is my own time.

And I don't drive ridiculously slowly. And there is no suggestion that the poster you mention moves over at an inappropriate speed. You made that up.

Edinburgh has 20mph speed LIMITS and I love it.

The limit may be 20mph but the vast majority of people don't drive at 20mph on the main roads though . The police might as well have told the council they won't be enforcing it as 20s should be self-enforced, the council owned bus company didn't even change their timetables which basically meant they're expecting journeys to be completed in the same time. Police, ambulances, etc all still drive at 30mph. It was a massive waste of time and resources but perhaps a positive is that it's much rarer to see people speeding over 30mph now- most people will drive at 30mph which is nicer. You do still get the odd wanker who drives at 30mph, spots a camera and slams on to 18mph as they mustn't realise the cameras are all at 30mph. I'd love to see how the van driver would react to that one

I don’t think someone with 4 days driving experience has the right to moan about other drivers. Given your inexperience I’m guessing you were driving badly and that’s why the other driver got frustrated with you.

Claire - whatever your career is your clearly in the wrong one ...bit of mystic meg work going on there...

And regardless if someone has been driving 4 hours /4 days/4 years ...nobody has the right to swear it someone.
Especially for going 25 in a 30.