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to think primary school uniform price is ridiculous?!

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TeaLover2468 · 27/06/2018 10:59

I'm new here but just wanting some perspective.

My dc's school has just updated the uniform policy, I've always thought it was expensive but now its getting a little silly.

Logo school jumpers £17.25 + each
Girls M&S Summer dresses £12+ each
The boys summer shirts £12 + each

On top of that they need

Logo PE tshirt £8.50
Logo PE hoodie £ £13.50
Specific PE Socks £ 5.50

This is without thiings like shoes, shirts, pinafores coats and backpacks, Logo PE bags, Hi-Viz.
Plus an Optional blazer at £30.

Is it unreasonable of me to think spending £200+ on one child a year on primary school uniform is ridiculous?
I always knew secondary schools were expensive but that's over £1300 for 6 years of primary school.
That could buy a car!
AIBU or is it getting a bit silly now?!

OP posts:
Mumwotdrums · 28/06/2018 13:10

I never had a problem with buying the actual school uniform. What I found unnecessary was paying out lots of money for special PE kit! I can see the point of it if your child is going to be representing the school but not just for lessons. ☹

MarklahMarklah · 28/06/2018 13:25

Seems pricy to me.
We have to get some logo stuff/specific stuff for DD's September school uniform. A PE top is £14.
We're a one-income family and are currently on just enough to take us over the threshold of qualifying for financial assistance, so we just have to cough up. That said, I'm currently scouring the local buy/sell/swap pages in case anyone is getting rid of outgrown clothes.
We have the option of logo jumpers/cardigans but at around £18 each I don't think we'll be getting those. I don't spend that amount on jumpers or cardigans for myself!

MinorRSole · 28/06/2018 13:46

That seems like a heck of a lot to me. I have 6 year old twins and that would have been a costly start to school and doesn't include footwear, backpacks, packed lunch bags and stationery.
I'm in Scotland so I did purchase the tartan dresses for dtg because, well they're gorgeous! Other than that I went supermarket uniform with a local embroidery shop doing the logos. Saved the money for decent footwear and have had to buy very little through the year.
Tbh the cheap trousers hang off dtg so the dresses weren't much more than I would have had to pay for specialist trousers anyway.

TeaLover2468 · 28/06/2018 14:35

@ImogenTubbs It's not necessarily everything is grown out of but as
@BingTheButterflySlayer said things like clothing getting wrecked, grass stains and holes (don't ask me how) I'd say at least half needs replacing.

OP posts:
Summerlovin24 · 28/06/2018 16:57

Its all a rip off. Just like holidays in school holiday time and babymilk, nappies. Thelist is endless. Cos you need them they rip you off

ikeepaforkinmypurse · 28/06/2018 17:02

Holidays are at full price during peak time, and at reduced prices when the demand is the lowest, and the seasons the least attractive. Where do you see a rip-off there?

Gilly12345 · 28/06/2018 17:05

This may seem like a big expense but it is because you are buying everything new, then you are only buying when things are outgrown or lost, I always used to label clothes and thus helped, I think school uniform works out cheaper in the long term as school is not a fashion show and as for the cost surely that is what child benefit is for?

ChocolateWombat · 28/06/2018 18:16

Definitely look into the secondhand sale....email the school to find out when the hey have a sale or how you access their supply. Secondhand is often as good as new and perhaps 20% of new price. Believe me, the people you will find at those sales are often those who are most affluent, who love a bargain. And when you enquire, why not also ask if any of the items can be bought from other, cheaper places.....schools are under pressure to not make uniform too expensive, so if you ask, they will need to indicate alternatives.
Save your cash for things like shoes which you need to buy new.

And yes, most years you won't need everything new again, but just a couple of items.

So yes, starting school or moving school is an expense....but that's hardly a surprise is it? You will also be able to significantly reduce the amount of out of school clothes needed.

And I'd say, it's important to recognise having a school age child is going to involve some other costs too - the more you know in advance, the more you can think ahead and plan a little - there will be some school trips and some charity events, and if course there will be parties to go to with a small gift. Some people seem determined to see the school as trying to fleece them for every penny they have or to resent X spending any money at all on their child in relation to school - so they don't want to pay anything for school clothes or for trips or for something like swimming lessons - sometimes this isn't because they don't want toss end any money on their child, because they do spend on other things for the child - so perhaps some designer trainers, or a big day out, or an electronic. Some people seem happy to spend on these things, but almost to feel obliged to complain every time there is any expense involved related to school - is it an objection to authority or a determination to see school as the enemy - some people do seem to do that. AND before anyone wants to quote me out of context, of course I know that for some families, paying for school uniform or for anything at all is a total struggle, because their income is very low and insufficient to meet all their needs. No one minds when those people complain about the costs, and absolutely, schools have a duty to make sure they don't make those families' situations worse than they already are. I am just saying, that many people who aren't really in this position like to moan about uniform or other costs related to school - so every time a 'voluntary' contribution is requested for a school theatre company coming in, or for the swimming instructor to teach their kids, they feel outraged about school asking for money and that everything should be free - perhaps they haven't heard that the government has massively cut school funding and that these days, schools can genuinely only afford a very minimalist education - if they don't ask parents to contribute for the extras and if parents don't give the voluntary contributions, those extras which Gide an enriched education just won't happen. Schools aren't lining their pockets with money spent on uniform or sent in for trips or school lunches.....but the way people carry on, you'd think they were. So fine, if you really are on the bread line, then yes of course, having a school age child is goi g to be hard and you're entitled to feel aggrieved, but if you've actually got some cash, it's important to accept that having a child at school isn't free and that there are associated expenses and accepting that is important.

Sorry, moan over. I do understand it's really hard for some people, but I think there are lots more who would just rather not spend any money on things related to school and aren't quite in the real world about the realities of funding and the costs of having a child today.

BingTheButterflySlayer · 28/06/2018 18:32

I think school uniform works out cheaper in the long term

If you're in the habit of putting your kid in a £17 cardigan to play with glue, mud or paint!

In everyday wardrobe terms though - you can shop around, you can buy stuff on sale, you can use second hand and supermarket clothes or whatever... these ridiculous sole supplier, obscure colour, tartan so you have to go to one place, logos everywhere to keep you going to one supplier uniforms that are spreading everywhere remove all that aspect of choice. The days when you knew they needed a navy jumper or cardie, white polo, grey bottoms and could get them from wherever was cheapest, or from their cousins who'd outgrown them are going rather rapidly. THAT is the real crux of the issue - not this whole crap that gets thrown in by people intentionally being stubborn wanting to get digs in about "you get child benefit" or "kids cost money you know"

Hell - even back when my kids were born - the local school uniform was just a specific colour top and bottom... factored in when we worked out we wanted to have a family that we'd have to buy things like school uniform but based on that kind of level. Fast forward 5-6 years and absolutely everything's changed and we're into the realm of £17 cardigans - not something people reasonably could have been expected to forsee... the tripling of uniform costs and more (I'm basing that on a supermarket cardigan costing about a fiver versus the figure previously stated on this thread - and it's worse if you factor in the proliferation of tartan, custom coloured braid on blazers and the like).

It's getting out of control. It's unnecessary and it bloody well starts parents joining the school off on a defensive footing as well really.

Mrschainsawuk · 28/06/2018 18:35

I only buy 2 jumpers and rest from asda he has 3 none badge jumpers at £3 each polo's something like £7 for 5 trousers £3 each his school badge jumpers are £10 each his pe kits cost about a fiver and a cheap drawstring bag a pound his shoes I when though 5 pairs his book bag is from nursery so no need for a new one and his backpack he picked in the pound shop and then was replaced a few months ago I spend about 50 to 60 pound kitting him out for the year

Cheerymom · 28/06/2018 18:36

Imagine having to have to pay for a uniform and getting free education? I have never understood this mentality there are lots of options for second hand uniforms and it saves on buying five days worth of clothes for most of the year. And you Iive in a country with free education? YABU.

BingTheButterflySlayer · 28/06/2018 18:37

there are lots of options for second hand uniforms

OP posted after the school had changed the uniform policy. New colours, new school logos = no second hand uniform floating around nicely to be sold.

PerfectlySymmetricalButtocks · 28/06/2018 18:44

Exactly the same thing that happened to us. Sweatshirts and polo shirts went in the rag bucket, had to buy new £15 jumpers, PE t-shirts and 1 tie. I'll have to buy DS2 a tie in the summer holidays as he goes into yr3 in September. No handing down as DD needs hers for another year.

Cheerymom · 28/06/2018 18:44

Thanks Bing, not much Op can do then, its ignorant and its the school policy, other than home educate.

ApolloniaC · 28/06/2018 18:45

We're in the u.s. no uniform for my boys school. We just buy cheapo stuff from wal mart, target etc. Id cry at those prices OP!

BakedBeans47 · 28/06/2018 18:48

YANBU

State schools with mandatory bespoke uniforms get on my wick. My kids primary school had logo items and a blazer but they were not mandatory and I got all their stuff in supermarkets. High school is pretty much the same except they need a blazer in the senior school. There’s no need for such prescriptive nonsense

BakedBeans47 · 28/06/2018 18:53

And no matter how you dress it up telling the OP she has to buy her summer dresses for M and S at double the price of Asda is ridiculous

NeedAUsernameGenerator · 28/06/2018 19:01

That is far too expensive for a state school. Ours asks for a logoed cardigan or jumper which is £12 or £13 depending on size and that's it. Everything else is generic although you can get a school fleece and polo shirt and hat and p.e. top if you want to. Could you write to the school explaining that your finances don't allow for the whole uniform to be purchased in one go and so your children will be wearing generic alternatives and you would kindly request that staff not embarass them by asking them why they're not wearing correct uniform? If enough people did that hopefully school would get the message.

ChocolateWombat · 28/06/2018 19:34

People who can least afford expensive uniform are also probably least likely to write to the Head raising the issue of branded or shop specific uniform being more expensive - they don't want to draw attention to their financial circumstances. Other people who perhaps could afford the more expensive items, but who instead don't want to pay for them, or who think it is wrong on principle need to complain.

I know why schools increasingly specify - it is because people insist on taking the piss and putting their kids in items which aren't uniform, so the school crack down and specify if an attempt to prevent this and to remove all ambiguity. To be honest, in primary, if there is a little variation, it probably doesn't matter too much - so perhaps one logged item (cardigan or jumper usually) will do and then a specified colour of skirt/dress/trousers and tops and a t shirt and shorts would probably do it.

Often the better off people are more likely to say 'sod it' and buy the cheaper alternative anyway, whilst those who struggle financially might cripple themselves to get the designated stuff because they don't want to draw attention to themselves. Much better to not be brand specific and then those who want M and S or John Lewis can get it and those who want Asda can too. The kids won't notice or care.

And there's a balance to be had between lasting quality and cheap price .....with shoes, very cheap shoes often fall apart and are a false economy, but if you can't afford more than £10 at a time, you'll have to pay more in the long run to keep buying and replacing cheap shoes. Some items get paint on them or get trashed, so having lasting quality is t really worth it. Other items are probably worth spending a bit more on, if you can afford it as they will last longer or look better for longer....probably more gain to be had here in the Junior rather than infant years.

Write to your Heads everyone - if you have more than one or two logged items or more than one or two times which need to come from a specific shop.

Rebecca36 · 28/06/2018 19:35

Cheaper than buying them different non-uniform clothes. It doesn't take long for kids to start comparing things, they can't do that if they are in uniform. What you have described is not expensive really.

I'm sorry for you though, it is a lot to lay out all at once. Maybe grandparents could help?

In future try to put a bit by every month, maybe even out of family allowance (not always easy I know). Good luck!

(Don't let your little one know this is distressing for you.)

noeffingidea · 28/06/2018 20:01

it saves on buying five days worth of clothes for most of the year
That argument only really works if there are no school holidays, because obviously they need 7 days worth of clothes for those weeks.
I used to go to a non uniform junior school (many years ago) and kids just wore the same clothes in school as they wore out of school, so no, having to buy school uniform on top of their normal clothes wouldn't have saved money at all.

PerfectlySymmetricalButtocks · 28/06/2018 20:09

Why would you need 5 days' worth of clothes? We have 2 sets of uniform per child. Wash one, wear one. And £15 for a jumper? no way I'd do that with ordinary clothes. Also, because they have Christmas jumper day, their Christmas jumper is their non-school jumper for 2 years (I buy a size up).

ikeepaforkinmypurse · 28/06/2018 20:15

Why would you need 5 days' worth of clothes?
because it makes your life so much easier, no need for laundry more than once a week (even doing separate loads for white/ black and colour)

I couldn't be bothered to have to wash a uniform every single day, stress about one being damaged, a jumper being lost somewhere. Too much effort. We each have enough clothes to last at the very least 2 weeks without any laundry, 5 uniforms is just about right.

It works out a lot cheaper to buy 5 uniforms and a few non uniforms clothes.

BlackeyedSusan · 28/06/2018 23:42

ds's school uniform. 6x jumpers £6 done one child already and they were second hand then, then they get passed onto a fourth or fifth child.

trousers. x5 some for a £1 each some for 4-5 pounds each, some free passed down. any that survive get passed on.

shirts, supermarket, 6 @ £2 ish each. bleach to keeep them white costs more

pe t shirt. £1
shorts £1.50 (they are the same ones I bought dd in reception and he is juniors now)

pe bag. just bought another one for £3 as he lost the other.

replace bag every couple of years depending on quality and treatement.

shoes, two pairs per year to 18 months, at £45 ish.

Solo · 29/06/2018 00:06

YANBU, OP.

Dd goes to secondary school this year and the newly compulsory backpack is £30. The sports bag £22.99. Everything else is just as ridiculous and cannot be bought in supermarkets although, I might get away with the blouses and socks. Call me cynical but, I reckon there must be a bit of commission bouncing back to the school from the only uniform shop that sells the very specific blazer, skirt, and jumper plus all the sports kit.

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