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To ask why the NHS funds viagra?

129 replies

crunchymint · 05/06/2018 22:01

Yes only men who are impotent due to medical problems get viagra on the NHS. But last year there were nearly 3 million prescriptions issued for viagra. Is this really the best use of NHS money?

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Donotbequotingmeinbold · 05/06/2018 22:04

What? Why wouldn't they give them Viagra?

crunchymint · 05/06/2018 22:06

Because nobody needs to have sex.It is hardly a medical need.

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DuchyDuke · 05/06/2018 22:06

2 forms: one treats erectile dysfunction and is for men. Other treats pulmonary hypertension & is used by everyone.

MoistCantaloupe · 05/06/2018 22:08

They have a medical problem. That’s what the NHS is for. Very reasonable I think.

LadyLucille · 05/06/2018 22:08

Interesting... given the ‘why does the NHS fund IVF thread’ going on at the moment...

crunchymint · 05/06/2018 22:08

The second form is treating a health need. I didn't know it was used for that. I was talking about using it for penetrative sex.

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Rinoachicken · 05/06/2018 22:09

But lack of sex could lead to poor mental health, relationship breakdowns etc which could in turn lead to depression, which then is a medical issue

whatwouldbe · 05/06/2018 22:09

Viagra is for men!

Lots of things get attention on the NHS if they affect men instead of women!

MyOtherUsernameisaPun · 05/06/2018 22:09

What's with all the weird threads questioning the NHS today?

Impotence is a medical issue. Viagra is the treatment. Why would we not treat it?

There isn't a magical hierarchy of which medical needs are more worthy than others of being met. And even if there was, impotence would still be a reasonable thing to treat.

Ifonlyfor1day · 05/06/2018 22:09

I am sure there are lots of things precribed that are not the best use of NHS money.

Impotent men lose self confidence, Their marriage can break down, it can lead to depression and so on which the NHS would have to treat.

It is not rocket science.

Passmeabrew · 05/06/2018 22:10

Since all the cutbacks and stopping the issuing of prescriptions for anything you can buy at a pharmacy they ahve really cracked down on this though. The patient can only get a max of 4 tablets a month and it has to be related to a medical condition.

crunchymint · 05/06/2018 22:10

Lucille Yep. This one almost never gets questioned. But plenty of people don't have sex. Often because they don't have a partner. We don't see that as a medical need.
And you can buy viagra over the counter. You could just as well argue that women who have issues orgasming because of medical problems, should get vibrators on the NHS.

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bastardkitty · 05/06/2018 22:10

It's out of licence. It's not even expensive. What's wrong with funding it?

AcrossthePond55 · 05/06/2018 22:11

For the same reason that (here in the US) medicine for erectile dysfunction is covered by insurance companies and (prior to the ACA) many insurers didn't cover the pill. Because a man's 'right' to be able to have sex is sacrosanct, but a woman's right to NOT be impregnated by that man is not.

Snowysky20009 · 05/06/2018 22:11

It's now available without prescription so men can buy it over the counter.

crunchymint · 05/06/2018 22:11

whatwouldbe My thoughts exactly!

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Rinoachicken · 05/06/2018 22:12

*Viagra is for men!

Lots of things get attention on the NHS if they affect men instead of women!*

Oh don’t be so ridiculous. Women experiencing difficulties having penetrative sex, due to dryness or other things, also get NHS treatment to help them be able to enjoy a full sex life.

crunchymint · 05/06/2018 22:13

Chicken No they don't. They get told to buy lubricating gel from their own pocket.

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ShatnersBassoon · 05/06/2018 22:13

The NHS doesn't and shouldn't deal only with disease- and death-prevention.

What about treatments for acne and similar skin conditions? They're not strictly necessary in many cases, but can greatly improve the quality of someone's life.

FatherMackenzie · 05/06/2018 22:14

I’m guessing this is inspired by the IVF thread.

The NHS doesn’t just provide essential, as in life or death, or emergency treatment.

Why should acne medication be available on the NHS? Why do we treat psoriasis? It doesn’t have to be life threatening to potentially damage your quality of life.

FatherMackenzie · 05/06/2018 22:14

X post @shatners!

Rinoachicken · 05/06/2018 22:14

Because it’s cheaper than them paying for a prescription! And it depends on what the problem actually is, not everything can be solved with lubrication, but the treatment is there!

Rinoachicken · 05/06/2018 22:15

Don’t know why I’m bothering tbh, this is very quickly showing itself to just be a GF anti-men thread

ShatnersBassoon · 05/06/2018 22:17

Quite ^

crunchymint · 05/06/2018 22:17

chicken vaginusmus is treated. Nothing else. Because it is all about men being able to have penetrative sex.
So go to the Dr and say you can't orgasm for medical reasons, and they wouldn't be interested.

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