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AIBU?

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Is my friend using me?

43 replies

rosamundhopelovesdogs123 · 05/07/2018 15:20

I’d be very interested to have anyone’s take on a friend’s behaviour.

We’ve known each other for 4 years, always have a good time and enjoy a shared sense of humour. The problem is that she often asks for favours (which I am happy to help with), but on the rare occasions I ask for anything in return, she doesn’t reciprocate.

Some examples. Until recently I owned a property with a fair bit of land and barns. She asked to use them for product photography for her business, which I was happy to let her do even though occasionally this was inconvenient.

She and her boyfriend would often come round to enjoy the land and lake for fishing and recreation (I was usually based elsewhere). Again, I was happy she was getting some enjoyment out of the property. When I was in situ, I would always offer her a few/many glasses of fizz when she visited and enjoyed our chats. Many bottles were consumed over the years but she never thought to bring a bottle herself. Despite living round the corner, I’ve never been invited to her house for a coffee or a drink.

When I was moving I had organised for the RSPCA to take some good pieces of furniture I didn’t need – one of which was a nice picture which she told me she would like and could she have it. Of course, I said, even though I would have preferred it had gone to the charity if I’m honest.

I had loads of log briquettes in the barn and said she could take some if she wanted. The next day I am driving into the property to find her in the garage, tossing the briquette packets into the back of her huge pick-up truck – she took hundreds. Again, no problem as I had no need for them myself (although the new owners wanted some, also I had other friends who I’d offered them to). Is it OK?’ she asked, tongue in cheek,shall I pay you for them?’ of course I said no but joked that she could `buy me a drink sometime’. Sadly this never happened.

To be fair, her boyfriend did mow a small amount of lawn outside the house. However, he then took the mower away (it wasn’t working very well and he said he’d repair it) and never returned it. The new owner had got in touch to ask if I would leave it as he would fix it himself but my friend obfuscated about its return so I did not pursue it.

Despite all this I feel that whenever I’ve asked for a favour she makes an excuse not to help. A year ago, I was between places (the property I’ve talked about was then rented and I’d just moved out of my other property to do building work). She’d offered to sublet her house to me for a week over Easter (I’d pay her rent) and she’d stay with her boyfriend. But a few days before she just went incommunicado so I ended up sleeping on a friend’s floor (too late to get a hotel, also I have a dog). But I let it go. There was another instance when I asked her to do some minor thing and she again said no.

But the most upsetting thing is that on the weekend I was moving out of the property (I’d cleared most stuff but there was a last minute panic as the buyers had asked for a few more weeks but then suddenly were able to complete on time after all), I asked if DP and I could use her pick-up truck to move the last minute stuff. “Yes you can”, she explained reluctantly, “but it wouldn’t be a good idea as things will blow off”. (!) DP is handy and has tarpaulin and rope etc so this was really just excuses (we wanted to move a mattress and dishwasher).

We had a stressful weekend sorting stuff out and even though she said she’d give a hand she never turned up.

And then a few days later when the danger of my needing any help has passed, she messages to ask if everything is OK. I couldn’t face replying, hence phone calls, texts, messages asking if I am blanking her’. She knew I was fed up because she started making excuses why she couldn’t help, I was waiting for you to ring me’, when the truth was, I’d asked her 3 times.

I’m disappointed that she’d had years of pleasure from this property and enjoyed my hospitality but on my last day, when I really needed her, she made excuses why she couldn’t help. I feel that she is extremely comfortable asking for favours but uncomfortable giving back.

In her defence, she would argue that she gave me a lot of support on the phone when I had tenant problems and she is a good listening ear.

Although I am fond of her and do think she has good qualities, AIBU not to be able to face her anymore?

OP posts:
Coyoacan · 05/07/2018 16:40

I personally think she is a user, but I think there is some very good advice for you going forward. It would be a shame if you lost your generous spirit, but you need to reign it in and be more discriminating.

Orangecake123 · 05/07/2018 16:59

Let her go OP.

Just take longer to reply to her messages, and phone calls. Don't make her a priority anymore.

Lizzie48 · 05/07/2018 17:02

I agree with PPs that she sounds like a user, just taking and not giving anything back. The worst thing, though, is her saying she would help you and then not following through. She should have said no, sorry but she was busy that weekend.

It's sad to end a friendship, but if it's all one-sided it's not really a true friendship IMO. I had a 'friend' who was like that and it was very painful to realise it, but my life was much easier without the stress she caused me.

Angrybird345 · 05/07/2018 17:28

She’s a CF!

Shumpalumpa · 05/07/2018 17:29

Ditch the lich leach

rosamundhopelovesdogs123 · 05/07/2018 18:21

I read once that people treat you the way you treat yourself.
It's true, people's behaviour sometimes reflects our opinion of ourself.
Sometimes, when the same situation is replayed over and over again you have to think, what is my part in all of this?
I recently started seeing an amazing therapist who made me understand that low self esteem was making me put other people's needs above my own. Having that pointed out was completely life-changing - until then, I'd thought I was quite selfish and spoilt (family conditioning).
This understanding doesn't exonerate people's bad behaviour but allows you to see how you may be enabling it. When you change yourself you can change how people interact/respond to you.
I'm a middle-aged woman and only just figured this out but it was life-changing.

OP posts:
Roussette · 05/07/2018 18:28

God she sounds awful.

Reading back your original post, I would've dropped her at the briquette thing. She brought a truck and took the lot, who does that without checking it's OK. Total greed

So glad you've had an epiphany ros. After all you have done for her with years of drinking your fizz, and letting her have free run of a lovely place... she can't even be bothered to put you up for a night or two.

She isn't worth knowing.

troodiedoo · 05/07/2018 18:35

She's definitely a cf. I would ditch her for turning up without a bottle alone. The very thought of such bad manners! Shock

lizzybusy · 05/07/2018 18:49

you sound like a really kind and lovely person. I think that she definitley has been taking advantage of you. I think that she was so selfish not to help you move after you asked her three times! She will never help you when you really need it. So it's pointless pursuing that friendship. I would fill up your spare time with hobbies and classes so that when she texts you can genuinely say that you're busy at the moment. You will meet better friends soon, you deserve nice ones.

52FestiveRoad · 05/07/2018 18:54

Personally I would just not ever reply to her. She knows she has pushed you too far and so she is desperately trying to make excuses to keep you on side. so that you will keep giving and she can keep taking.

BMW6 · 05/07/2018 18:57

I think I would text "Having reflected on the nature of our "friendship" I am done with it. Have a nice life, goodbye".

She has been using you for what she can get and she knows it. That's not friendship.

BMW6 · 05/07/2018 18:58

Oh and of course block her afterwards so you don't get pestered by her trying to hold on to her golden goose.

Juells · 05/07/2018 19:05

I'm a middle-aged woman and only just figured this out but it was life-changing.

Good for you.

Shumpalumpa · 05/07/2018 19:12

"Having reflected on the nature of our "friendship" I am done with it. Have a nice life, goodbye".

And that, my friend, is what they call closure.

KeepServingTheDrinks · 05/07/2018 19:20

Whilst, of course you could do what PPs have suggested; you could wait and see if your epiphany changes the nature of your relationship for the better?

Esp if you enjoy her company.

I do agree she's treated you very shabbily. But (without being blaming), you have enabled it. it would have been easy to have said "oh, actually, other people want those briquettes too, just take 1/2 doz" or "of course you could have the picture. How much do you want to give me for the RSPCA?" etc

But do do as suggested above and cut her off, if that's what would make you feel better.

Mummymummums · 05/07/2018 19:24

You sound very lovely OP. I completely agree she could have brought a bottle every now and then to enjoy with you at yours, rather than drinking yours all the time. In her shoes I'd be very conscious of that and be sure to not keep arriving empty handed.
Possibly if you've never seen her place, it might be she has a reason and is ashamed of either mess/hoarding/etc, but then in that scenario it goes back to the above point about bringing a drink to yours.
Letting you down on accommodation was awful of her. I think I'd have been looking for a proper explanation from her at that point - and if none was forthcoming I'd have cooled things then.
I think there comes a point in life when you find out who's a true friend - the times that often crystallise the situation can be weddings/illness/bereavement and times of need.
When you moved to your new place, did she arrive with a bottle to celebrate? Or flowers? She had after all let you down during the move.
I expect she likes your company, and very much likes the added benefits he friendship brought. But I think you deserve someone who has your back. She won't change - some people are like this. Takers.

SpiritedLondon · 05/07/2018 19:47

She is a cheeky fucker but you have also been very passive through out all of this. It’s very common among friends to bring wine or food when invited to someone’s house but I would certainly have no problem in asking a friend to bring something if they didn’t volunteer. If I knew they were not financially strapped I might also casually comment on “ next time at yours then” in a way that it’s clear what the expectations is. With regards the help offered I would probably have pinned her down to a specific time and get a commitment from her at the point of the initial conversation rather than leaving it in a vague way. If she lets you down she can’t argue that you didn’t contact her. You shouldn’t have to do all that but if you want to remain friends with her might be the only way to keep things equitable.

ApproachingATunnel · 05/07/2018 21:00

Nah, decent people don’t need prompting to be decent. She’s a user, the day you was meant to be staying at hers and she just gone awol would have killed it for me. Not reciprocating and ‘taking’ is one thing but agreeing to help out and then leaving you in shit like that is quite something else. She does not give a flying fuck about you, whether you have somewhere to sleep/are stuck in a difficult situation, she just want to benefit from things you have.

Phase her out, dont have to have a major fall out if you dont want to.

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