To just think this is shit and unfair

[causeimunderyourspell]

So following on from my previous post where we had a bolt out of the blue from our landlord selling our house, less than 3 months after we moved in. Our contract ends in August and obviously won't be renewed. Anyway apparently they have lots of people who want to view the property and are asking about availability.

Aibu in thinking this just fucking sucks. We'll just have random strangers traipsing in and out of our house, mooching in the cupboards and just generally getting in the way until someone buys it, which is unlikely to be quick as the photos are misleading and it needs a lot of work doing to it.

I have 2 young DC so keeping the place tidy in the week is not always possible. I don't mind so much in the day as we're not there but it's tending to be after work times so what the hell am I supposed to do?! I can't get out as we'll be getting our dc bathed and ready for bed!! Would it be unreasonable to ask that they only do viewings in the day while we're not there or daytime at the weekend?

IME, having no inventory or no signature can be worked with as the LL cannot properly substantiate the condition of the property prior to the tenacy and so will find it hard to make any claims for damages, equally having a good inventory that you have agreed is helpful as it is harder for spurious claims to be made and this should speed up the process.

Re the references, *can I just ask any letting agents out there, if they would question being given a reference that was not from the last address?

I hear what you are saying OP having other good references, but from my experience LL/LAs want a ref from the last known address or they would see it as suspicious.

I wonder what others think about this?

You never know, I’ve managed to negotiate rent reduction so it is possible! In my experience once the LL realises you know your rights they are bending over backwards to work with you. If they want to sell and don’t want the property unoccupied whilst they do so they need you to allow viewings, much more so than you need/want anything from them. In our case we got particularly lucky and negotiated 3 months of reduced rent (the remainder of our tenancy) but the flat sold within a week so virtually no inconvenience to us whatsoever. Fingers crossed you get a similar outcome!

BTW sorry for cross posting earlier. Some sort of glitch I think meant I missed a lot of posts by the time mine posted. Oops

Op as a LL, l have never asked a tenant to accept viewings for sale, until their tenancy had come to an end and they had moved out.

You are under no obligation to allow this, but if it doesn't bother you at certain times then ask for a rent reduction, l would think that fair if l were your LL, and l most certainly wouldn't make it difficult going forward, whatever the choice you took.

You have legal protection to say no, or do it on your terms.

good for you op u shoujldnt have peple t5raipsing in and out when the ll wants

as for the council they rarely give you a place till you have been legally evicted-thats including just leaveing at the end of your lease they call it making yourself intentially homless-so i woldnt rely on that

dodgy keyboard-traipsing

cause so you rang Shelter and they didn't tell you how to raise a new deposit, but did you ask them how to get your existing deposit back ASAP?

cash buyers only means it wont be eligible for a mortgage. there are non landlords who buy for cash. epc e or above?

So I have written to them this evening requesting rent reduction if the landlords intention is to request viewings before our tenancy ends. Also due to the fact we don't have full use of the property - downstairs shower can't be used as that is where the major issue is.

I've also requested early release of our deposit as we are unable to raise those funds again. Fingers and toes crossed!

I wouldnt make an effort to keep the house tidy!

Can your council/local scheme help with a deposit?
england.shelter.org.uk/housing_advice/private_renting/rent_deposit,_bond_and_guarantee_schemes

england.shelter.org.uk/housing_advice/private_renting/rent_deposit,_bond_and_guarantee_schemes

Sorry stray comma in original!

doh! Doesn't like going over 1 line
Link to deposit bond information page

Well done Op

YABVU

The landlord owns the house- you don't . It really is as simple as that. He says jump- you say how high. He has every right to carry out viewings in his own house. I certainly wouldn't entertain any of my tenants refusing viewings.

@Wintry no, it really isn't. You would have no choice but to 'entertain' a tenant refusing viewings as the law states a tenant is perfectly within their rights to do just that. You clearly haven't read the thread at all have you?

Crumbs Wintry. You have tenants and absolutely no grasp of the law. Shocks me how many people become landlords without bothering to find out about their tenants' rights.

wintry. It’s Landlords like you give us all a bad name. Tenants are not paying for a hotel room. It’s their home. You can’t impose on them whenever you feel like it. Jeeez!

@RNBrie

It's not just about 'rights' in the strict sense. For one thing, most tenants don't know about these 'rights'. A tenant can also have all the fights in the world, but the landlord really holds all the trump cards as they can make life very unpleasant for tenants if so desired whether it's by withholding deposits, removing items or disruptive 'maintenance'.

@Wintry You're aware you're talking utter rubbish, right? In more ways than one...

@Wintry

"He has every right to carry out viewings in his own house."

No, he doesn't.

"I certainly wouldn't entertain any of my tenants refusing viewings."

Well, they can.

" they can make life very unpleasant for tenants if so desired whether it's by withholding deposits"

Deposits can't be withheld arbitrarily thanks to the deposit protection scheme.

"they can make life very unpleasant for tenants if so desired whether it's by removing items"

You reckon you can steal from your tenants?

"they can make life very unpleasant for tenants if so desired whether it's by disruptive 'maintenance'."

See above. They don't have to let you in.

Are you really a landlord or just someone who should have gone to bed a couple of hours ago?

What does your AST say? That is the only thing that matters because that’s the only legal document involved. What are the terms of the AST?

Ah, I see. Wintry has only joined us this evening and appears to be having fun being controversial on most threads... And welcome to the thread to you too, @PseuDenim!

However, @PseuDenim, you are incorrect (please read the thread!)... I'm going to put this in bold so everyone can see it: YOUR CONTRACT DOES NOT AND CANNOT OVERRIDE THE LAW. IT DOES NOT MATTER "WHAT YOUR AST SAYS."

And breathe!

Keep us updated @causeimunderyourspell

Wintry is being a knob on a few threads this evening. Seems to have a giant stick up her arsehole.

@Tippexy

It's not a question of stealing- it's using legitimate business practices to your advantage. I.e. a 'furnished' flat can suddenly become 'unfurnished' within an afternoon, or a house that includes a garden can suddenly include a shipping container instead. It's all in the details of the contract.