To be unhappy my child's phone was confiscated?

[Phoneproblems]

I have no issues with the phone itself being confiscated but apparently it is only to be returned on Friday - surely this cannot be right?

Sadly lanbury from some the parents on this thread I am guessing many blame the school not the child when that happens!

Did you read and sign the school contract when your child started the school?

As other have said, support the school.

I dread to think what shite rules schools will have in place when my DC start school sad Great, what a supportive parent you sound. Will your child be the snowflake who can't take discipline and be the first in your local paper with a sad face over some slight you feel the school has caused because they can't have the right hair cut/footwear etc

It's school policy.

You have to support the school, otherwise you are sending a message that anything goes.

Op- and what if one of those girls could be in serious danger if her photo is innocently shared on line?

And do you expect the school to use a crystal ball to establish that in 3 weeks time when they have a petty squabble those photos won't be shared for bullying online?

Or next week when the dc who is taking photos to use maliciously is caught, but says it was just an innocent photo, do school say 'well, naturally we psychically knew ops dd was telling the truth, but know you're lying'

No, of course not which is why there is a blanket rule

One of the biggest problems with smart phones, even in primary is bullying. Passing messages and pictures between chats etc. What happens online in the evening continuing at school. This can get so nasty with very serious consequences. Personally i wish thete would be a nationwide ban on smart phones for kids at school. A £15 cheap call and text phone is enough for safety but stops a lot of misuse.
Except in exceptional circumstances teachers should not have their phones out, like most workers. There are also safeguarding concerns of smart phones being on during lessons so never should pictures be taken.

The thing is technology dictates that you rely on your phone.
Sometimes my dc aren't sure if they are doing their after school activity so yes they will text me and say I'll be back at x time.
Or if I'm not going to be in I'll text and tell them if you haven't got keys your locked out till I'm back.

The office would be pretty pissed off with kids asking them to pass those kinds of messages that we have come to rely on in this day and age.

If they ever go out without their phones I ask where you going who with when will you be back. I don't question so much when they've got their phone coz I no I can't contact them if I need to.

As a teacher, my ‘warped mind’ has come from years of experience working with teenagers in schools. You really have no idea. Safeguarding related to mobile phones is a massive issue we all have extensive training on. Your ignorance on the subject doesn’t mean there are excellent reasons why the school has a mobile phone policy OP. Taking photographs of other people on school premises was the safeguarding issue here. Do you really not understand why people can’t take photos of other children without written consent from their parents or carers on the school premises? This sadly constitutes a serious threat to some of the young people I have worked with. These things would not be communicated to you or your daughter quite rightly. This is why there are policies in place to protect all the students. Is this a concept that you cannot follow?

Oh for good ness sake.

Give it back at the end of the day, what when they can't use it in lessons anyway, so basically no punishment?.

People need to be taught actions have consequences. Your child will think twice about breaking rhe rules next tine. They won't if you demand the phone is given back at the end of the day, when they wouldn't have been using it in the inbetween period anyway.

Why would she adhere to the rules next time, when she knows she can just take pics, then hand it over for lessons and get it back at the end of the day.

Parents who want to absolve their kids of Any form of personal. Responsbility do them no favours at all. None,

I'm very sorry it but it's not our warped minds

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/education-36527681

An excerpt of the article

"About 53% of 11- to 16-year-olds have seen explicit material online, nearly all of whom (94%) had seen it by 14, the Middlesex University study says.

The research, commissioned by the NSPCC and the children's commissioner for England, said many teenagers were at risk of becoming desensitised to porn.

One 11-year-old girl told researchers: "I didn't like it because it came on by accident and I don't want my parents to find out and the man looked like he was hurting her. He was holding her down and she was screaming and swearing."

A 13-year-old boy said: "One of my friends has started treating women like he sees on the videos - not major - just a slap here or there."

So yes- 11 year olds. And 13 isn't far off for you either. Awareness of these things is crucial in prevention op.

The school are correct to confiscate the phone. You should back them up.

Phone I think you are missing the point here.

The school obviously have good reason to put a blanket ban in place over misuse of mobile phones in school. There are so many scenarios of where children and parents could argue "but they were only doing xyz.." which is why it is probably a blanket ban.

They are school rules and every pupil has to abide by them or, like anything in real life, they have to accept the consequences.

If they said "oh ok you were only doing that, here's your phone," then it would completely undermine their rules and authority as a whole.

Kids need to learn because when they enter into employment, Mum and dad won't be there to "kick off" at the workplace about "how unfair" the companies policy on certain things are.

Part of being at school is preparing them for future employment and real life. If you go and get the phone and give it to your dc then all that is teaching them is that it's ok to break school rules and they won't respect them in future whereas if the confiscation is followed through it's more than likely they will think twice next time.

Support the school. It creates better adults.

I’m sure if mummy goes into the school and asks for the phone to be returned then it will be.

Out of order Considering you've paid for it why does the school have the right to confiscate it for such a long time! Call them up

Was your daughter unaware of the policy relating to mobile phone usage? I strongly suspect it is even listed in a student handbook or in the front of her student planner. Was she unaware of the consequences for her actions? Is she being treated differently to other students? If the answer is yes to these questions then I would countenance your “blame the school” approach. If not then I wonder what a charming adult you are going to raise. This is how children learn.

Lacey
Why does the child have the right to break the school rules?
That's like complaining your car has been towed away as you parked illegally. Try turning up at the pound and demanding they give you your car back. Well it's yours isn't it?!

Or maybe the OP should focus on teaching the child not to break school rules for no good reason? Don't like the rules? Campaign for change. Bet the school will listen to kids who arse about on their phones when it's not allowed for very good reason.

OP paid for it but the phone was in possession of her child, so the child is responsible for it's usage.

Don't raise your child to be a badly behaved irresponsible person.

Schools don’t make phone policies for the hell of it. Usually there’s lots of discussion and advice sought from professionals and LA. Of the top of my head, one of the most obvious reasons for children not being allowed to take photos of children at school is that some children are protected and we need to be very careful about the distribution of their image. Some parents don’t give their consent for their children to be photographed at school.

Kids need to learn because when they enter into employment, Mum and dad won't be there to "kick off" at the workplace ...

I wouldn't be too sure; because of the sector involved my own staff were older, but I've often spoken to other employers who've experienced parents doing exactly that

It really has come to that, you see; they simply can't accept their DCs - or themselves, come to that - being told "no" in any circumstances at all

Schools can confiscate items sure, what they can’t do is withold them unreasonably from the legal owner. In this case that’s the parent.

OP I’m sure if you go into school tomorrow and discuss this they will act reasonably, demonstrating their professional judgement and return the phone. It’s then up to you if you choose to let your DC have it before the end of the week (and no-one else’s business!)

As a teacher, my ‘warped mind’ has come from years of experience working with teenagers in schools. You really have no idea. Safeguarding related to mobile phones is a massive issue we all have extensive training on. Your ignorance on the subject doesn’t mean there are excellent reasons why the school has a mobile phone policy OP. Taking photographs of other people on school premises was the safeguarding issue here. Do you really not understand why people can’t take photos of other children without written consent from their parents or carers on the school premises? This sadly constitutes a serious threat to some of the young people I have worked with. These things would not be communicated to you or your daughter quite rightly. This is why there are policies in place to protect all the students. Is this a concept that you cannot follow?

@Eemamc, I agree 100%. I often think how much of a shock it would be to some parents if they could actually see how their children behave at school; if they could see what they are capable of.

I have a friend who absolutely refuses to believe that her son is any trouble at school. She says he's bored, isn't challenged enough because he's 'so clever' and that the teachers pick on him. She's an absolutely lovely (if slightly deluded) woman who would be utterly mortified if she could see just how rude and disruptive her son is in school. She'll also be very upset when she realises that he's spent the last 8 months pissing around in school and is really quite far behind now. Doesn't matter how many times she's been told, she just doesn't believe it.

what they can’t do is withold them unreasonably from the legal owner. In this case that’s the parent.

It's not unreasonably. This is a sanction for the phone's use in school.

I bet they don't Dorset.

Ifvthey do then no kid will take the rule seriously and it would be a free for all.

Aside from that if the policy states they get a week's ban then that is what they have to give.

Tried to RTFT but didn’t get through it all. If the school says you don’t use phones during the school day then that’s the rule. Your DC knew the rule and broke it. Back up the school and DC won’t be so nonchalant about breaking school rules in future.

Kids need to learn because when they enter into employment, Mum and dad won't be there to "kick off" at the workplace about "how unfair" the companies policy on certain thing I wish they would learn it! I work in care so obviously many policies around phones, dress code for infection contol reasons, confidentiality etc. Have had mummy ring up for people many times! Some women send their husbands or boyfriends too! One came in kicking off about our no phones policy. When I explainedI couldn't discuss his wifes job with him but suggested if he needed to contact her he could call the work phone. Well he shouted in my face! We're zero tolerance so I called the police.

All those posters who have said their dcs must have their phone on them in order to get to and from school safely, well fine. If it's so important to how your family gets through their days without worry, then how about instilling in your children that if the school says it mustn't be used on the premises, they follow that rule? Problem solved.

This child would still have their phone in their possession if they hadn't disobeyed the rules.

They were innocently taking photographs of them on the field having fun

Pictures that might well have had a child in the background who is not to be photographed in any circumstances. Pictures that could have easily and "innocently" been shared around to put that child at very serious risk of harm. If you aren't able to imagine why that might be, maybe you'd better leave the decision making up to the people who know why having children take photos in a primary school is wrong in every way. No common sense and stuck in your own bubble!