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The slog of this authoritarian shitshow is grinding us all down. My inspiration has gone into hiding with Melania. Knock yourselves out! (Trump cont.)

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boatyardblues · 05/06/2018 21:57

Does what it says on the tin. 🤷‍♂️

Here’s the last thread: www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/3258057-I-Spy-with-My-Little-Eye-Something-Beginning-with-T-Traitorous-Treasonweasels-in-Trumptown-Trump-contd

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ohmymimi · 18/06/2018 13:54

@KatyTurNBC

Padilla: Every parent gets "a sheet"w info on where their kids are.

@CBSThisMorning
How is it okay for the children to be taken away their parent without information?
PADILLA: "That's misinformation"

@GAYLEKING: "I had parent after parent tell me that they weren't told where their child is going...you're saying they're not telling the truth to me?"
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mobile.twitter.com/KatyTurNBC/status/1008683288842637312

ohmymimi · 18/06/2018 13:59

Ted brings it:

@tedlieu
Dear @SecNielsen: You are lying. Period.

How do we know you are lying Sec Nielsen? Because Stephen Miller pushed for the policy change & AG Sessions gleefully announced it.

Also, 2000 kids didn't voluntarily decide to leave their parents. You forced the separation. Get it?
mobile.twitter.com/tedlieu/status/1008506638980898816

Lweji · 18/06/2018 15:24

Officials quoting a holy text to justify repressive policies is something we who grew up in the Arab world have seen before

www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/jun/18/trump-american-caliphate-democracy-arab-world

And as more stories come out, how can they do this to children?
A young girl separated from her aunt at a Border Patrol facility had to get her diapers changed by other children

www.businessinsider.com/immigration-children-diapers-2018-6

Gumpendorf · 18/06/2018 15:53

This story is breaking my heart. I can't believe human beings can be so lacking in basic humanity to support this and use it as a blatant political tactic. It's just mind blowing.

There is so much else happening Trump interfering in German politics as his ambassador foreshadowed a couple of weeks ago , but I can't focus on anything else atm. I hope the media keep the focus on this and the pressure on the WH and resist all the attempts to distract.

It's a new low, and shows up the nastiness, meanest and sheer depravity of this WH. 😢🤯

BoreOfWhabylon · 18/06/2018 17:42

Radio 4 PM discussing this now.

lionheart · 18/06/2018 17:46

Old guard, old style.

Jeb Bush

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@JebBush

'Children shouldn’t be used as a negotiating tool. @realDonaldTrump should end this heartless policy and Congress should get an immigration deal done that provides for asylum reform, border security and a path to citizenship for Dreamers.'

ohmymimi · 18/06/2018 17:51

'Embattled DHS Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen has been willing "to stretch the bounds of credulity" in defending family separation and attacking journalists for reporting what they see to get in Trump's good graces, @AaronBlake writes'
mobile.twitter.com/PhilipRucker/status/1008739313314648064

www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2018/06/18/the-grim-desperation-of-kirstjen-nielsen/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.6f5c4e3e9250

ohmymimi · 18/06/2018 18:03

'We will not apologize': Trump DHS chief defends immigration policy

amp.cnn.com/cnn/2018/06/18/politics/kirstjen-nielsen-immigration-policy/index.html?__twitter_impression=true

ohmymimi · 18/06/2018 18:19

9-0 decision:
'So it’s a punt: Supreme court sidestepped two major cases concerning partisan gerrymandering, allowing challenged maps in two states to stand for now.'
mobile.twitter.com/jimsciutto/status/1008720422672719872

edition.cnn.com/2018/06/18/politics/supreme-court-gerrymandering-decision/index.html

ohmymimi · 18/06/2018 18:23

Inmate no. 45343:
'What life is like for Paul Manafort in jail'
amp.cnn.com/cnn/2018/06/16/politics/paul-manafort-virginia-jail-life/index.html?__twitter_impression=true

ohmymimi · 18/06/2018 18:36

'The U.S. Supreme Court took a pass on setting limits on extreme partisan gerrymandering on Monday, saying the plaintiffs in the case didn’t have standing to challenge Wisconsin’s statewide assembly map.

The decision came in a case called Gill v. Whitford, which advocates had hoped would allow the court to clarify if partisan gerrymandering could be so egregious that it violated the U.S. Constitution. The court has never said partisan gerrymandering is unconstitutional, leaving lawmakers from both political parties free to draw lines to their advantage.

Even though the court said the 12 plaintiffs couldn’t challenge the entire statewide assembly map, it sent the case back to a lower court to evaluate their claims of standing to bring forward a gerrymandering case for their district. The decision to dismiss the case for lack of standing was unanimous. The decision to send the case back to the lower court for further consideration was 7-2, with Justices Clarence Thomas and Neil Gorsuch dissenting.'

www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/supreme-court-gerrymandering_us_5afee029e4b0463cdba14419

lionheart · 18/06/2018 18:37

How do I locate my children?

The slog of this authoritarian shitshow is grinding us all down. My inspiration has gone into hiding with Melania. Knock yourselves out! (Trump cont.)
ohmymimi · 18/06/2018 18:39

'Defiant Trump refuses to back off migrant family separations'

‘The United States will not be a migrant camp,’ the president said

www.politico.com/story/2018/06/18/trump-immigration-child-separations-650875

lionheart · 18/06/2018 18:45

Judd Legum

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31m31 minutes ago

UPDATE: All 49 Democrats have signed on as co-sponsors to the Keep Families Together Act, which would end family separation at the border.

There are ZERO Republican cosponsors

ohmymimi · 18/06/2018 18:49

Trump speech today. Has subtitles to watch with sound down. Pence doesn't take his eyes off him, utterly, sycophantically creepy.

lionheart · 18/06/2018 18:51

www.nbcboston.com/news/local/Gov-Charlie-Baker-Wont-Send-National-Guard-to-Border-Citing-Cruel-and-Inhumane-Actions-of-Trump-Administration-485838361.html

'Republican Massachusetts Gov. Charlie Baker said he will not send the Massachusetts National Guard to the U.S.-Mexico border due to the "cruel and inhumane" decision by the Trump administration to separate children from their parents as families arrive at the border.'

ohmymimi · 18/06/2018 19:02

Whoa, O'Reilly's heart still beats occasionally:
@BillOReilly
'The government should know how bad this looks and how innocent children are actually suffering. That kind of scenario is unacceptable to most Americans as exemplified by former First Lady Laura Bush’s withering criticism.'
mobile.twitter.com/BillOReilly/status/1008715340606566403

lionheart · 18/06/2018 19:26

She's something else.

lionheart · 18/06/2018 19:30

Hillary and Michelle have waded into the water.

'“Separating families is not mandated by law at all. That is an outright lie and it’s incumbent on all of us, journalists and citizens alike, to call it just that." — @HillaryClinton decries family separation, continuing her lifelong fight on behalf of kids'
MSNBC

And Michelle Obama responds to Laura Bush:

Michelle Obama
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@MichelleObama
42m42 minutes ago

'Sometimes truth transcends party.'

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