to be so sad that I can't take up my UK job offer (visa refused)

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The title says it all, pretty much.

I'm an American teacher. I was so excited to receive a job offer to teach in the UK. It was a lifelong dream come true for me.

But my restricted cos was refused, so no visa for me. They are apparently only giving Tier 2 visas to people with huge salaries, so not teachers.

I am crushed. For the past few months I have been talking about nothing but my new job in the UK to my friends. Now whenever anyone asks me when I am going, I have to explain that I'm not going after all. I wish I had never gotten the job offer in the first place because that would have been better than this.

It is even worse because I keep reading about teacher shortages in the UK. They would rather have a shortage than me. It hurts so, so much.

:( heartbroken :(

OP: I’m afraid there are no guarantees about the salary changing that much, but I wouldn’t be surprised if many of the NHS positions were on the Shortage Ocxupation List which means that they would have always been given more points than your application... meaning that if they are removed from the process the salary bans is likely to be lower.

Have you checked the shortage occupation list to make sure your role is not on there? If it is, and your employer marks this on the RCOS request, you should be at the top of the list for an RCOS.

I think for teachers. The designated shortage occupations are secondary teachers in maths, physics and computer science.

I think for teachers. The designated shortage occupations are secondary teachers in maths, physics and computer science.
They are still not overly enthusiastic to award work permits for these though, even now.

There are so many Teachers coming over on working holiday visas that permanent visas are being batted away. Its just easier.

That's bad. And we wk fee we have skills shortages.

That said, I'm not sure getting into the US is easy at all these days.

Definitely our loss, OP.
Immigration rules have become dire.

Me too - and I know hundreds of people in this situation. Not a teacher but to everyone reading along - my work have jumped through ALL the hoops and are offering me a well paying job. I left my items in storage and my boyfriend there, I've been waiting all year and it's totally heartbreaking

@linearfunction you can PM me if you want to talk about this as I'm in the same boat and my employer is going to give up soon

The points should drop in July with doctors and nurses being removed but given they are 60 points in June, nobody with a salary under £60k not on the shortage list missed out. It will take a few months - who knows how many - for the backlog to clear

I'd much rather live in the States than the UK op. They've done you a favour.

And some of the replies on this thread are getting on my tits.

Regardless of how easy or hard it is to get a US work visa, OP has got a job offer, a workplace in the UK that wants her. There's a massive shortage of teachers in the UK so one qualified American who wants to live here isn't brain drain

Plus, people on work visas are taxed twice - you pay surcharges when you apply and NI when you work, which you probably won't collect later. We can't get benefits or social housing, rent privately, pay to use the NHS & are young so won't make use of it as much as most people

Migrants have a right to be here and highly skilled ones who work and pay their way several times over should be welcome

The rules have changed so there should be a lot more places in the July Tier 2 visa round.
So apply again before 5 July, and then at the 11 July allocation there should be another 750 or so places as all the doctors and nurses won't count towards the limit any more.
Though it may take a few months to settle down thanks to the backlog - though the backlog is mostly NHS workers, so who knows - by August it may well be pretty much resolved.

I think it's a good thing for pupils to have teachers from different countries

A complete and total liberal myth IMO.

What would it be like for a UK teacher trying to get into the US, to work?

^ Another poster asked this. As an educated teacher, has the OP considered this or formulated an answer to this? Why does the OP want to teach in the UK particularly.

Just saw this on Facebook

www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b0b7mfjc/south-today-evening-news-25062018

Seems incredibly short sighted and definitely needs an overhaul.
Hope it all works out for you

i read other posters sayings its incredibly difficult for UK teachers to get a job in the US. why does OP think that he or she should not be affected by that. genuine question, rather than sarky btw. but one he/she hasn't answered.

"a dream come true" in what way OP?

From many countries, I'd be sympathetic. But given the stance of your own country on granting visas, I'm struggling.

You do know that not every USA citizen voted for Trump and they don't all agree to his immigration policies?

My family are American and beyond upset that he is in power.

Our headteacher said this was becoming a problem with visas and teachers.....not sure why.

Completely ridiculous when there is such a shortage.

tixdy because a lot of Americans have a fantasy about living in England. They hear lovely (some) accents and see the majesty of the Trooping of the Colour and want that to be part of their lives.

tbh, the OP doesn't seem to have much awareness beyond what would make his/her "dream come true".

My dream-come-true, would be to move to US, become Suzanne Vega's neighbour etc etc. Sadly US Immigration see it slightly differently ... but at least (intellectually) I can get my head round it.

Thank you mimi for explaining more.

I'm so sorry for you. Definitely a loss to our children as teachers from abroad bring such a wealth of new teaching styles and methods as well as life experiences to tell the children.
I bloody hate our government and the bigoted racists that started this whole situation.

I think UK teachers have a wealth of teaching styles too. Its not racist to recognise that. If anything its more entitled to think you should be able to rock up at any country and get a job, even if no reciprocal arrangement.

life experiences to tell the children sounds questionable too ...

Nothing againstyou linear but im not sure the answer to the UK teacher crisis should be importing people. How about we improve conditions in the profession so that competent people in the UK want to do it.

'tbh, the OP doesn't seem to have much awareness beyond what would make his/her "dream come true". '

Tixdy, you know nothing about my background, or what awareness I might have. You seem very angry that I would want to work in your country. Yet you know nothing about me at all. I have said very little here, yet you seem quite ready to judge my character and experience.

And you THANKED mimi for explaining what MY "dream" might be? Really? She's far off target, by the way. How would you feel if I started making categorical statements about what "a lot of British people" feel or think?

I've spent enough time in the UK, and in other countries to know what it is like there. But way to go with stereotyping a foreigner and then reacting to that stereotype without knowing much about them as a person.

I grew up in five different countries, by the way.

Mimi

Condescending bigotry much? Either that or incredible telepathic skills.