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AIBU or are neighbours CFs?

81 replies

Treacletoots · 07/07/2018 11:08

We live in an old house, in a square shape with courtyard in the middle. We own the courtyard but have to allow access to neighbours over part of it to remove bins.

Historically we all share all the bins and take it in turns to put them out and bring in (some very much more than others...). They are stored, at the end of the courtyard in a separate area with sheds, in various states of disrepair.

Yesterday one neighbour has decided to claim back her bins, and put her number on etc. fair enough. This part we dont mind as she's always the one who doesn't pull her weight so this ownership is a positive step. However she's placed it in our garden, albeit, the part we allow access over.

I think she's being a CF and we need to tell her to put her bins back in the storage area. It's right in the sun all day, and as well as being our land, its directly next to another neighbours patio too. They don't own any outside space BTW, apart from the official bin store.

There's a tiny bit of history with this neighbour. They have previously wrote passivr aggressive notes to us all asking us to be a good neighbour when they deem the bins have been unfairly filled or if we park to close to their van ( parking is tight for all of us) and when we've tried to talk to them it has resulted in a "fuck off' from them.

So. Are we being unreasonable or if not, how do we approach this :/ help!

OP posts:
sunshinesupermum · 07/07/2018 11:09

YANBU

Pancakeflipper · 07/07/2018 11:10

YANBU

IWantMyHatBack · 07/07/2018 11:12

I would just put the bins back in the shared area for now. If they repeatedly move them back, just have a chat with them.

Can't really envisage the courtyard space though, is there a fence?

longwayoff · 07/07/2018 11:12

YANBU YANBU YANBU

Cakietea · 07/07/2018 11:14

You are being unreasonable not to post a diagram of the courtyard layout!

Kochicoo · 07/07/2018 11:15

YANBU. Just tell them (as bluntly or politely as you deem appropriate) they can't leave their bin in your garden. If you want to "check" with them that they realise it's your garden, do that too.

WipeYourFeet · 07/07/2018 11:15

I'd just put the bins back where they should be.
So YANBU
And .... I think we need a diagram Wink

wowfudge · 07/07/2018 11:16

You really don't have to ask, do you? I'm guessing you want to head off any kind of confrontation. Move the bins and call round, tell them what you've done and why, i.e. they have a right of access to take the bins in and out, but not to store them on your land.

BitOutOfPractice · 07/07/2018 11:17

No diagram? Op I'm not angry, I'm disappointed Wink

YANBU by the way. She sounds like a delight.

MsHomeSlice · 07/07/2018 11:18

set fire to her bin, and wheel it under one of her windows once it has turned to a charred melted pile of goo.

I like a bit of provocation.

MissCherryCakeyBun · 07/07/2018 11:25

I would be very tempted to get a cheap bike lock and lock them to the bin store GrinGrinGrin

Unlock it if they ask nicely

Treacletoots · 07/07/2018 11:26

Attached. Hopefully. The issue we have is how they respond, they're incredibly aggressive bit we all have to live together :/

AIBU or are neighbours CFs?
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Treacletoots · 07/07/2018 11:35

Hmm. It WAS attached! Try again.

AIBU or are neighbours CFs?
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Hygge · 07/07/2018 11:44

Do you have to allow them access?

Can they get into your courtyard from their house or do the have to walk around to the bit on the diagram which says route of access?

Because you said she's placed her bins in the bit of your garden you allow access over, but that's not the bit on the diagram that says route of access.

I would tell them they have to use the bin storage area for their bins and use the access route on your diagram to get to it.

mando12345 · 07/07/2018 11:48

Lovely diagram.
YANBU she is a CF.

happypoobum · 07/07/2018 11:55

Put them back in the bin storage area.

If they keep doing it, their bins might mysteriously disappear.....

SeaToSki · 07/07/2018 11:55

Put a note through their door explaining that they cant keep their bins there as it is you private property, and they only have right of access. Then see what happens. If they dont move them, then you move them.

Huskylover1 · 07/07/2018 11:58

Glue the lids shut Grin

Juells · 07/07/2018 11:58

They obviously think that 'right of access' means that the courtyard is common property. I wouldn't bother being polite with them, they're CFs and CFs view politeness as licence to be even bigger CFs.

My sister has a 'right of access' through her garden for the house next door to get bins out to street, so the situation is like if her neighbours decided to leave their bins permanently in her garden.

Involve a solicitor if you get any aggro from them.

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 07/07/2018 11:59

Just to be clear, you solely own the whole central area, not just your private garden?

Juells · 07/07/2018 12:00

I can't believe it's a sunny Saturday morning and my blood is boiling over bins on the property of someone I don't know from Adam 🤣

ApolloandDaphne · 07/07/2018 12:00

Just put them back into the bin store area? If they come to complain tell them politely that they can't keep them in your courtyard.

longwayoff · 07/07/2018 12:01

Slow encroachment and occupation by stealth. Move the bins. Tell them they cant leave them there as it impedes access for EVERYONE. Surely they dont want to fall out with all the neighbours?

Juells · 07/07/2018 12:03

Looking at that diagram, I'm wondering if it would be possible to move the bin storage area to the access alleyway, rather than where it is now? So they'd still be able to walk across your courtyard to reach the bins, but it would make it more clear that they're on your property. Do you own the bin storage area as well, or is it common property?

SmashedMug · 07/07/2018 12:10

Just tell her it's a route for access and not shared storage space.