Just put some bloody clothes on if you're cold....

[woolythoughts]

Just that.

Air conditioning wars.

Office I work in is run by a south american, has two Italians, and a lot of British hot house flowers.

The temperature regularly gets up to 27/28 in here (its an all glass building) but within five minutes of turning the air con on, all we get is "its cold".

Me and one other person are working in light cotton trousers and light vests - nothing else. We literally cannot take any more clothes off and be decent. We have mini personal desk fans which help a little.

The problem doesn't end in winter though. Then they want to crank the heating up to 28 and we'd be quite happy with the window open -but we are willing to compromise at 22. But thats not warm enough apparently.

So we have to suffer feeling ill and tired just because they don't want to wear a cardigan in summer.

Yanbu. I think there's a certain breed of women that sit in very light clothing complaining they're cold because it's seen as delicate or feminine.
Put a bloody vest on under your blouse and a cardigan on top and if it's really cold wear tights under your trousers.
The people I know that genuinely feel the cold due to low body weight or poor circulation dress in layers and even use a hot water bottle.

I'm a cold running person, but I've worked in offices like this and I've struggled with the heat. There's comfortably warm and then there's massively overcompensating. YANBU

28 degrees is crazy, my heating is set to click on at 18/19 degrees at home and 14 degrees at night. If it's a very cold winters evening I will put the fire on in the living room.
I'd feel faint at 28 degrees.

This is one of those things i hated about working in an office. I am usually a bit hot at 'normal' temperatures and like to feel a little chilly most of the time. So i dress appropriately. But what really pisses me off is people dressing seasonally inappropriately and moaning about being too hot or too cold.

I still get angry about the time i shared an office with a woman who drove to work in the middle of winter wearing a strappy vest and cotton summer skirt and fucking FLIP FLOPS, Then turned all the radiators up to max and brought in electric heaters and moaned all day long about being cold. I had to commute for 2 hours on freezing stations and dressed for winter as did all my colleagues, but SHE, insisted everyone was fainting from heat because she was 'just more comfortable in her summer clothes' tinkly laugh. WELL FUCK OFF AND MOVE TO MERCURY KAREN!

Personally with me the thing with air conditioners is the draught, not the temperature, especially if I'm sitting underneath it. So maybe it's the draught they object to?

shitty architect designed buildings - needing aircon in the uk indicates that the designer is a total fool and should be shot.silly cows who wont put on a jumper need a good slap for being such fools . they must really hate their kids to want to waste so much fuel.

And 22 is not cold at all!

Could this desktop portable evaporative cooler with USB be helpful. Unfortunately it's not cheap tho.

www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/sref=mw_dp_a_s?k=Evapolar&tag=mumsnetforum-21&ie=UTF8

I'm happy to wear a cardigan, although I do like to be nice and warm. My main complaint with air con is that I wear contact lenses and they stick to my eyeballs if it's on for too long! I sit under an air con unit but I make sure it's not blowing down on me (or preferably off).

I agree with others that in a better designed building air con shouldn't be necessary in the U.K. except maybe at the height of summer or freakishly hot weather. I hate these glass towers incubating tonnes of germs with air con blowing around.
I stopped work 2 years ago and can't remember the last time I was ill.

It might be the draught but there's not much that can be done about that.

I know I'm unusual in that my ideal operating temp is about 16 degrees and I sleep with no heating on and the windows wide open even in the beast from the east! I don't own a coat as I would never ever be cold enough to wear one - in winter a thick jumper is more than fine.

I do keep a blanket in the car in case I break down in a beast from the east scenario.

There just seem to be no happy medium.

Me and the other people who like to run cold would be "happy" at 20-21 degrees which is not too cold for most people surely.

28 degrees is insanely hot - wear a bloody jumper!

I have a (lovely) colleague who insists on having the window open all year, our heating rarely works and tbh it seems environmentally insane to have the heating on if the window is going to stay wide open.

My problem is I can't type wearing thick woolly mittens, and after a few hours at work my hands are blue and start aching.

Thankfully, we don't run to aircon.

I run very cold and even I am uncomfortably hot above 25 degrees.

I do wish I didn't have to wear a cardie at work as outfits look far better without, but I recognise that this is my issue. (Ignoring those that think that rather than compromising, everyone else should shiver to appease the perimenopausal hottest people.)

Me and the other people who like to run cold would be "happy" at 20-21 degrees which is not too cold for most people surely.
We run our house at 20 degrees in the main. This is comfortable enough for hot running DH who will strip to a t shirt and shorts if he's too hot, and for me who'll put a thick cardi and slippers on if I'm too cold.

But it isn't always enough to wear more clothes.

My co-worker and I have heating wars. I am always cold and wear my coat and two hoodies in the office but my nose is always freezing and the tips of my ears and I have no circulation in my hands.

When he's not there and I can have the heater on, I still wear a few layers but my skin isn't blue and I don't feel as shivery and hunched.

Some people struggle to regulate their internal temperature. I wouldn’t be able to function with a/c set at 22, not because of the cold, but the draft. When I worked in offices, I always had my own personal heater under the desk keeping me warm in the winter. I would wear several layers as well but nothing would be enough.

I think it’s very hard to please everyone. I would say try regulating the a/c a little higher than to 22 and get the company to buy you some decent sized desk fans. The cost of which to be taken from the saving on running cost of the a/c.

Personally I would always choose to be hot than cold. I literally shut down when I’m cold and my brain stops functioning.

In this situation YANBU.

However, to those saying the cold people can put on more clothes: sometimes at work in winter I am wearing a vest, a thermal long sleeved vest, a dress, decent tights, a smart jumper and a jacket and am Still cold. If others are still wearing jackets at this point then I really do think I should be allowed to put the heating up. Obviously if I wasn’t wearing those things it would be different.

You sound like my nightmare, OP!

I work in a small office, and the windows are always open. However, the older ladies I work with are constantly prone to hot flushes and insist on the air con being whacked full tilt too.

My desk is directly under the air con vent. I keep a selection of jumpers and jackets with me for this reason. I can't move desks (workplace set-up), so I just have to put up and shut up when the office reaches sub-zero temperatures. It's horrendous - I can't feel my fingers or my ears after a while (or concentrate on my work) because the air con is blasting down on me despite wearing about 3 jumpers.

I wish people like you would be more considerate.

@eniledam

What exactly would you wish me to do when I'm feeling sick and struggling to stay awake because I'm too hot.

YANBU, far easier to to add more layers if cold than it is to take clothes off if warm. I hate being too warm, makes me feel sick and I wouldn’t be able to work.

That is beyond ridiculous that you have to sit in a room temp that high at work! 27degrees!!! A natural and normal temperature should be 20-21. It's easier for people to warm up than cool down, being hot can affect your brain it swells when it's too hot.
I live in a desert by the way so I am used to hot temps.
People are also more inclined to get ill in a warmer stuffier environment, when I worked on planes years ago we would keep the temps down 20:21degs because you're less inclined for people to become ill aka fainting, dehydration, seizures, whatever else.
So weird you have to put up with that. Def check the gov website to see

@eniledam sub zero temperatures, really? Probably 20 degrees 😂

@woolythoughts

Get some wearable ice packs?

What would you wish me to do when I can't work and my fingers are turning blue because I'm so cold?

@kaytee87 That's obvs an exaggeration but that's what it feels like hahaha