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To think people who overtake are idiots?

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sallyhansen32 · 15/07/2018 08:36

So this morning I was out early.
I was on a road with a 30 mph limit..there's a speed camera next to a school.
I'm new to driving so didn't want to go crazy so I dropped down to 25mph till I passed through it.
A van overtook me and stuck his fingers up.
Was I going to slow?
If I was then fair enough ..but it's not like I was going through under 20.

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GardenGeek · 16/07/2018 19:01

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Picklesandpies · 16/07/2018 19:02

Everyone! I think @TittyGolightly might actually be the Stig!

pogostick · 16/07/2018 19:02

You will meet many more dicks on the road - this is just the start of it.
I would advise a dash cam covering your front and back.
I am a community nurse and drive past two school - one on each side of the road, daily, when there are school children spilling out on to the pavement. There is a 20mph limit. I get overtaken about twice a week, at speed, horn blaring, flagging me off, swerving past the lolly pop lady. They are too busy to be bothered about hitting a child.

Pengggwn · 16/07/2018 19:08

TittyGolightly

It doesn't matter whether your DD is flying jets or driving a milk float. The attitude you are displaying here - that speed is better and you should only slow down if absolutely necessary - will make her a dangerous driver. I suspect you have been lucky.

SoupDragon · 16/07/2018 19:12

You don’t think under confidence is dangerous?

Nowhere near as dangerous as over confidence, no.

SoupDragon · 16/07/2018 19:13

Rather blows your theory

It really doesn’t.

TittyGolightly · 16/07/2018 19:17

The attitude you are displaying here - that speed is better and you should only slow down if absolutely necessary - will make her a dangerous driver. I suspect you have been lucky.

Because I think people should try to drive at the assessed limit of the road, unless there are appropriate reasons not to rather than at 2/3rds or 5/6ths of it. Okaaaaaaaaay.

Pengggwn · 16/07/2018 19:18

"assessed limit", Titty. It means the highest speed that is allowed. It doesn't mean the speed you should go at.

Hamiltoes · 16/07/2018 19:19

I don't think 'they won't rush me'; I think, they won't make me drive faster than I believe is safe.

You keep spouting this and it gets me more annoyed every time I read it because I was frequently stuck behind numpties like you who think it's your god given right to police the roads. Will drive at 45mph through the bends and then speed up to 60mph on the long straight forcing the queue behind to hammer along at 80mph to get past you. If I want to drive at 70mph on a long straight road I know like the back of my hand in sunny conditions then that's my perogative and you should pull over or slow down so the queue can get past you as quickly as possible. How can you not see that as the decent thing to do? It's baffling.

Also, as I've said to you before (and you didn't reply) if you were to pull that shit on a driving test i.e diving slow because you feel safer and not to the limits you would fail it. So you can keep believing it's acceptable but it's really not.

Pengggwn · 16/07/2018 19:23

Hamiltoes

All your post shows is that you can't police yourself. No-one "forces" you to go along at 80mph. Let's just hope you don't kill anyone.

As for my driving test, I passed it. I am perfectly capable of driving at an appropriate speed, and I do so. What I do not do, is speed up for selfish dickheads behind me, who want me to go at the speed they believe they have some sort of right to blast along at.

Well, you don't. So good luck sitting behind me.

lily2403 · 16/07/2018 19:25

It can be frustrating driving behind someone's who is going below the speed limit, if your are going slow you should expect to be overtook safely but not aggressively...perhaps you should put a P plate on your car, I know I tend to give people a break who have this as we have all been there...same with L plates I always keep my distance

Hamiltoes · 16/07/2018 19:37

What I do not do, is speed up for selfish dickheads behind me, who want me to go at the speed they believe they have some sort of right to blast along at.

So you can choose the speed you want to drive at but anyone else who wants to choose their speed is a selfish dickhead? Because you believe you have some sort of right to drive as slow as you want to? Your argument is bullshit. Drive to the conditions, if they're good you should be driving to the limit. I repeat if you drive consistently at 24-25mph on a 30mph you would fail a test, as you would for doing 45-50mph on a long straight bit of 60mph road. Argue with me all you want but those are the facts!! I was warned by the examiner myself, on a 30 in the afternoon when kids were everywhere.

IgamOgamJones · 16/07/2018 19:37

What about those drivers with that pathetic 'the closer you get the slower i go' stickers on their cars?? Deliberately antagonistic I reckon! I drive at the limit but like to put my foot down when safe to do so. Those bloody bastards who chug along at 40 no matter what the speed limit and have those fuckin stickers on, well, they can be quite 'frustrating'!

Pengggwn · 16/07/2018 19:40

Hamiltoes

Do you struggle to read? I have already said that if I want to go along more slowly than necessary, I will pull over. However, if I want to go at a speed which is reasonable for the conditions, I won't. Why should I?

Hamiltoes · 16/07/2018 19:50

Because what you judge to be reasonable for the conditions might not be what other people judge- i.e they know the road better or are just better drivers!

Pengggwn · 16/07/2018 19:56

Hamiltoes

Then, when they see an opportunity to overtake me, they will obviously do so without difficulty. If I am driving that slowly, it shouldn't be an issue.

manicmij · 16/07/2018 20:00

Can't understand why anyone would think they were "stuck behind you doing 25 in a 30 mph zone. The speed limit is a maximum you are allowed to drive not compulsory and in the kind of zone ie school you were in that seems reasonable. Overtaker is an idiot and there are lots of them about on the roads..

throwcushions · 16/07/2018 20:06

Hamiltoes, just curious: where do you draw the line? I can see that if you are clearly holding up traffic then you ought to pull over (as per the Highway Code) but surely if I am going say 55/60mph on a windy NSL road (perhaps slowing for corners) and you want to go 65mph then it is not reasonable for me to lengthen my journey by pulling in? That is a lot more inconvenient for me than it is for you to go slightly slower at corners than you might otherwise. So where would you draw the line? If you are comfortable at 70mph on a NSL road and someone behind you wanted to drive 75mph - would you pull in?

Hamiltoes · 16/07/2018 20:16

Throw I don't suppose there is any hard and fast rules, it was more Pengs hard and fast "I refuse to pull or slow so dickheads can speed" statement that got my back up, like it's their god given right to police the roads.

I started a job 1hr country road drive away and while i was still getting to grips with the bends I'd pull over for a queue. Normal commute when I was driving to the limit if someone approached from behind (so clearly taking the road faster than I was) I'd wait for one of the long straights, indicate left and slow to maybe 45-50 so they can get passed quickly. It was kind of a common courtesy on that road and most frequent drivers did the same. It was also a tourist destination thought and you could spot them a mile away because they'd take corners at 40mph and speed up to 60 the second the hit the long straight. Perfectly legal but still an arsehole move in my eyes.

QueenUnicorn · 16/07/2018 20:21

If I want to drive at 70mph on a long straight road I know like the back of my hand in sunny conditions then that's my perogative and you should pull over or slow down so the queue can get past you as quickly as possible. How can you not see that as the decent thing to do? It's baffling.
Then you would be driving illegally as the speed limit is 60mph.....

SharronNeedles · 16/07/2018 20:27

National speed limit is 70mph on dual carriageways

Hamiltoes · 16/07/2018 20:28

And the police would be quite right in arresting me, it's not up to the general public to determine that because they feel safe at 55mph on a 60 the person behind them has to (which is what I was saying, not that 70mph was legal- but thank you for that gem of information Confused)

Pengggwn · 16/07/2018 20:32

Hamiltoes

But it isn't up to you to insist that a person moves aside for you. If they are moving at an appropriate speed, there is no requirement for them to do so.

Pengggwn · 16/07/2018 20:33

it was more Pengs hard and fast "I refuse to pull or slow so dickheads can speed" statement that got my back up, like it's their god given right to police the roads

How is that me trying to "police the roads"? I may not be facilitating your speeding - why should I? - but, assuming you are able to overtake, nor am I preventing you from doing anything. You are not entitled to have other people move out of your way!

pinklemonade84 · 16/07/2018 20:48

Hamiltoes why should people move over just so you can break the speed limit, like you seem to be parading around here?

Then again, I’d probably sooner move over so that I didn’t have an idiot like you driving behind me!

Your comment about Pengggwn “policing the roads” is a little bit hypocritical don’t you think? Seeing as you want people to move over just so you can carry on speeding

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