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WIBU to delete someone off my FB for sharing Irish 'jokes'...

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FourFriedChickensDryWhiteToast · 13/07/2018 12:03

You know how years ago people used to tell really unfunny jokes based on the premise that Irish people were stupid/alcoholic/ terrorists?

Well it pissed me off 30 years ago but in general these days people no longer tell Irish 'jokes'.

so there is this English woman on my FB that I worked and lived with years and years ago. I hardly know her as an adult tbh as we were teens back then.<

Anyway so she shares this meme that is so unfunny, I didn't even smile. Something about 'Paddy' and a lorry of turf, and him wanting to send his lawn away to be cut. 'What's dat' says his mate...

So we have the 'funny accent' and the purported 'stupidity' of the Irish being shared as hilarious.

One of the women who 'liked' it is Jewish! (I knew her back then too) Imagine if I shared a Jewish joke!!? (well I wouldn't but it would go down like a sack of shit, and rightly so)

It is a little personal to me as my dad is Irish, spent his working life as an academic. So these kind of jokes piss me off. Especially in 2018.

WIBU to defriend her and tell her why? or would that be an over-reaction?

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obviousNC101 · 13/07/2018 12:18

Why are you even asking? Just delete her if you don't like it.

FourFriedChickensDryWhiteToast · 13/07/2018 12:19

I don't know, I think I might suffer from 'wanting to be liked' too much.

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IamaBluebird · 13/07/2018 12:25

You could tell her you find it offensive if you want to. Sometimes people share these things without even thinking.

I'm Welsh and if I had a pound for every sheep shagging joke I see I'd never have to work again.

Somerville · 13/07/2018 12:26

The anti-Irish sentiment has grown lately, unfortunately. It's because the reality is sinking in to leave-types that the UK shares a land border with the EU, stuffing up the kind of Brexit they thought they could get. Somehow this is Ireland's fault. Hmm

Sometimes I go into a spiel about "Irish jokes" coming about after the British had starved the population out of their homes, so that a load of us emigrated over here, traumatised and desperate. Funnily enough there was a fair bit of drunkenness and fights. No stupidity though - despite having our language and names banned by the English, we generally speak their language better than they do (Irish poets, novelists and playwrites are over-represented in published literature).
Generally though, I just unfriend.

ShatnersWig · 13/07/2018 12:28

I have many Irish relatives and Irish friends, many of them in their 70s now. My late grandfather was Irish but lived over here most of his life. He told more Irish jokes than anyone. He found them hilarious. You don't, so just unfollow.

FourFriedChickensDryWhiteToast · 13/07/2018 12:31

Shatners - 'my grandad told racist jokes so it's OK' is it?

Anyway I just commented 'bye' and deleted her.

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Somerville · 13/07/2018 12:33

"My black friends sometimes call each other the n-word, so it must be fine."

CambridgeAnaglypta · 13/07/2018 12:33

Are joke banned now?

TheHalfBloodPrincess · 13/07/2018 12:34

I’m half Irish and I find most Irish jokes funny (Englishman, Irishman, Scotsman etc)
I’m also blonde and there’s a million jokes at my ‘expense’ but I just laugh along.

Life’s too short to take offence at every little thing. If you don’t find it funny then delete.

RhubarbRhubarbRhubarbRhubarb · 13/07/2018 12:34

Exactly what Somerville said. I recently heard my friend being accused of being a “typical Irish, hating on England”, because she said that Sterling wasn’t playing well one day while watching the football Confused. She loves football and had supported England the whole way through. It was a really venomous response to a genuinely innocent comment.

Somerville · 13/07/2018 12:35

Who said jokes are banned?

People can say whatever they like, short of inciting racial hatred. But they can't have an audience just because they want one.

RhubarbRhubarbRhubarbRhubarb · 13/07/2018 12:36

I’m a right mixed bag in terms of heritage, but I grew up in Ireland and I hate Irish jokes. Just like I hate Scottish and Welsh jokes fwiw.

swimmerlab · 13/07/2018 12:36

Same as ShatnersWig, my Irish relatives tell Irish jokes and appear to find them hilarious!

You need to do whatever feels right for you.

Amalfimamma · 13/07/2018 12:38

I'd have written a really insulting anti English joke and if she said something I'd have asked her innocently "oh aren't we role-playing at being racists /cunts/ hateful bastards? My mistake"

What's sauce for the goose and all that.

FourFriedChickensDryWhiteToast · 13/07/2018 12:40

nobody said jokes were banned., just jokes that rely on tired old racial stereotypes.

Personally I do know a handful of amusing Irish jokes. but they don't suggest that Irish people are stupid and talk funny.

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RavenWings · 13/07/2018 12:43

I find a great way to deal with these types is to play dumb. "Sorry, I don't get it, can you explain what you mean?" Invariably they're embarrassed when you don't go along with the nudge nudge wink wink culture.

Or write a very insulting English joke back. I bet she can dish it out but not take it Grin

FourFriedChickensDryWhiteToast · 13/07/2018 12:43

Amalfimamma - perhaps I should have, but there aren't really any 'English jokes'.
We have the Welsh being sheep shaggers and talking a funny language, we have the Scottish being tight-fisted, and the Irish being stupid alcoholics who talk funny....

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Amalfimamma · 13/07/2018 12:48

FourFriedChickensDryWhiteToast oh you're not from the 6 then.

There are loads of jokes to use Grin

RavenWings · 13/07/2018 12:50

Ah there's plenty of stuff you could say.

"What do you call an Englishman in the world cup final?" "A referee".

A boastful englishman said " take away your friendliness,your mountains, glens & lochs what have you got?" "england" replied the Scot.

(That's from a quick Google - I'm sure there's better out there! )

I've no real opinions on English people one way or another, but sometimes you gotta fight fire with fire.

FourFriedChickensDryWhiteToast · 13/07/2018 12:50

oh go on, go on, go on...:)

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Amalfimamma · 13/07/2018 12:52

I'll pm them

I'm on my last strike as it is and on the verge of being banned

Somerville · 13/07/2018 12:55

I wouldn't reply with an anti-English joke, but that's because I'm from the north of Ireland, where such humour quickly tips into sectarianism.

My teenage DD put a thing on FB saying she was safely home (England, at present) from NI just prior to the Twelfth. A few friends put eye-roll emojis and others commented that the bonfires and marches are only cultural celebrations and she shouldn't overreact.
So she uploaded the photo she'd taken on the way to the airport, when her cousin drove her past a bonfire, emblazoned with "KILL ALL TAIGS".
Hence, quite few of us are feeling particularly vulnerable at this time of year - especially bad timing for anti-Irish "jokes". (And probably not a coincidence.)

Mayra1367 · 13/07/2018 12:56

I’m Irish and sometimes find it uncomfortable when I have to
listen to Irish jokes . It seems to be generally accepted that it’s ok to tell Irish jokes but not jokes about Asians or black people . As a nation we are probably unique in how we make fun of ourselves but I find the double standards of some people very annoying

Showmania · 13/07/2018 12:57

I’m Irish.

I hate being stereotyped as stupid.

(I have O levels)

I wouldn’t dream of doing it to other nationalities or regions. I don’t care if someone’s Irish friends and relations find Irish jokes funny. I don’t.

Seasawride · 13/07/2018 13:02

RavenWings

English and hooted at them.

Meh mums welsh dads a yank. Heard plenty of thick Americans jokes. And sheep shagger! Heard enough insults about the English on mumsnet World Cup threads.

Ffs if a country can’t laugh at itself it’s a dictatorship.

Chill

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