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The slog of this authoritarian shitshow is grinding us all down. My inspiration has gone into hiding with Melania. Knock yourselves out! (Trump cont.)

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boatyardblues · 05/06/2018 21:57

Does what it says on the tin. 🤷‍♂️

Here’s the last thread: www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/3258057-I-Spy-with-My-Little-Eye-Something-Beginning-with-T-Traitorous-Treasonweasels-in-Trumptown-Trump-contd

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Roussette · 14/06/2018 08:40

TRUMP: "He's a tough guy. Hey, when you take over a country, tough country, tough people, and you take it over from your father ... if you could do that at 27-years old, I mean, that's 1 in 10,000 that could do that."

Doc0822
@RodGoldman

  1. It's true that America often fails to live up to the values set forth in our Declaration of Independence & Constitution, but this nation has reached a critical point when a US president praises and validates a murderous dictator by saying he has to run his country "tough"...
  1. The values articulated in the Founding Documents are the guideposts our our country, the reason we protest to hold our fellow citizens accountable to their intent. It's also our moral basis for holding other nations accountable to respect human rights...
  1. When an American president sides with one that is the living definition of evil and lack of regard for humanity, it indicates that that president has no respect for the values upon which this nation was founded, making them unfit to hold the office...
  1. This is beyond politics and political parties, this is a critical moment in the future of America, what we will represent going forward and the environment in which our children and descendents will live well into this century...
  1. The destiny of America is being decided now and it's not looking good right now..we as involved citizens have the power to fix this.
ohmymimi · 14/06/2018 08:42

Pompeo's full remarks:

Special Briefing
Mike Pompeo
Secretary of State
Hilton Hotel
Seoul, South Korea
June 13, 2018
www.state.gov/secretary/remarks/2018/06/283183.htm

ohmymimi · 14/06/2018 08:57

I'm just a guy who can't say no.
Rudy's back:

'Giuliani says “I can’t tell you” on Fox when asked if Trump green-lighted Cohen’s Trump tower Moscow effort.'
mobile.twitter.com/arappeport/status/1007086080468946946

PerkingFaintly · 14/06/2018 09:01

Um, OK, so Pompeo actually said jack shit.

Other than having a few pokes at the press.

ohmymimi · 14/06/2018 09:56

www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-us-canada-40127876/trump-explains-why-us-pulling-out-of-paris-accord

At CPAC: President Trump has listed his decision last June to withdraw from the Paris Agreement on climate change high among his first-year accomplishments, describing the deal as “totally disastrous, job killing, wealth knocking out”

'Antarctica Is Melting Three Times as Fast as a Decade Ago.
The continent’s rate of ice loss is speeding up, which is contributing even more to rising sea levels.'
www.nytimes.com/2018/06/13/climate/antarctica-ice-melting-faster.html?WT.nav=top-news&action=click&clickSource=story-heading&hp&module=first-column-region&pgtype=Homepage&region=top-news#commentsContainer

www.nytimes.com/1981/08/22/us/study-finds-warming-trend-that-could-raise-sea-levels.html
www.nytimes.com/1988/06/24/us/global-warming-has-begun-expert-tells-senate.html

ohmymimi · 14/06/2018 11:28

On T.'s affinity for brutal authoritarian and fascists, bolstered by specious equivialence, there is a good analysis here, Claws and Roussette :

AP Analysis: Trump retreats from US moral leadership stance

'Instead of using the summit spotlight to demand that Kim protect basic liberties, Trump offered a moral equivocation that evoked the kid-gloves approach he has also taken in meetings with other authoritarians for whom he has expressed admiration. Like Rodrigo Duterte of the Philippines, for example, and Xi Jinping of China. And King Salman of Saudi Arabia.

The template was established a year ago in Riyadh on Trump's first international trip.

"We are not here to lecture," he said then. "We are not here to tell other people how to live, what to do, who to be or how to worship. Instead, we are here to offer partnership, based on shared interests and values." '
apnews.com/amp/9211dcbb2fde4410b30a061bc3036d9f?__twitter_impression=true
(What T. actually meant by that last sentence:
'Instead, I am here to offer any partnership that I can exploit for my own advantage, empowerment and enrichment, based solely on my shared interests and values, with no regard for the consequences for anything beyond that aim')

ohmymimi · 14/06/2018 11:31

equivalence

Lweji · 14/06/2018 12:04

On basic facts.

The truth is, as in the clip, basic facts deniers will probably get screwed in the long run. Sadly, as in the case of climate change, affecting many more people.

Lweji · 14/06/2018 12:16

And Colbert has a better alternative propaganda video:

twitter.com/twitter/statuses/1006747288213995521

ohmymimi · 14/06/2018 13:28

V. clever twist in that vid., Lweji, but the lead up is scarily close to the reality of the United States of Altfacts.

Gumpendorf · 14/06/2018 13:34

And so...

Analysis | In a new poll, half of Republicans say they would support postponing the 2020 election if Trump proposed it http://wapo.st/2wFNQ4i?tid=sstw&utmm_term=.3666721ca9fc #Beyond100Days

Lweji · 14/06/2018 14:13
Shock
ohmymimi · 14/06/2018 15:14

'Once upon a time when a frightened mother or a small child saw someone with an American Flag on their arm, they knew they were finally safe. These child detention centers are deeply contrary to the ideals of this country. The are immoral policies from an amoral President'
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Replying to @SteveSchmidtSES
'I'm sorry, Steve, but 45 is only a symptom; these detention camps illustrate our failure as a nation. I grew up with stories asking how the German people could be so oblivious to the horror wrought in their own back yards. Now we know, because we have become those Good Germans...'
mobile.twitter.com/SteveSchmidtSES/status/1007177466983735296

ohmymimi · 14/06/2018 15:39

She's ordered the cake for her farewell bash:
'Does @CBSNews know something I don’t about my plans and my future? I was at my daughter’s year-end Kindergarten event and they ran a story about my “plans to leave the WH” without even talking to me. I love my job and am honored to work for @POTUS'
mobile.twitter.com/PressSec/status/1007062893001609216

Sleipnirthewonderhorse · 14/06/2018 15:50

Reuters Top News
@Reuters
JUST IN: New York attorney general files lawsuit against President Trump, family members and Donald J. Trump Foundation

Reuters Top News
@Reuters
MORE: New York state attorney general accuses the Foundation, its directors and officers of violating laws governing charities
3:40 pm · 14 Jun 2018
mobile.twitter.com/Reuters/status/1007271529267286017

ohmymimi · 14/06/2018 16:04
Star 'BREAKING: New York AG announces lawsuit against Donald J. Trump Foundation and its board of directors over alleged violations of state and federal law, including "willful self-dealing transactions to benefit Mr. Trump’s personal and business interests." ' mobile.twitter.com/NBCNews/status/1007276279920513026
ohmymimi · 14/06/2018 16:09

The petition:
mobile.twitter.com/NBCNews/status/1007276279920513026/photo/1

Sleipnirthewonderhorse · 14/06/2018 16:12

Attorney General Underwood Announces Lawsuit Against Donald J. Trump Foundation And Its Board Of Directors For Extensive And Persistent Violations Of State And Federal Law
Lawsuit Seeks Restitution of $2.8 Million Plus Penalties

AG’s Office Sends Referral Letters to Internal Revenue Service and Federal Election Commission for Further Investigation and Legal Action

In Light Of Misconduct And Total Lack of Oversight, Lawsuit Seeks To Dissolve Donald J. Trump Foundation and Bar Donald J. Trump And Members Of Trump Foundation’s Board Of Directors From Serving On Board Of Any Other New York charity

ag.ny.gov/press-release/attorney-general-underwood-announces-lawsuit-against-donald-j-trump-foundation-and-its

ohmymimi · 14/06/2018 16:23

Oh, and happy birthday El Presidente Grin

'Leaked IG report findings obtained by Bloomberg say here’s no evidence political bias affected any aspect of the Clinton probe, despite some questionable conduct.' (link: www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-06-14/comey-broke-from-fbi-procedures-in-clinton-probe-watchdog-finds?utm_content=politics&utm_campaign=socialflow-organic&cmpid%3D=socialflow-twitter-politics&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter) bloomberg.com/news/articles/…

mobile.twitter.com/kyledcheney/status/1007267991564771328