AIBU to think that those who insist on teacher bashing need to think

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Where would the country be without teachers?

How would the country get the skills needed? How would you all go to work? What would happen to the economy with all those parents at home doing childcare?

Yeah but they aren’t just standing, they are moving around. Just standing is quite tiring for kids.

From option a-d what would be your preference? Tell me how I could do my job properly in that situation.

Baring in mind the equipment used left enough room for the other 28 children to walk around the edge of the hall single file; so siting would result in your child getting hurt.

Teachers are doing a wonderful job and are decicated and an inspiration.
However, they are only human and a few could do with a reality check at times. I appreciate it’s a job where it’s easy to became jaded.
I couldn’t do their job.

I have 3 teachers in my family. However, I will always be wary of teachers and schools. My ex bofriend and I were both 14 and in school when he started physically and sexually abusing me. A teacher saw him punch me in the face and said nothing. He also had me pinned against a wall strangling me in full view of around 5 teachers. The only person to step in was another student.
So I know they aren't all like that. But I don't automatically respect them either.

I don't know where the idea has come from that teachers work harder than everyone else! No one is above criticism and should be judged on a case by case basis. If one of my children's teachers isn't doing their job properly I will criticise and deal with it, if the teacher is great they'll get praise. Same as any other profession!

It's like any profession, there are some fantastic teachers and some that are not so great. I've met some lovely, supportive inspiring teachers and some that are awful.

Onlyjoinedforthisthread

You misconstrued what I put, it happens. And I didn't say that it just happened to teachers, I pointed out that if you did it to other professions they didn't have to put up with it as they have other options.

I don't feel unnecessarily bashed. There will always be poor / unkind teachers, failures in support systems, policies that need tweaking and you won't hear about the good on a forum like this, will you?

Where would the country be without teachers?
Probably have children having more enjoyable childhoods, free to learn what they want when they want, how they want. Not stuck with the same 29 other kids all day every weekday, sat at a desk.

How would the country get the skills needed?
See above. Self-directed learning.

How would you all go to work?
Shared work with the other parent. If a single parent, team up with other single parents/form a commune.

What would happen to the economy with all those parents at home doing childcare?
Ah, so it's childcare, is it?
But to answer the economy issue, we have high unemployment and home educating should redress this. Or job-sharing between parents.

Also see:
www.facebook.com/thehonestteachers/

Every parent is entitled to their opinion about teachers and schools, they are all different but I have to say.... the recent flurry of complaints against teachers has made me relieved that I quit and changed careers. I think if I were still teaching I would just avoid Mumsnet for a few weeks til it blew over. It's just demoralising to have it confirmed that yes, a lot of parents think you're shit at your job, get too much holiday etc. Leaving and pursuing a successful career that I did well in gave me a self esteem boost that I needed after being ground down by teaching. Just saying. I have so much respect for teachers who stick it out and put their heart and soul into it.

Also, of course if a teacher is unprofessional then those threads are fine, I've read some and agreed with OP, yes teacher was in wrong. But what get's me is the amount of people who seem to think teachers set things like uniform policy, behavioural policy, etc. No they don't, they have to enforce them. Teachers actually get a say in very very little of what happens in schools, but get the blame for anything that goes wrong. How often do people complain about the government meddling in educational policy, or about SMT directily? No, it's usually the teacher who finger is pointed at. Do you blame the train drivers for the failure of our rail network?.........?!

I find on MN there's a fairly even balance between teacher bashing and "oh no, it can't possibly have been the teacher, your child must have been lying, OP, even if there were 57 witnesses and the school has admitted it, because all children/teenagers lie and no adults ever do".

If there is one thing MN seems seriously good at it's child bashing.

I tend to hover somewhere in the middle, not least because my family have been teachers for generations and I've had a stab at it myself (supply). My parents and grandparents were very good teachers, but they knew perfectly well that not all their colleagues were: they didn't always believe the teacher, because they had seen so many different teachers.

corythatwas

The closest that I have seen to
"your child must have been lying"
is
'go and find out all the details'

two very different things.