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Pray for Salisbury

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bunnibearchi · 11/07/2018 08:19

Gosh I feel so much for the people living there and that there is an object somewhere there that contains a deadly nerve agent that anyone could pick up and die from. The police have said they have no idea where it is and just hope once the guy can speak he can tell them.

Must be so awful for parents and for the local economy, I really am praying they find it ok

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JJS888 · 11/07/2018 11:37

I think you are looking for drama if you believe that.

I hate people who say especially a child. Why is it worse than an adult or elderly person?

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bunnibearchi · 11/07/2018 11:40

The police said it would be a danger for up to 50 years if in a sealed container.

That's a foolish thing to say, a child's nervous system is way more fragile than an adults so can't Handel the toxin as well and the chance of survival is way lower!

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Daffodils07 · 11/07/2018 12:17

It is worrying, we had a car taken away from my area a few days ago (not to worry they said) but with the army dressed up for chemical warfare and then wrapping the car up in cellophane people are going to be worried.
Now that Charlie has woken up maybe he will be able to help the police to find out what happened.

AdventuresRUs · 11/07/2018 12:30

Its "especially a child" to me as I would happily go for a walk in Salisbury knowing not to pick things up. I wouldn't take children at the moment as they so easily touch things, hence thinking its tricky for familys. Its not like a random bite or sting is it!?

henpeckedinchief · 11/07/2018 12:40

@lljkk

What the fuck...?

Yes everyone has to die from something but it's not hard to see that having your life cut short and dying in a painful and terrifying way is a bit different from drifting off in your sleep at 90 isn't it?

You going to be ok with it if the next victim is a kid, because hey they had to die from something, right?

Prick.

PortiaCastis · 11/07/2018 12:45

I think something happened at Porton Down

No need to get hysterical

Skarossinkplungerridesagain · 11/07/2018 13:14

Loving being drawn and quartered as performance art.

As an atheist I'm not going to pray but I do feel some sympathy for the people of Salisbury.

5foot5 · 11/07/2018 13:19

They've put out a statement on facebook that youre not to pick up any unusual object.

I bet there is not much geocaching going on in that area at the moment.

Johnnycomelately1 · 11/07/2018 13:29

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LanguidLobster · 11/07/2018 13:47

The bloke is starting to communicate which is brilliant for his family and hopefully that might lead to some more knowledge about where any residual nerve agent might be.

@Johnny that's bang out of order, that's rumours and they didn't expect to find discarded poison from an international incident even if they did 'skip dive' and one of them has died

drudgewithagrudge · 11/07/2018 13:49

I can't believe that a skip or a litter bins has not been emptied for four months. Elizabeth Gardens which is a possible site of the contamination is always very tidy when I go there nearly every week
Salisbury has over the centuries survived plague, fires and other disasters and will do so again.
The best thing you can do is to continue visiting the city and using the local shops.

SilverySurfer · 11/07/2018 14:12

What has praying ever achieved? Fuck all as far as I can see.

Johnnycomelately1 · 11/07/2018 15:22

languid my point is they whatever they picked up was unlikely to be lying around in plain view for months ( hence people are possibly worrying too much about the risk of it impacting then personally) but it being in a skip is quite a possible scenario which could explain why no-one touched it in the meantime. I’m not making moral judgements about taking stuff out of skips. It’s not illegal.

Genderwitched · 11/07/2018 15:32

Why is it worse than an adult or elderly person?

Of course it's more tragic if a child dies than an elderly person, do you really need that explained.

PerkingFaintly · 11/07/2018 15:52

If only, DriftwoodFascinator.

The poisoners of Alexander Litvinenko left the most incredible mess of radioactive polonium. The hotel crockery, room sink and bin, a trail all the way to Germany. Investigators could tell which seat Dmitry Kovtun had sat in, in a car in Germany. Andrey Lugovoi even introduced his 8-yr-old son to the poisoned Litvinenko and had them shake hands. It looks like the polonium poisoners didn't understood what the poison actually was.

The assassination of Alexander Litvinenko: 20 things about his death we have learned this week
In its first two days, the inquiry into the death of Alexander Litvinenko has heard some of the most astonishing evidence ever given in an English courtroom
www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-order/11381789/The-assassination-of-Alexander-Litvinenko-20-things-about-his-death-we-have-learned-this-week.html

Alexander Litvinenko: the man who solved his own murder
www.theguardian.com/world/2016/jan/19/alexander-litvinenko-the-man-who-solved-his-own-murder

SpitefulMidLifeAnimal · 11/07/2018 16:17

Of course it's more tragic if a child dies than an elderly person, do you really need that explained

Well, yes, I do need the reasoning behind that statement explaining because I can't work out how one person's life is worth more than anothers.

5foot5 · 11/07/2018 16:54

Well, yes, I do need the reasoning behind that statement explaining because I can't work out how one person's life is worth more than anothers.

I agree with this^

Genderwitched · 11/07/2018 17:16

It has nothing to do with "worth"

Who would you rescue from a burning building, a child or an elderly person, if you could only rescue one, and neither of them were known to you. I would rescue the child.

malmi · 11/07/2018 17:27

For anyone who thinks that this was something orchestrated/accidentally released from porton down, could you explain whether the initial victims being Russian agents was purely coincidence, or if on purpose then why not find one a bit further away? Why is that more likely than Russia knocking off their traitors like they've done in the past?

MissCherryCakeyBun · 11/07/2018 17:30

Personally I don't think asking an imaginary friend to help will do a lotHmm maybe ask Father Christmas if he can help.
I think yes you are being VU to ask people to "pray"

jennyFromTheRock · 11/07/2018 17:31

What will prayers do?

Clandestino · 11/07/2018 17:37

@bunnibearchi - so it's only worth praying for and worrying when a British citizen is involved?
I feel sorry for the people who got sick and their families. I can also imagine that people in Salisbury are worried about the agent spreading.
However, I can't see where a prayer would help anything at all, other than satisfying my own desire to feel like I'm participating somehow. And it's ridiculous and melodramatic.

Clandestino · 11/07/2018 17:38

@jennyFromTheRock - prayers will give some the warm fuzzy feeling that they are doing something. Even though they in fact don't do anything at all. Very self-centred placebo effect.

SpitefulMidLifeAnimal · 11/07/2018 17:45

Genderwitched What's the reasoning behind your decision? Me, I couldn't choose as I believe both lives are of equal value. I would simply save the person I saw first.

Genderwitched · 11/07/2018 17:53

SpitefulMidLifeAnimal

I would choose the child because they have their whole life to lead, surely it's human nature for us as a society to value and protect our children above all others. If I was such a situation I would always let a child go first, and I'm only 60, hardly elderly, and I can't imagine anyone I know not doing that.