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AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

Me or childminder?

70 replies

Bbbbbbbb2017 · 11/07/2018 17:12

Oldest DD has has a rash for a week, looks like heat/allergy rash. Took her to gp yesterday to have a look who werent sure, they think most likely an allergy rash but also raised scabies as an alternative possibility but was very much a "long shot". Gave her a cream to help. I asked about younger ds and they said at this stage treatment was unnecessary.

Informed childminders about what the gp said (as they asked me to take her) and they seem to have heard scabies, ignored the likely allergy, done 2 + 2 and immediately banned DS from attending today until he also received treatment.

The gp were quite clear it was only a possibility and werent concerned enough to say to treat him or myself too.

Were the childminders being unreasonable for saying he cant go until i treat him? Im so frustrated with it all!

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MotherforkingShirtballs · 12/07/2018 12:12

Same as Georgie. It suits me and my requirements, it's rewarding, and I enjoy it but it's not easy work, it's not highly paid, and it's not without its downsides whereas your post would indicate that you believe we're raking it in for barely any effort.

MotherforkingShirtballs · 12/07/2018 12:13

Oh and your sweeping generalisation that we all like to moan and complain.....

NotTakenUsername · 12/07/2018 12:23

There is quite a lot of moaning about the job I have noticed. But people do forget all the perks. Basically you get to be a sahm with a bit of pocket money. Win/win.

MotherforkingShirtballs · 12/07/2018 12:27

"SAHM with a bit of pocket money"

I have a degree in early years education. Fuck you and your snobbery, I'm a highly trained professional and I quite honestly pity the childminder who has you as a client.

FourFriedChickensDryWhiteToast · 12/07/2018 12:59

tbh you cant blame the childminder.
But you shouldn't have uttered the word 'scabies' in her presence. Your other child patently doesn't have scabies btw.

vandrew4 · 12/07/2018 13:31

Cm like to moan and complain but at the end of the day it’s good money for not too much work from the comfort of your own home

Basically you get to be a sahm with a bit of pocket money

sweet Jesus. do you people have any idea what being a CM entails? ( obviously not). The levels of ignorance are hardly surprising; I wouldn't expect people to know the ins and outs of someone else's job, but please don't spout this nonsense when you really don't have a clue

NotTakenUsername · 12/07/2018 13:49

I just struggle to understand why someone with a degree who is a highly trained professional would work for £4 per hour. It seems like a strange equation unless the job is very convenient and easy.

FourFriedChickensDryWhiteToast · 12/07/2018 13:51

well I guess it's the convenience of it all, for women. It's work from home that can fit in with their own family commitments.

NotTakenUsername · 12/07/2018 13:51

Sorry not £4/hour, but less than nmw.

MotherforkingShirtballs · 12/07/2018 13:56

As I already said in my previous post, it suits me and my requirements, I enjoy it, and I find it rewarding. I haven't always worked as a childminder and I'm not working at all at the moment but I'll be returning to it for the reasons stated and at some point in future will be looking to expand by moving my business into a non-domestic setting.

Your comment about childminders being SAHMs with a bit of pocket money was utter bullshit, there is far more to the job than that.

vandrew4 · 12/07/2018 14:14

I just struggle to understand why someone with a degree who is a highly trained professional would work for £4 per hour. It seems like a strange equation unless the job is very convenient and easy

my childminding business brought in over £60K last tax year. Slightly more than £4 an hour. And is there a reason why someone with a degree wouldn't want to earn that sort of profit? Or should all CM's be a bit dense?

Wellthisunexpected · 12/07/2018 14:21

I'd have made a judgement call here and not mentioned the scabies, the GP didn't think it was likely and it's more likely to be allergies.

PerryPerryThePlatypus · 12/07/2018 14:38

I love my CM she's absolutely amazing and if anyone thinks it's easy think again.
I think you need a letter from your gp to say it's not scabies, your CM was absolutely right to exclude your ds in case it was.

NotTakenUsername · 12/07/2018 14:56

I think it’s one of those where you moan and complain about the job until challenged and then defend it and sing it’s praises.

I mean, we have one cm claiming to turn over £60k and another struggling to make nmw.

Is that to do with quality of service provided, or business acumen, or postcode, or something else? It’s quite a difference.

If it was a standard £60k a year job I’d understand why people put up with the bad bits, but nmw - what’s the point if it’s so difficult?

Clandestino · 12/07/2018 15:03

@NotTakenUsername, wow, that was supreme twatism you just displayed.
There is quite a lot of moaning about the job I have noticed. But people do forget all the perks. Basically you get to be a sahm with a bit of pocket money. Win/win.
Never heard anything this stupid in my life. And I'm not a CM, just have been a very happy parent with 2 CMS who have been a treasure and fantastic with our DD. It's a bloody hard job.

Bbbbbbbb2017 · 12/07/2018 15:08

Thank you. I think my frustration is mainly that his session starts at 12pm. When at 8.30am they said about not accepting him i consulted with the gp who clarified that as they hadnt even said to treat her for it that it would have been mentioned more as a consideration when trying to work out what it is. Despite me getting the clarification by 10.30am they still refused to accept him.

I only said the word to the childminder as the conversation was when we had just left and over hands free whilst driving and i literally said "they think it is allergies but considered it could have been scabies" so i can understand why they initially were concerned but feel they should have taken him when i checked with the gp.

I had a job interview i had to cancel so was pretty upset and wouldnt have been so bad if it was necessary but it really wasnt.

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vandrew4 · 12/07/2018 15:09

nottakenusername I would hazard a guess that most people have a moan about their jobs at some point. It's rare to find someone who's 100% tickled pink in their job 100% of the time. that doesn't mean that they don't enjoy it overall or find it rewarding.
Not many CM's earn NMW or below. Not where i am anyway.

YourHandInMyHand · 12/07/2018 15:19

As a childminder I couldn't risk allowing a potential case of scabies into my setting. I also understand your frustration with your GP though and personally would be advising you to seek a 2nd opinion today so that if it's confirmed it not scabies then child can attend the setting again.

As for the comments on childminding being a piece of cake and us raking it in. Hmm I know childminders with degrees, I know childminders who earn less than minimum wage and some that make a good living from it.

Childcare rates vary hugely across the country and this is likely what makes the difference in terms of some making more profit than others as we are all held to the same ratios nationwide.

As for the 30 hours funding, many nurseries and childminders are refusing to accept it as their local authorities pay a lower rate and it would mean settings running at a loss. The facebook page "champagne nurseries on a lemonade budget" is full of stories of fabulous early years settings across the country closing their doors as the 30 hours scheme has finished them off financially.

OP I hope you come to a solution with you childminder, I'd definitely seek a 2nd opinion and ask them for a note. I agree the pictures don't look like scabies but your cm is simply doing her job and trying to prevent a potential spread of infection.

MotherforkingShirtballs · 12/07/2018 16:22

I mean, we have one cm claiming to turn over £60k and another struggling to make nmw.

I earn less than NMW but nowhere did I say that I am "struggling". I'm fortunate enough to be on a position where, when I was working, I could be selective about the children I minded and I could restrict my opening hours to times/days that suited me. I have a DC with additional needs so I take on very small ratios, no more than two additional children (additional to my own DC). Two x £4 is £8 p/hr. That's a choice but there are other childminders earning that and it's not by choice either because there isn't the demand in their area or prices are low there or they're restricted in how many children they can take on, etc.

but nmw - what’s the point if it’s so difficult?

It gives me the flexibility I need to be able to care for my child with SN who is unable to cope with childcare outside of his own home, as I already explained when I said the work suits my requirements.

OP, you'd probably be best to have a discussion with your CM about the exclusion and to ask when they will allow the DC back. If they need proof that it is not scabies then ask what proof would be needed.

Tanith · 12/07/2018 23:24

Nottakenusername we are all very bitter about the 30 hours as we’ve seen our colleagues put out of business because of it. Parents who were conned into voting Conservative on the strength of it should also be extremely bitter.

The rest of your post is irrelevant, ignorant goading that just makes you look silly.

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