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To think some people take drugs because it is fun?

243 replies

crunchymint · 28/05/2018 12:14

There is the assumption that people take drugs because of mental health problems, or other problems. But plenty of people take drugs because it is fun. I am not advocating taking drugs. But sometimes it is as simple as that.

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rockshandy · 28/05/2018 14:54

Never having taken them, how do you know?

This keeps being asserted as fact but you don't know that so kindly, please stop.

rockshandy · 28/05/2018 14:56

no, it wasn't clear, and you are still doing it.

All I am doing is disagreeing. OK?

I am being patronised. I have had a history made up for me. I am not patronising you, and if you are reading that I am then that is coming from your end.

BananaToffo · 28/05/2018 14:56

You mean like your assertion that "they are not fun" in which you presumed to speak for every human being?

PatsyClineSilVousPlait · 28/05/2018 14:57

I took most drugs (apart from heroin or crack) in my 20s and enjoyed them regularly without addiction becoming a consideration.

Now 38 ecstasy/MDMA is the only one I miss and still go to the (very) odd club every year or 2 and have some. This year's expedition is in September, and thatll be plenty.

Ankorna · 28/05/2018 14:58

And honestly, if you drink to feel more confident and sociable, I would worry a bit.

That's just a self-esteem issue. I over analyse situations and things I say to people and how they talk to me/facial expressions. If I have a little drink it just eases me into it more as I'm not naturally very social. I wouldn't say I have a problem, I'm not drinking because I can't socialise without it, it's just on the rare night out it's usually a bigger group than I'm used to.

DistanceCall · 28/05/2018 14:59

I'm not sure I understand the point of the thread, to be honest.

So you can take drugs and not be an addict.

So? Is that supposed to make it OK? To reassure you that it's fine because you're not Patrick Melrose?

DistanceCall · 28/05/2018 15:00

That's just a self-esteem issue. I over analyse situations and things I say to people and how they talk to me/facial expressions. If I have a little drink it just eases me into it more as I'm not naturally very social.

Then you're using drink as a crutch, when you should actually work on your self-esteem and get some therapy. (And I say this as someone who has had therapy for a very long time, it's not meant to be an insult or anything like that - quite the contrary).

Tomorrowillbeachicken · 28/05/2018 15:04

Tbh drug taking is a little like Russian roulette as you have no idea what the mixes are or the strength of the drugs. Carry on if you wish but the next one might kill you.

Ankorna · 28/05/2018 15:04

I've had therapy in the past for an actual problem. This really isn't one.

I didn't realise not being very social/extroverted means you need therapy. I don't mean self-esteem as in "I hate myself", just I'm shy and worry people might not like me or might take me the wrong way. I'm more of an introvert and a drink loosens me up. You're reading far too much into it. I also only have a drink a couple of times a year, so no.

DistanceCall · 28/05/2018 15:05

I'm an introvert myself. I don't drink. I find therapy more useful.

Of course, it's entirely up to you.

Ankorna · 28/05/2018 15:08

You could have all the therapy in the world and still not be very confident. Hmm

I honestly find it hard to believe you've seriously suggested therapy because I enjoy a drink a couple of a times a year to help me unwind and talk more/have a dance/not be so reserved.

FourFriedChickensDryWhiteToast · 28/05/2018 15:10

" I am not patronising you, and if you are reading that I am then that is coming from your end."

well maybe you should take 5 minutes to read back your posts to yourself and then go off and have a quiet little think about it...:)

Namechangedname · 28/05/2018 15:11

It's the risk though, isn't it? You had fun taking drugs, great.

Other people have taken the same drug/s and it has had dire consequences.

The same with smoking. Everyone seems to have an uncle who smoked a hundred a day and lived until he was a 100.

Like I said, it's the luck of the draw because no one 100% really knows what they are taking.

rockshandy · 28/05/2018 15:15

Banana

You mean like your assertion that "they are not fun" in which you presumed to speak for every human being?

In my first post I used the phrases "IMO" and "my experience".

By the time we reached a post in which I said drugs are not fun, I am pretty confident that it was clear it was my opinion.

So now you have made up my history for me, and also made an unfounded claim that I am speaking for the entire world. Twice.

Why? What is the value in twisting my words and making up a history for me?

rockshandy · 28/05/2018 15:16

well maybe you should take 5 minutes to read back your posts to yourself and then go off and have a quiet little think about it...

You don't need to demonstrate patronising posts to me thanks, I can spot them, and I know mine weren't.

rockshandy · 28/05/2018 15:20

The experience of being on this thread...having words twisted, being told what I have and have not done by total strangers, and being accused of patronising others...is the true mark of denial. It is what people do when they have nothing to back themselves up. Except, of course, all those coked out nights when they thought they were being funny and witty and such a good laugh, when the reality is much different. Yes, experience trumps all else, and if they don't agree, their experience wasn't as valuable as ours.

Yep, drugs are fun. They make you smart, able to see the bigger picture, capable of a valid debate....oh wait.

DistanceCall · 28/05/2018 15:32

I honestly find it hard to believe you've seriously suggested therapy because I enjoy a drink a couple of a times a year to help me unwind and talk more/have a dance/not be so reserved.

There's enjoying a drink, and there's relying on drink to make you more social. Different things.

But as I said, not my problem. And yes, I see it as a problem.

DistanceCall · 28/05/2018 15:33

You could have all the therapy in the world and still not be very confident.

Not very good therapy, then.

Thegallofher · 28/05/2018 15:39

Of course they’re fun. They can give you the most amazing high and sense of contentment that’s why people take them. Of course the price is addiction and/or the sense that ‘real’ unadulterated life is not enough. Mental health issues can lead you into drugs or be a direct result of them. Alcohol for many people is the most destructive drug because it is so readily available, legal and socially acceptable.

EnthusiasmIsDisturbed · 28/05/2018 15:43

You could have all the therapy in the world and still not be very confident

That is true regardless how good the therapist is or the relationship is what someone gets from therapy differs and not everyone will engage for a number reasons

And many people just like the feeling drugs give them it may not be intense I prefer it to the feeling of alcohol but it will impact me different I don’t need it but I very much like it

Ankorna · 28/05/2018 16:56

There's enjoying a drink, and there's relying on drink to make you more social. Different things.

I don't rely on it. I can socialise without it, it's just easier with it. Pretty simple.

As for "not very good therapy" - are you suggesting that every single person who has sound mental health is 100% confident and loves themselves? I'm pretty sure they don't.

Ankorna · 28/05/2018 16:57

I mean cool if you think everyone you meet will like you and you don't care about anyone's opinion, but I don't think that's usual.

Lethaldrizzle · 28/05/2018 17:27

Aren't they now looking into using substances like ketamine and lsd (or whatever is in mushrooms) to treat depression? I like getting drunk with my friends cos it's fun and we laugh alot, not because I've got self esteem issues.

Bowlofbabelfish · 28/05/2018 17:30

Yeah, ketamine in a single dose has huge effects on treatment resistant depression in studies (do no do this at home etc etc.)

LSD is a trickier beast.

BananaToffo · 28/05/2018 20:26

For goodness sake, Rockshandy. How can you have managed to miss the implication of your own statements?

You said...Drugs are not fun. That's a societal construct.

In other words, all the people who have taken drugs and say they find them fun are actually deluded & have been brainwashed by society.

This is presumptuous and arrogant in the extreme because you have decided, for no good reason, that you understand other people's experiences better than they do.

Then, when you were challenged, you copped a strop and started whining about how everyone is making assumptions about YOU! OK...maybe you have a past as a coke fiend...that still doesn't make your original pronouncement less stupid.

Other adults told you that you were wrong at which point you should have acknowledged that. And your "Well, anyone who needs drugs to have fun has ishoos" is smug, patronising and quite ignorant, actually.

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