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AIBU?

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Is my friend using me?

43 replies

rosamundhopelovesdogs123 · 05/07/2018 15:20

I’d be very interested to have anyone’s take on a friend’s behaviour.

We’ve known each other for 4 years, always have a good time and enjoy a shared sense of humour. The problem is that she often asks for favours (which I am happy to help with), but on the rare occasions I ask for anything in return, she doesn’t reciprocate.

Some examples. Until recently I owned a property with a fair bit of land and barns. She asked to use them for product photography for her business, which I was happy to let her do even though occasionally this was inconvenient.

She and her boyfriend would often come round to enjoy the land and lake for fishing and recreation (I was usually based elsewhere). Again, I was happy she was getting some enjoyment out of the property. When I was in situ, I would always offer her a few/many glasses of fizz when she visited and enjoyed our chats. Many bottles were consumed over the years but she never thought to bring a bottle herself. Despite living round the corner, I’ve never been invited to her house for a coffee or a drink.

When I was moving I had organised for the RSPCA to take some good pieces of furniture I didn’t need – one of which was a nice picture which she told me she would like and could she have it. Of course, I said, even though I would have preferred it had gone to the charity if I’m honest.

I had loads of log briquettes in the barn and said she could take some if she wanted. The next day I am driving into the property to find her in the garage, tossing the briquette packets into the back of her huge pick-up truck – she took hundreds. Again, no problem as I had no need for them myself (although the new owners wanted some, also I had other friends who I’d offered them to). Is it OK?’ she asked, tongue in cheek,shall I pay you for them?’ of course I said no but joked that she could `buy me a drink sometime’. Sadly this never happened.

To be fair, her boyfriend did mow a small amount of lawn outside the house. However, he then took the mower away (it wasn’t working very well and he said he’d repair it) and never returned it. The new owner had got in touch to ask if I would leave it as he would fix it himself but my friend obfuscated about its return so I did not pursue it.

Despite all this I feel that whenever I’ve asked for a favour she makes an excuse not to help. A year ago, I was between places (the property I’ve talked about was then rented and I’d just moved out of my other property to do building work). She’d offered to sublet her house to me for a week over Easter (I’d pay her rent) and she’d stay with her boyfriend. But a few days before she just went incommunicado so I ended up sleeping on a friend’s floor (too late to get a hotel, also I have a dog). But I let it go. There was another instance when I asked her to do some minor thing and she again said no.

But the most upsetting thing is that on the weekend I was moving out of the property (I’d cleared most stuff but there was a last minute panic as the buyers had asked for a few more weeks but then suddenly were able to complete on time after all), I asked if DP and I could use her pick-up truck to move the last minute stuff. “Yes you can”, she explained reluctantly, “but it wouldn’t be a good idea as things will blow off”. (!) DP is handy and has tarpaulin and rope etc so this was really just excuses (we wanted to move a mattress and dishwasher).

We had a stressful weekend sorting stuff out and even though she said she’d give a hand she never turned up.

And then a few days later when the danger of my needing any help has passed, she messages to ask if everything is OK. I couldn’t face replying, hence phone calls, texts, messages asking if I am blanking her’. She knew I was fed up because she started making excuses why she couldn’t help, I was waiting for you to ring me’, when the truth was, I’d asked her 3 times.

I’m disappointed that she’d had years of pleasure from this property and enjoyed my hospitality but on my last day, when I really needed her, she made excuses why she couldn’t help. I feel that she is extremely comfortable asking for favours but uncomfortable giving back.

In her defence, she would argue that she gave me a lot of support on the phone when I had tenant problems and she is a good listening ear.

Although I am fond of her and do think she has good qualities, AIBU not to be able to face her anymore?

OP posts:
Dieu · 05/07/2018 15:26

Oh, you poor thing. I would honestly dump her sorry ass, OP. She doesn't have your interests at heart, and is in it for all she can get. As she has proven time and time again. Sorry OP, you sound lovely and very generous, and deserve far better.

krustykittens · 05/07/2018 15:28

The problem is, that everything she did, she did with your permission and you have let a lot of other stuff slide, like never being invited to her house. She probably doesn't think it is a problem as you have never brought it up. It is awful that she let you down about having a place to stay, though and THAT is something I would want to have a chat about.

Dieu · 05/07/2018 15:31

It's just all so one-sided. She is a prize piss-taker, who has taken advantage of the OP big time.

henpeckedinchief · 05/07/2018 15:43

You sound lovely and she is definitely taking advantage. The least she could do after your generosity is pitch in some help now and then. You wouldn't be at all unreasonable to phase her out a bit!

DiscontinuedModelHusband · 05/07/2018 15:50

I'm not sure i could just phase out without saying how i felt.

i'd need to say to her what you've said here.
then if she has no excuse, or reasonable amount of sorrow, then i'd sack her off.

KatharinaRosalie · 05/07/2018 15:51

There's a name for people like that. Cheeky Fucker.

rosamundhopelovesdogs123 · 05/07/2018 15:51

Thank you for your kind responses.
By writing this conundrum down I think I have answered my own question.
I do have a history of allowing people to take advantage but am starting to root it out now and it's very liberating. In my experience, while it's sad to let a friendship go, it does get replaced by something better.
I'm just constantly shocked by how many users there are in the world - and many of them so charming.

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Aeroflotgirl · 05/07/2018 15:58

She is a user, stop doing her any favours. You don't have to let the friendship go, but say no, be assertive and then take it from there.

rosamundhopelovesdogs123 · 05/07/2018 16:00

Hi Discontinued - yes, I normally prefer to be straight with people but on the occasions I have said something, she gets very defensive. I honestly think people generally don't change so it wouldn't be worth the drama and upset. Anyone who thinks this sort of thing is normal behaviour has a rather skewed idea of friendship.

I could have accepted all the odd things but the final straw was not lifting a finger to help in my hour of need. Especially when she of all people had had so much use out of the place. Finally selling up was a HUGE deal for me after 4 years of hell with the property and endless opportunists taking advantage of what was on offer.

However, I take responsibility for allowing it to go on for so long. These things need to be nipped in the bud. I'm a stronger but much more cynical person!

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LeighaJ · 05/07/2018 16:02

Your relationship is a one way street, that needs a road closed sign put at the end of it.

Summersup · 05/07/2018 16:03

I think you were a bit odd in the messages you sent out- apart from not being able to help with shifting stuff, her main crime seems to have been she enjoyed your hospitality but didn't ask you over to hers (would you have gone? did you take a bottle over to hers occasionally?), that she took some logs you told her to help herself and offered to pay (you suggest insincerely, but why did you not say yes then!) and you took some stuff to charity and she asked for a picture but you'd have rather it had gone to the charity (why?!)

I don't think she's that cheeky. Friendships are rarely totally equal, obviously she was a good friend, a good listener and happy to come over to yours a lot (which many people won't bothered).

Perhaps it was all about the facilities, but it does sound like up until this final move, it's been a fairly normal friendship.

It is a shame she couldn't help at the last minute, though and I can see why that would be annoying.

WerkSupp · 05/07/2018 16:05

She is a total user. You don't have to say anything to her if you don't want to. As you say, she'll just deny and get defensive. But you are totally allowed to cut her off, ghost her, blank her, whatever. Personally I'd send her a last message saying I feel used by her, no matter what she thinks, am through with it and don't want to hear from her again. Then block.

Rudgie47 · 05/07/2018 16:09

Get rid of her now, just keep saying you are busy or block her. Just thank god you have got rid of her. Also decent nice people dont ask for favours unless its an absolute emergency.
In future just offer yourself and nothing else to friends that will be enough for genuine people.

rosamundhopelovesdogs123 · 05/07/2018 16:11

Hi Summersup, I think the world is divided into people who prefer people to come to them and people who prefer to go to their friends. I really like having people round but it's also nice to be invited back. I had mentioned I'd love to see her place but she said she had no chairs and couldn't entertain so she obviously wasn't comfortable with the idea so I left it.
I do think it's normal to once bring a bottle in 4 years of being wined and dined though.

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Juells · 05/07/2018 16:11

It is awful that she let you down about having a place to stay, though and THAT is something I would want to have a chat about.

Just gives her a way to make excuses. She's a user.

You sound like a lovely person, and she's taken advantage every chance she had. The mower shows her DP is the same.

Moominfan · 05/07/2018 16:15

You are a lovely friend sadly she is not x

Summersup · 05/07/2018 16:16

rosamund yes, you don't need a reason to move on, and her letting you down about somewhere to live and helping out this weekend are enough.

I just think some of the other stuff is not terribly alarming, in the context of a friendship. I also think you have constantly offered stuff- drinks, logs, pictures, and then been cross when they have been taken up and in the future, if you want things to be more equal, then your role as the 'giver' in this situation needs to change- don't offer so much stuff unless the person has reciprocated from the get go.

spanishwife · 05/07/2018 16:17

Does she know? From reading threads like this, I feel a lot of people wander through life, obliviously taking advantage and leaving a trail of put out friends behind them.

If the friendship is coming to a natural end I would explain why you feel she hasn't been a good friend to you - it'll either kill the friendship or she will realise the error of her ways and she might make more of an effort.

fourmileswide · 05/07/2018 16:21

She's totally grabby and in for everything she can get. Sorry she's taken you for a ride OP.

If I'd liked a picture that a friend was otherwise donating to charity, I wouldn't have just been happy to be given it for nothing, I'd have offered to donate some money to the charity instead. Why didn't she do that?

I've known someone like this for nearly 20 years who I'd helped out on numerous occasions in various ways, but she was never available to help me. It finally dawned on me that the only time I ever heard from her was when she needed something. The most recent time was when she moved house and invited us round for a barbecue and "bring the lawnmower and some paint brushes with you, haha!!!" We didn't take her up on her invitation and she hasn't contacted me since. That was a year ago.

I've recently met another one. Saw her for what she was straight away - she's nice and pleasant enough to you, but I don't trust her an inch not to take the complete piss if she can get away with it.

CityFarmer · 05/07/2018 16:27

Sounds like the friendship has run its course. You both benefited but in different ways. It's absolutely fine to let it conclude where it is now :)

Hissy · 05/07/2018 16:27

I'm just constantly shocked by how many users there are in the world - and many of them so charming.

They HAVE to be charming. otherwise they would get nowhere in their attempts to make use of others would they?

Your relationship is a one way street, that needs a road closed sign put at the end of it. LOVE THIS! very visual

rosamundhopelovesdogs123 · 05/07/2018 16:27

Hi Spanishwife, I agree that it's best to explain why one is dropping a friend. If roles were reversed, I would much prefer to have a chance to put right a misunderstanding and if people don't tell you, you can't do this. However, if someone becomes defensive and angry it's pretty pointless.
Summersup, I also agree that some of the things I've complained about are things I could easily get over, but the most recent let down was too much, even for me. All the guff about the truck being too high' to fit on a dishwasher and a mattress impossible to transport because it would blow off'. And then saying she'd come over to help and not turning up. I'd much rather she'd said, I'm busy this weekend.
however, I concede that her view would be somewhat different and there are usually 2 sides to any story.
Thankfully my other friendships are much simpler!

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ACatsNoHelpWithThat · 05/07/2018 16:29

She's a total user, YANBU to drop her.

aspoonfulofyourownmedicine · 05/07/2018 16:32

Sounds like someone I once had as a 'friend' - well an old neighbour actually. It was always 'can I borrow some washing powder?' 'can I borrow some softener?' 'Do you have any spare teabags' - those were the petty things. The others were she was invited to our wedding as a plus one, our DCs christenings, the first 'friend' to visit our children when they were born - yet none of it was reciprocated - no forthcoming invite to both her children's christenings, no invitation to the engagement party, no mention of her upcoming wedding.

She moved out years ago and my new neighbours are lovely, that's when I realised everything was one sided and how much of a user she was. My DH and I bumped into her and her DP recently and she ignored us and turned the other way, pretending not to see us. I started to piece together what a user she was and realised that she's not the only one in this world either, sadly.

pasturesgreen · 05/07/2018 16:38

Drop her like a hot potato and don't look back, OP. She bloody well knows why you're dropping her (hence the frantic back-pedalling when she realised she'd really pushed her luck), have no regrets.