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The slog of this authoritarian shitshow is grinding us all down. My inspiration has gone into hiding with Melania. Knock yourselves out! (Trump cont.)

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boatyardblues · 05/06/2018 21:57

Does what it says on the tin. 🤷‍♂️

Here’s the last thread: www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/3258057-I-Spy-with-My-Little-Eye-Something-Beginning-with-T-Traitorous-Treasonweasels-in-Trumptown-Trump-contd

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Gumpendorf · 07/06/2018 07:31

This is weird and mesmerising

I am laughing so goddamn hard at this video of Trump inexplicably putting his water bottle on the floor, and Pence immediately doing the same for no reason whatsoever. twitter.com/jules_su/status/1004475500721401856/photo/1

ohmymimi · 07/06/2018 07:57

Josh Dawsey
@jdawsey1
Trump is not happy to go to G7. He is griping about Trudeau, musing about punishing Canada & saying Canada trip will be useless. He doesn't want to be lectured. He has also griped about Macron and May. W/⁦*@PhilipRucker⁩ & ⁦*@AshleyRParker⁩:

Trump complains about traveling to Canada ahead of Singapore summit with Kim
washingtonpost.com
3:50 am · 7 Jun 2018

mobile.twitter.com/jdawsey1/status/1004556069035741184

ohmymimi · 07/06/2018 08:06

Rachael Bade
@rachaelmbade
These are the docs @SpeakerRyan referenced today/said he wanted to ensure spygate is not a thing ->
Kyle Cheney
@kyledcheney
NEWS: DOJ is preparing a 2nd briefing for top lawmakers about the Trump campaign informant -- and says it will provide new documents that they didn't see last time.

Story coming -->
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mobile.twitter.com/rachaelmbade/status/1004580258023137280

ohmymimi · 07/06/2018 08:12

GOP congressman blasts Trump’s spy conspiracy
www.politico.com/story/2018/06/06/trump-spygate-rooney-629550

ohmymimi · 07/06/2018 08:15

Josh Dawsey
@jdawsey1
Hannity suggests that Mueller witnesses, targets etc. destroy evidence.
mobile.twitter.com/jdawsey1/status/1004540871898025985

ohmymimi · 07/06/2018 08:34

Thread:

Matthew Chapman
@fawfulfan

'Believe it or not, Trump's insane proclamation that he will keep tariffs in place until there are no more Mercedes on Fifth Avenue gave me a moment of clarity.

I think I finally understand Trump's economic philosophy now. And we are absolutely screwed.' ....

..... 'He is not just bad at being president, he has a defective way of seeing the world that is not compatible with being president.

And we will pay for it.
mobile.twitter.com/fawfulfan/status/1002502139367837702

ohmymimi · 07/06/2018 09:14

Cuomo v Sneerah Huckster

ohmymimi · 07/06/2018 09:21

'Ret. Lt. Col. Ralph Peters isn’t done taking his former employer to task. A few months after he quit his position as military analyst at Fox News in dramatic fashion—calling the network a “propaganda machine”—he appeared on CNN with Anderson Cooper on Wednesday night and went even further in his condemnation.'
www.thedailybeast.com/ex-fox-news-analyst-ralph-peters-unloads-on-sean-hannity

Col. Ralph Peters:

PerkingFaintly · 07/06/2018 10:20

I'm ShockGrin at that disappearing architect, Fotadis.

"Fly! All is discovered!" – and WHOOSH! off he goes.

Wilkie didn't suspect he'd done anything wrong, she was just asking about his work for Trump on building projects. Now suddenly he looks very interesting indeed.Grin

PerkingFaintly · 07/06/2018 11:16

More of that thread linked by mimi, because I think it's a useful summary, although probably not news to regular readers here...

Matthew Chapman
@fawfulfan
Believe it or not, Trump's insane proclamation that he will keep tariffs in place until there are no more Mercedes on Fifth Avenue gave me a moment of clarity.

I think I finally understand Trump's economic philosophy now. And we are absolutely screwed.

The one thing that you need to understand about Trump is that he is, at his core, a con man with no empathy.

Therefore, he assumes that all other people are also con men with no empathy, and every exchange of goods and services that exists in the world is, on some level, a con.

Trump assumes every transaction in the world — between people, businesses, nation-states, even between two different agencies of the same government — has a winner and a loser, a scammer and a sucker. He believes if you're not ripping someone off, you're getting ripped off.

From an economist's perspective, this is complete nonsense. Unless there are major information asymmetries or distortions of market power, and often even then, most transactions are generally to the mutual benefit of both parties.
Otherwise no deals would ever get made.

But Trump — the man who created a fake university, made stiffed contractors, hired the mob, and filed for bankruptcy six times — cannot believe his.

So he goes out of his way to cherrypick how he sees the world, so that everything we do looks like either a ripoff or a steal.

It's not simply that Trump doesn't think the Paris Climate Agreement, Iran nuclear deal, TPP, NAFTA, or luxury cars from Germany are a good deal for America. It's that he can't think that.

It's an alien concept to him that a deal other people want with us could also help us.

To Trump's mind, the mere fact other countries sought out these deals with us, and that their own economies benefit, is unassailable proof we got ripped off.

He can't see the evidence they helped us too. His mind will only cherry-pick potential ways it could be bad for us.

This is why Trump will never, ever, be able to negotiate with the rest of the world. He doesn't believe in mutual benefit.

The second anyone tells him "this is your end of the deal" he'll rip it up. He believes only one party can have an end of the deal, and it shouldn't be him.

So folks, I hate to tell you this, but he's only getting started.

He will forego billions, maybe trillions, of dollars in world trade. He will forego bilateral security agreements. And if he ever gets something from another nation it will be by force.

As I said: we're screwed.

And we're not just screwed on foreign policy, but domestic. This explains his behavior over DACA, spiking two bipartisan deals even though they were what he asked for.

He assumed if Democrats were willing to talk, his deal wasn't ripping them off, ergo it would rip him off.

That implies if Democrats win Congress, we are going to enter an all-out legislative standstill like we've never before seen.

Our system is entirely reliant on compromise and compromise isn't compatible with Trump's beliefs. We will struggle to pass even basic reauthorizations.

So yeah: our nightmare is not going to end until we get this pathological con man out of office.

He is not just bad at being president, he has a defective way of seeing the world that is not compatible with being president.

Gumpendorf · 07/06/2018 11:23

Just look at Rudy Giuliani- I mean just who....?

And didn't Melania effectively sell her body before Trump? Angry

https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/06/politics/giuliani-stormy-daniels-trump-melania/index.html

Roussette · 07/06/2018 12:07

Perking I need to save this post somewhere because I agree totally with all that you have said, you are so right. His view, because of his personality disorder and the way he's operated in the past, is totally and utterly skewed. This is why you need someone who has served their country in some way, to be POTUS, and it should never ever again be a ruthless but failed business man.

SheGotBetteDavisEyes · 07/06/2018 12:27

Perking you've articulated my thoughts so well, great comment.

I think that underpinning his conduct is someone more or less devoid of normal social/emotional engagement.

He is not just bad at being president, he has a defective way of seeing the world that is not compatible with being president

This has such clarity ^^.

PerkingFaintly · 07/06/2018 12:28

Wise words were from this Tweeter: mobile.twitter.com/fawfulfan/status/1002502139367837702

(Sorry, should have repeated URL in post above.)

PerkingFaintly · 07/06/2018 12:30

Gah. Clickable: mobile.twitter.com/fawfulfan/status/1002502139367837702

ohmymimi · 07/06/2018 12:34

thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/391036-trump-offers-public-praise-to-pruitt

Word is T. wants Pruitt for AG when/if he ditches Beauregard. He would need Senate confirmation. Imagine that, this cheap, greedy, corrupt, excuse for a life form, now under investigation for 12 abuses of power, a possible chief law officer of the US, in the eyes of POTUS. Hmm

Roussette · 07/06/2018 12:53

It doesn't matter Perking, you found it and it's so true!

AcrossthePond55 · 07/06/2018 13:36

That is as true and concise an evaluation of Scrotus as I've ever read. Down to a 'T'. And that's T as in terrifying. You cannot 'reach' someone with such immutable beliefs.

ohmymimi · 07/06/2018 17:54

'Trump on #NorthKoreaSummit: “I don't think I have to prepare very much. It's about attitude.” '
5:45 pm · 7 Jun 2018
mobile.twitter.com/jimsciutto/status/1004766401243045888

ohmymimi · 07/06/2018 17:59

Comforting:
'Trump and Bolton spurn top-level North Korea planning
After two months on the job, Trump’s new national security adviser has not called a single Cabinet-level National Security Council meeting on North Korea.'
www.politico.com/story/2018/06/07/trump-bolton-north-korea-630362

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