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Pebblesonthesand · 14/06/2018 15:13

I've NC as don't want this on my regular account...Had lunch with a friend today and saw she had a very expensive bracelet and necklace by Tiffany...I said it was lovely...her reply was "yeah bought it yesterday with the money I got from one of mum's old codger's that popped his clogs a few months back, his will only paid out last week".

I was a bit taken aback and started to feel uncomfortable!

She said that for years her mum cleans, cooks, shops, personal care and sorts things out for old people, cash in hand, that live on their own as they don't have anyone else! As a thank you they put her Mum in their wills (usually as the sole beneficiary or her and her Mum as she helps out once in a while-there's a few of the old people she's known since she was at school so see her as a daughter/grand daughter) leaving houses, cars, money, jewellery, cash; over the last five years she's made over £400,000.

I don't know why but it doesn't sit right...I get that she's helping people not be lonely but it's the wills thing that makes me feel uneasy! I think I was a bit surprised in the way she referred to the old people.

AIBU that it's not right to earn money this way? She doesn't work...mainly just shops from the wills stuff for her and her family! She said that her and her Mum aren't the only ones that do it and there's plenty of people up and down the country do it and everyone's a winner! Old person isn't lonely and they aren't working a low paid jobs. I didn't really know what to say so cut our meet up short as felt really uncomfortable as she was talking about her next big purchase Confused

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Pebblesonthesand · 14/06/2018 18:43

@GreenMeerkat yes she is...my friend 1 met up with (necklace) friend and her mum at the weekend and she was apparently the same attitude with friend 1...saying stuff about codgers and popping their clogs Confused

They definitely work cash in hand! Other friend 2 who doesn't speak to them anymore because of this and an argument over paying tax and being self-employed. Friend 2 husband is a plumber and pays a ridiculous amount in tax...(necklace) friend started boasting "why bother I don't etc".

I don't agree with cash in hand unless you pay tax and (necklace) friend knows my stance but there's not much I can do without another big fall out!

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GreenMeerkat · 14/06/2018 21:44

@Pebblesonthesand I think your other friend has the right idea. Necklace friend and her mum sound like horrible, vile people and I'd want nothing to do with them. I'd also report them to HMRC.

voldermorticia · 14/06/2018 22:29

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Tangled59 · 14/06/2018 22:36

I just dont get hiw they would be able to identify people who are:
A) Wealthy
B) Completely alone
C) Willing to put them in their will

I mean how do they find their "clients"?

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Pebblesonthesand · 14/06/2018 22:49

@voldermorticia no I haven't, I've been in two minds as part of me thinks it's not my business to report them and the other it is! Confused

@Tangled59 I'm not sure its usually people her Mum has known for years.

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KatyaZamolodchikova · 14/06/2018 22:56

Safeguarding vulnerable adults is everyone’s business. Please report them. And I work in care and agree with others: this is potentially abuse. Please help it stop.

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Pebblesonthesand · 14/06/2018 23:00

@voldermorticia they've been left houses that they've done up and sold on, 1 they are renting out, I know they were left a classic car and sold it on, cash that was being stored in the house just under £8000 (even my parents store money under their mattress). Necklace friend bought a new Range Rover last year and that's what made me think ok how are you affording this stuff when you don't work? I originally thought they had won some lottery money and didn't want to say anything which is completely their right!

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Snappedandfarted2018 · 14/06/2018 23:07

That sound like financial and elder abuse.

Sick and wrong. If you want to help elderly or lonely people, do it because you care, not because you want something.

I'd be so disgusted that I'd honestly be considering reporting them

This^ it’s sadly common, the individual may not have the capacity to understand what they are actually handing over to someone. The fact they have had I’ve £400k suggests to me it’s a scam. Even your friends behaviour about talking about a man who just passed away like he was nothing. I would report immediately.

Pebblesonthesand · 14/06/2018 23:18

@KatyaZamolodchikova as I said earlier I will be speaking to social services in my break tomorrow to see what they can do, friend no1 her Dad is a retired copper so been speaking to him tonight and wrote down a load of stuff with friend 1, he is going to see what he and his colleagues that are still in the force can do!

I have said to (necklace) friend as she text earlier asking me what my problem was earlier? I text back saying that I'm not happy with what's going on and had no response!

@voldermorticia Hmm

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Helloflamingogo · 14/06/2018 23:25

Sounds very manipulative and wrong. Glad you’re going to do something about it.

CraftyYankee · 14/06/2018 23:26

Name change fail at 17:15, might want to msg MNHQ.

Mountainsoutofmolehills · 14/06/2018 23:30

its fine, if they are in sound mind. But it doesn't sit right with you because of the tone, that indicated to you something sinister. Watch her, ask some questions little by little... do not ever let on that you think this is untoward. Find some information.

Mountainsoutofmolehills · 14/06/2018 23:31

AND never let on that it's you that shops her. Ever. Or any of your mates. Be careful. People hate being done for fraud.

Pebblesonthesand · 14/06/2018 23:35

@Mountainsoutofmolehills will do, friend 1 is going to do the same too.

@CraftyYankee ?

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SemperIdem · 14/06/2018 23:36

YANBU I really wouldn’t like that either.

Seriousquestion09 · 14/06/2018 23:54

Report

SabineUndine · 15/06/2018 00:03

Are they actually employed as care workers? That might be how they find people. If they are, they’re not likely to be allowed to receive gifts or money from clients’ wills. Please give social services a call.

Pebblesonthesand · 15/06/2018 00:23

@SabineUndine No definitely not employed as care workers...they don't work ordinary jobs...that's why I always thought they had won some money and wanted to keep it secret...so never really asked...but last few years (necklace) friend has dropped hints and been more open today about it.

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CraftyYankee · 15/06/2018 00:25

The message posted at 17:15 sounds like it was from you OP under your regular username. If it is I thought you'd want to get it changed so you're not identifiable. Apologies if I'm mistaken.

Shopkinsdoll · 15/06/2018 00:35

I think you should contact age concern. They deal with this sort of thing

Pebblesonthesand · 15/06/2018 00:43

@CraftyYankee nope definitely not me as my regular username at 17.15...had me worried then.

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Pebblesonthesand · 15/06/2018 00:46

@CraftyYankee no worries I posted that comment without the doctor bit at 15.23.

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