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Ban iPads & Tablets For Children

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londonmummyof1 · 06/06/2018 23:20

Is it just me, or does the iPad generation bother anyone else?

We went on a family holiday to Spain with my husband and almost 3 year old daughter, and at breakfast, lunch and dinner it’s the same sight - parents bringing out iPads for their preschool children to sit and watch - while eating!?! This is something I have never seen before and I absolutely do not agree with. I think seeing the scale of the problem during this one holiday shows what a problem this is. The thing is, the children aren’t even given the choice of asking for the iPad or to watch a show, it’s just slapped down in front of them and then they are glued. No interaction, just plugged into this simulated world, at the prime time in their life they are developing their language, speech, behaviour and personality - under the age of 5.

We did not bring an iPad for our child on holiday because we wanted to play in the swimming/splash pool, go to the beach etc and we spent such quality time with our child with memories we will keep forever.

This did not happen 20 or even 10 years ago - what did parents do with their children then? God forbid did they COMMUNICATE with their children at the dinner table?

What is happening to this world? Why not have a conversation with your child or bring a sticker book or story book for them to look at if feeding time is difficult. Every parent has been there with challenging mealtimes, but lugging the iPad around during 3 mealtimes, that’s a minimum of 3 hours your child is in a zombie state of mind, you’re starving them of developing their speech and ability to play by themselves and entertain themselves through play.

Do parents understand that too much screen time is extremely damaging to young children and can pave the way to obesity and development issues later in life?

I feel so passionate about this topic, as I’ve even seen some parents putting their children in pushchairs by the swimming pools glued to an iPad, when they could be swimming and having fun with their parents or siblings.

Parenting can be really tough, but somehow I think government intervention is required as this is such a vicious cycle, what future are we preparing our children for???

Simple alternatives to iPad/Tablet entertainment:

Play doh
Stickers
Books
Playing cards
Colouring books
Drawing

Absolutely BAN iPads & Tablets for children.

OP posts:
han01uk · 11/06/2018 14:08

Please don't ban them OP.

Perhaps months of having a child in isolation receiving chemotherapy might change your mind. There's only so many bloody sticker books and colouring that will keep them entertained.

I'm all for moderation,but perhaps judging others isn't the right way to go about changing what matters to you. Just do it for yourselves and feel smug that we are all ruining our children by letting them have some screen time.

Sirzy · 11/06/2018 14:34

You know I don’t believe pda has any experience of autism because anyone with even a basic knowledge wouldn’t believe the shit she is talking!

Leoparda · 11/06/2018 14:54

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HollyGibney · 11/06/2018 15:22

@PathologicalDemandAvoidance

I missed your deleted comment, probably a good thing.

I'm saying that instead of sticking headphones into your child should they be a bit difficult at the table in public then, instead, engage with them MORE instead of less and you might find the difficult behavior lessons, as in my case. It's that simple. Twist it into all sorts of other things if it placates you.

The above though, do you understand that with many children with autism the only way to deal with them when they're struggling is to reduce verbal communication and demands, that they reach a point where they are simply unable to process anymore instruction or verbal input, that is backed up like a dam and if you continue to overload, you will push your child into crisis? Your opinion and advice is actually dangerous and damaging for many children with autism. As I said previously, I home educate my child and have resented having to be monitored by our local authority given how they failed my child so comprehensively themselves, I do it for an easy life, but I read your posts and I can see why it is necessary for some level of monitoring for some parents. Oh and fwiw your poor child probably wishes you'd STFU and stop "engaging" with her so constantly but I suspect you are unwilling or in fact not able to read those cues.

zzzzz · 11/06/2018 15:23

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Sirzy · 11/06/2018 15:25

And forcing someone to cope in places and situations they find uncomfortable isn’t going to “cure” them, infact it is just going to store up more problems further down the line. Conditioning children to behave in a certain way because ‘society’ says they should can be really damaging

ICantCopeAnymore · 11/06/2018 16:02

If anyone thinks that adults can learn coding quickly, they haven't seen a staff room full of teachers on a Scratch Inset Day Grin

Gretol · 11/06/2018 16:52

Adults don't need to learn coding.

lhavepassport · 11/06/2018 16:59

I don't want to tell parents how to parent their own dc with sn sizzy but as someone who has been socially anxious for my whole life I actually find continual exposure and practice in situations that I find uncomfortable the absolute best way of managing this. Avoidance only leads to more avoidance, where as doing things I find scary enables me to lead a much fuller life. Others will be different of course but I benefit from continuous uncomfortable exposure.

JacquesHammer · 11/06/2018 17:03

Adults don't need to learn coding

A PP suggested that kids didn't need to learn to code because an adult can "learn to code quickly" which is patently incorrect.

If an adult wants to learn coding, it isn't a do a quick course and off you go situation!

zzzzz · 11/06/2018 17:27

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ICantCopeAnymore · 11/06/2018 17:32

Adults don't need to learn coding

Oh don't they?

If you're the law on adults not needing to learn coding, you'd better inform the county that I teach in, as we've all been learning to code for the last few years as part of our job roles.

Leoparda · 11/06/2018 17:57

Adults don't need to learn coding?

Erm.. who do you think builds all the webpages and databases that your computers, smart phones and tablets use?

Never mind all the databases companies use world wide?

I'll give you a clue, its not robots.. or ants!

zzzzz · 11/06/2018 18:51

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mamahanji · 11/06/2018 19:47

I couldn't give a tiny rats arse if someone thinks I'm an awful parent for letting my toddler watch peppa pig while I eat.

I eat. She eats. We all have a nice time.

How fucking awful.

RebelRogue · 11/06/2018 20:13

What really bugs me in these kind of talk is the generalisation an£hyperboles.

You kid has access to tech means you are a lazy parent that never does anything for/with your kid and they will grow up to be fat,brain dead zombies ,socially inept and future sex offenders. Because finding a happy medium is apparently impossible.

Give your kid tech or not,it's irrelevant. But don't you dare judge my child and her abilities by some made up preconception you have in your head.

WTFnnoh · 11/06/2018 20:56

Give all the children iPads!! Especially when eating out. No one wants to listen to a shrieking child while they’re trying to enjoy a meal. I’d much rather the kids were plugged in than bored and wailing. I’m 100% certain that these holiday kids also played in the pool and enjoyed trips etc with their family. I highly doubt they were locked in a room staring at a screen for the entire holiday whilst their parents swanned off and pleased themselves. Let everyone enjoy a meal in peace and leave the kid’s iPads alone.

Shmithecat · 12/06/2018 10:37

mamahanji

Exactly.

Lethaldrizzle · 12/06/2018 10:53

'No one wants to listen to a shrieking child when enjoying a meal' - couldn't agree more but there is an alternative way to keep kids quiet that doesn't involve Peppa pig and roblox

JacquesHammer · 12/06/2018 11:26

No one wants to listen to a shrieking child when enjoying a meal' - couldn't agree more but there is an alternative way to keep kids quiet that doesn't involve Peppa pig and roblox

I feel like I need a badge. For SOME children. Jeepers it’s like Groundhog Day

differentnameforthis · 12/06/2018 11:38

Use your imagination @PathologicalDemandAvoidance

You know that quote "when you've met a child with autism, you've met ONE child with autism" That means, that what works for your child with autism, may not work for my child with autism, or other children with autism.

My child was sexually assaulted by a relative 100% because of the internet. I disagree. It's like when men blame alcohol for being violent. It's a factor, yes. But it is not the cause.

The internet did not cause your daughter's sexual assault. The relative did. The internet may have given him ideas, it may have acted as some kind of "permission" for him, but he did it because of who he is. Not because the internet told him to. Again, many sympathies, I have experienced what sexual assault does to families.

Sadly, his childhood is not unusual. Actually it is. No child I know is anything like the one you described. Also, his parents are obviously part of the problem, celebrating him knowing sexual positions at 10 is not normal and is absolutely unusual.

I am more likely to be criticized online for my style of parenting than someone who goes for the internet n the bedroom and delight in sexualisation style. In actual fact, YOU are the only one criticizing for parenting choices. We are telling you that we all parent differently. We are criticizing you for not seeing our POV.

You are now telling us that our children are delighting in "sexualisation" style (what?) because we allow them to access the internet. It's nonsense. There is a HUGE world out there on the WWW that has zero to do with sex. I can 100% hand on heart tell you that neither of my children have accessed porn on their devices.

differentnameforthis · 12/06/2018 11:44

'No one wants to listen to a shrieking child when enjoying a meal' - couldn't agree more but there is an alternative way to keep kids quiet that doesn't involve Peppa pig and roblox

in some cases but hey, why not let us parent our kids, because ultimately only I (and dh) know what is best for my child.

Just like zzzzz knows what is best for hers.

And come to it, PDA knows what is best for hers.

Because I am not an expert in autism. But I am an expert in my daughter.

Perhaps next time you see a child enjoying peppa pig on an ipad, you might want to remember who her experts are. Clue...it's not you.

Chalkitup · 12/06/2018 14:03

Well said differentname!

antigame · 20/02/2019 06:43

You are falling victim to a very common fallacy. The same reaction you are having to mobile devices was given to books of all things when they became popular amongst the youth. The world didn't collapse then, and it hasn't collapsed now. "Every Every Every Generation Has Been the Me Me Me Generation", The Atlantic
Like I always suggest: have a discussion with your child, and believe them if they say they can handle something.

IncrediblySadToo · 20/02/2019 06:56

😖antigame. WTAF would you revive this ZOMBIE load of goady shite? Not clicking on your link. It could be anything!

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