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To think husband is out of order?

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rainbowfish55 · 16/06/2018 20:37

All we do is fight and argue. We have nearly separated several times this year, we agreed to both try harder. I have to coax him to communicate with me. I have always been open with my issues. I have no support from him and he was pretty crap from I got pregnant. No time for me, dismissive, as though everything was a big hassle. Wasn't happy I woke him when baby first kicked. Wasn't happy my waters broke at bed time. He's very tit for tat and if I say Iv been up with the baby then he rhymes off all the times he's been up etc. I breast fed and didn't expect him to get up in the night, if I'm working I pack the baby bag, lay out all the clothes. Pre-make meals so all he needs to do is dress and feed. If I don't do these things then baby goes without or gets fed crap and dressed unsuitably for the weather. I live far from family so it's just us with no one else around us. There is no domestic violence issue at all just for full disclosure and so as not to drip feed. Yes he has some good points but I can't see them at the minute and tbh they are few and far between. He loves the baby, I have no doubt he loves me but he has a chip on his shoulder with me and is too lazy to put in any effort. He wants an easy life and a wife when it suits him. So anyway, there's no support and he listened to me explain this and said he took it on board. I asked what his problem was with me and he said coz I moan, when coaxed he said I moan too much and I'm always asking him to do stuff. Like clean the kitchen or tidy his mess...... all pretty standard stuff coz if I didn't moan ask then it wouldn't get done so he interprets my asking as moaning. He will admit (on a good day) that he is lazy and forgets things and only does half a job coz he will only do what he thinks he can get away with and leave the rest to me. He doesn't think and will happily walk past piles of mess for days on end, over the years Iv lost all patience and I don't ask with any sort of pleasant politeness. Nor am I cheeky, probably just blunt like. 'Get that moved, it's been lying there for 3 days' he will of course then deny it and start moaning that Iv bagged him instead of him just doing it in the first place. So anyway, tonight he was to clean the spare room for guests coming (it's his dumping ground) guests have arrived and there is still some stuff lying around, so ask him to move it. He starts to moan that Iv nagged him and Iv had enough so I start to have a rant, I'm fed up with constantly having to ask you, it's ridiculous just do what I ask when I ask and then you won't get moaned at you're not a child blah blah blah........and he proceeds to fart and grin at me like hahaha this is so funny. I tell him it's not funny and it's disgusting and disrespectful and he laughs and tells me I'm a bore. Please tell me I am not being unreasonable here, that's bang out of order? The man is 40 and we have spent the last year barely talking, on the verge of divorce. I continually tell him I need more support and respect from him and he thinks that's ok????

I work 6 days a week,cook, clean, look after the at baby. He's crap at DIY which isn't a big deal but he doesn't make up for it by doing more of the housework or anything else. The garden is a mess coz he won't look after it either. He needs coached in every single task he does. He's not affectionate and won't go out of his way to do anything nice for me. He won't even clean his skid marks off the fucking toilet until asked. He tells me it's easy looking after the baby and expects me to have a dinner on the table for him coming home as well as the baby in bed and the house cleaned so he really does have double standards as well as being pretty shit at everything.....god that turned in to a bigger moan than I intended but fuck me I'm on the edge. I'd just like him to make more of an effort and actually treat me with respect for a change

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PhoebefromFriends · 16/06/2018 20:41

What is stopping you from LTB?

outofmydepth45 · 16/06/2018 20:41

You don't need him to make more of an effort, just leave it will be easier. Move closer to your family and fuck him off. He sounds like a dick and you deserve better.

UpstartCrow · 16/06/2018 20:41

I get what you're saying but essentially you want him to be a different person. He's not a project, this is the way he is.
Maybe if you had a separation for 6 months it might shake him up into changing. And maybe you'd benefit from the break.

Maelstrop · 16/06/2018 20:44

Can you change jobs and g9 home to your family? The guy sounds like an absolute twat. Why are you with him?

Andro · 16/06/2018 20:45

I'm not surprised you're not able to see his good points, I'm struggling to come up with enough possibilities to mitigate a fraction of what you've written.

At least if you divorced him you'd only be managing one child...

The lack of respect he's showing you is breathtaking, his lack of care for his child is worrying.

Paleshelter · 16/06/2018 20:46

He sounds lovely- not. To be honest it the way you are describing him, it seems that he doesn't even like you never mind love you. If he wants a maid he should pay for one. Sorry OP Flowers

Snowysky20009 · 16/06/2018 20:46

Why are you with him???

NewYearNewMe18 · 16/06/2018 20:47

I must have missed his good points?

hellololly · 16/06/2018 20:49

You snapped and he farted? Wink

Joking aside though he's a manchild. Get rid.

rainbowfish55 · 16/06/2018 20:56

Hellololly that made me lol 😂

Home and my family are overseas and Iv worked hard to where I am in my job to pack it in. There's now DV so quitting and moving back home just hasn't been an option.

I did ask him to leave for a week, he has nowhere to go either, and then move back in to spare room but he refused to go. This happens all the time and he says things will improve but they don't. He says I go back to moaning but again I'm left with no support and a filthy house! He said Iv to lower my standards - I have - we have a baby and full time jobs. Clean floors, clean worktops, clean toilets and empty bins are what I aim for. He says it's unreasonable to expect him to brush daily Confused Iv asked him to look after bins, floors and pick up after himself and I'll manage the rest but he won't. One of his favourite lines to me is, if you are nice to me first I'll be nice to you. Kinda hard when you have to think for 100+ people on the 9-5pm then you need to think for your manchild too. Apparently he cleaned the kitchen 3 times when I was at work today but all the dishes are still in the sink, the floor was minging and the baby's lunch was still on the floor.....

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rainbowfish55 · 16/06/2018 20:57

There is no DV. Not there is now DV!

We bicker and fight, it's not mega but it's depressing and it's not a good example for the baby. I don't want him growing up thinking this is a reasonable way to treat women....

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maras2 · 16/06/2018 20:57

Jaysus. He sounds like a feral animal that's just moved in and dirtied your home. Envy not envy Angry.
Get rid of the nasty bastard.

CloudCaptain · 16/06/2018 20:58

Just no. He's a lazy sod who is adding nothing except additional wifework to your already hefty load. Drop 80+kg of deadweight by ditching the bastard. Does he bring in a hefty salary or is fantastically organic in bed? What are is good points? It's certainly not personality, wit or being a practical help.

CloudCaptain · 16/06/2018 21:02

You do not need dv as a reason to ditch this fucking waste of space. You really don't. Why would you think that. You almost seem to be anticipating it as a valid reason.
Gather all your paperwork. Make a plan and move out if he won't. Are you on the mortgage together or renting?

clyde5591 · 16/06/2018 21:02

Tell me again why you are staying????

He's 40 with the behaviour and attitude of a bold toddler and unlikely to change or grow up now - if you leave you will have only one child to deal with and they will grow and mature in a better person without your DH's influence.

Could you contact family and move nearer to them? It would be tough to start with but you and most importantly your child deserve so very much better.

rainbowfish55 · 16/06/2018 21:09

Cloudcaptain - in the main earner and he happily encourages me to work overtime at weekends Blush sex life is a big issue. We have no sex life. He told me I was shit in bed coz I just lie there, he's overweight and I don't have any option but to lie there coz he's so heavy....! I could write a whole other thread on this..... basically he was insecure and had issues when we met 15+ years ago, Iv tried my best to help him but had to guess what the issues were coz he doesn't communicate with me. I used to put in a lot of effort, sex was all about him and then I stopped and now we haven't had sex.... this year? Who knows!

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NorksAreMessy · 16/06/2018 21:10

Who has time, energy or just URGH for this crap?
Life can be better

AcrossthePond55 · 16/06/2018 21:11

Why on earth do you want to care for one more child than the one you already have?

He is no help to you and causes you more work and aggro. Nope, I wouldn't be doing with that.

Picture you and your child in a tidy little flat or house. Clean and neat, quiet and peaceful. Now look at what you're living in and with. I know which I'd choose. It's hard to be without family, I know. But I still think you'd find it easier relying on no one other than yourself (and paid childcare) than doing it all anyway and feeling the resentment and frustration of him sitting on his arse whilst you do!

rainbowfish55 · 16/06/2018 21:14

Norks that's exactly how I feel most days. I just want to be happy and for someone to be happy with me! I am so much fun and just want to share that with someone.

I have such a fun day out planned for tomorrow and went to so much effort but feel like going to work and leaving him to it with baby and guests.

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Andro · 16/06/2018 21:16

Aside from a lot of extra work and stress, what exactly are you getting out of this marriage?

rainbowfish55 · 16/06/2018 21:16

It would be nice to have the peace and quiet and CLEAN house but I suppose I want to make him change.... someone said he's not a project tho and I do need to stop thinking that. It just seems such a waste and such a hassle to split us up coz he's lazy..... that's how it feels

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MrsMrsMrsMrs · 16/06/2018 21:17

I have a friend in a very similar situation only she's further down the line... she now has two kids, three if you count her manchild, and she hasn't DTD in 7 years... she's so terribly unhappy but feels like she can't cope financially if she left him or the kids would be upset.
He's become worse as he's got away with it and is now gaslighting her and making her think she's going crazy.

If you can see no future, I'd get out while you can, your baby is still young and doesn't need to grow up with this, and if you do end up with more kids you could feel trapped like she does.

rainbowfish55 · 16/06/2018 21:18

Andro, honestly at the minute. Nothing. Iv told him that and he thinks I'm being dramatic. I'm so open and honest, he knows all this but doesn't care or listen. I'm getting nothing from it at all. He went out and bought himself dinner the other night and didn't get me anything coz he assumed I wouldn't want anything lol honestly it's like living with a lodger who makes mess all round the house. So selfish

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rainbowfish55 · 16/06/2018 21:21

Mrs that is awful. I don't want to get in that position. I think he tried to gaslight me last year. He told me I was losing it when I was about 6 weeks post partum..... god the more I write the worse he sounds.

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hellololly · 16/06/2018 21:23

Glad I made you smile :)

Could you get a cleaner or something just to take the pressure off you for the time being. Then you can decide whether he's still a waste of space when you're not stressed about the house.

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