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Our list of allies grows thin! Our list of enemies grows long! Trump thread continued.

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TheClaws · 03/07/2018 02:11

The above is a quote from The Lord of the Rings, The Fellowship of the Ring, said by Lord Elrond. At this stage, with POTUS practically pissing off every ally the US has while cosying up with several dictators, it seems quite apt.

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Gumpendorf · 16/07/2018 17:57

If this has been normalised by the end of the week and the GOP start going on about the server and the e-mails, there is no future for US (and thus western) democracy.

My only hope is that Putin led him into a trap that exposed his treasonous behaviour, and that the GOP wake up. I'm not really hopeful.

Minimammoth · 16/07/2018 18:03

He is a fool. I hope that the American people see him for what he is. We need to stay with Europe now.

ohmymimi · 16/07/2018 18:18

The gigantic Orange Oaf is actually promoting that presser on Twitter. Jake Tapper is drawing attention to it for quite another reason Wink

@jaketapper
If you missed it, you really should give it a watch:
Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
Joint Press Conference from Helsinki, Finland: (link: www.pscp.tv/w/bhy5sDFvTlFsTFJub1dwUXd8MUJSSmplb3FFWUJHdyXkIXdvFcy7hHzilfyakJbST4Y-clF9qI73JdjIeiuF?t=1h19m53s) pscp.tv/w/bhy5sDFvTlFs…
6:07 pm · 16 Jul 2018
mobile.twitter.com/jaketapper/status/1018905077208309760

ohmymimi · 16/07/2018 18:25

Brit Hume
Brit Hume
@brithume
Because Trump is unable to see past himself, he sees the Russia meddling investigation as only about him and the collusion claim, and thus calls it a witch hunt. But the investigations are much more about what Russia did, as the House and Senate reports long since established.

mobile.twitter.com/brithume/status/1018863580979105792

ohmymimi · 16/07/2018 18:26

Conversation
Brit Hume
Brit Hume
@brithume
Trump, finally asked whom he believes on Russia interference, gives a vague and rambling non-answer, with renewed complaints about Hillary’s server. Says he trusts US intel but made clear he takes Putin’s denials seriously. Lame response, to say the least.
4:53 pm · 16 Jul 2018

mobile.twitter.com/brithume/status/1018886360546017280

ohmymimi · 16/07/2018 18:35

Weirdly, Hume from poxy Foxy, exactly puts his finger on it. Trump cannot see past himself, it is not in his psychological make up. EVERYTHING is about him. That will never change. We are in a huis clos until he leaves office

lionheart · 16/07/2018 18:55

Oh.

lionheart · 16/07/2018 19:08

Joe Walsh

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This press conference is an absolute disgrace. Trump won't even side with America.

What Trump did today was commit treason. He cannot be supported anymore. He is a clear & present danger to America. Republicans can no longer be quiet.

I won't be quiet. I am done with him.

John McCain

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Today’s press conference in #Helsinki was one of the most disgraceful performances by an American president in memory.

My full statement on the #HelsinkiSummit:

lionheart · 16/07/2018 19:09

Jeff Flake

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@JeffFlake

I never thought I would see the day when our American President would stand on the stage with the Russian President and place blame on the United States for Russian aggression. This is shameful.

ohmymimi · 16/07/2018 19:28

It is a bit odd there is so much fan fluttering and retiring to fainting couches over this ridiculous oaf's European sortie. OK, I know I can huff ineffectively with the best of them, but what did they think would happen? That is who he is.
He totally exposed himself today. Anyone who defends him now can have nowhere to hide. Heavens knows what went on unrecorded during that 2.15 hr session.
Bet Maybot is feeling pretty happy with herself tonight, not. Eh, Theresa - proud of yourself? Hmm

ohmymimi · 16/07/2018 19:31
  • In the media, that is. Not us lot. Letting off steam on here is therapeutic.
lljkk · 16/07/2018 19:33

Flake needs to belie his name & use his Senate vote to mean something.

ohmymimi · 16/07/2018 19:35

Yes, McCain's statement nailed it. In full here:
mobile.twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/1018920782829969410

ohmymimi · 16/07/2018 19:38

Hear, hear, lljk, but sadly he just lives up to his name. He did a less than impressive extended interview earlier, in the halls of the Senate.

ohmymimi · 16/07/2018 19:41

Point:
Laurence Tribe
@tribelaw
Trump’s “no collusion” mantra in his joint presser with Putin was obviously premature (Mueller’s American shoes have yet to drop), irrelevant (the issue is was who attacked the US), and wrong: even if Trump didn’t collude with Putin in 2016, he colluded with him in Helsinki today
mobile.twitter.com/tribelaw/status/1018910736280535040

Gumpendorf · 16/07/2018 19:44

I agree mini he has no where to go without backtracking and letting down his hero.

I'm waiting to hear what the supporting argument could possibly be. So far there has been nothing but condemnation (in various strengths) from selected repugs. Silence from the toadies so far.

ohmymimi · 16/07/2018 19:49

And:

Laurence Tribe
@tribelaw
Trump said in Helsinki that he sees no reason Putin would’ve wanted to mess with our 2016 presidential election. Gimme a break. Putin offered the obvious reason at the same presser when he admitted that he wanted Trump to win the US presidency.
mobile.twitter.com/tribelaw/status/1018924524782456835

I thought it was odd Putin was so open about wanting T. to win. That would underlie the reason for the detected interference. Why did he? Was it an error? Definitely deserves a double Hmm Hmm

Just heard Putie timed his entrance today to exactly coincide with the start of a very popular TV talk show.

Sleipnirthewonderhorse · 16/07/2018 19:52

Apparently trumps pose here is actually sign language for vagina. Oops.

Our list of allies grows thin! Our list of enemies grows long! Trump thread continued.
Sleipnirthewonderhorse · 16/07/2018 20:01

And I've just noticed that Putin's stance is basically "here's my penis". Oops again. Although in Putin's case it was probably intentional.

ohmymimi · 16/07/2018 20:03

Hannity/Orange Oaf interview to be broadcast tonight. Oh, joy.

ohmymimi · 16/07/2018 20:06

Grin Sleip. Trump can't point to his, it's hiding somewhere in embarrassment.

ohmymimi · 16/07/2018 20:16

Anyone with any doubt how well it went for Russia?
Anton Troianovski
@antontroian
Lavrov, asked how the summit went, responds:
"Fabulous…better than super."
mobile.twitter.com/antontroian?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor

Gumpendorf · 16/07/2018 20:18

JUST IN: VP Pence offers a rose-colored view of Trump's Putin summit: "What the world saw, what the American people saw, is that President Donald Trump will always put the prosperity and security of America first."

https://twitter.com/PeterAlexander/status/1018923742163070976

So that's what happened ShockConfusedAngry

ohmymimi · 16/07/2018 20:22

This Russian person just arrested for spying, links to NRA gun group. Just reported by Tapper on CNN.
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maria_Butina

ohmymimi · 16/07/2018 20:28

will always put .... the security of America first
So, that's what he did today? What an empty, sycophantic, travesty of humanity, puppy dog Pence is.