To think we should do away entirely with school holidays?

[SkaPunkPrincess]

Just musing and wondering why we don't just do away with them entirely?

Run schools like a regular workplace in that they operate 52 weeks of the year, Teachers and students to get 4 weeks allocated holiday allowance per year and parents can use this at their discretion. Staff would be able to be more flexible and they would have more time in the year to teach children at a more realistic pace?

Am I missing why this isn't a genius idea?

Who said children need to be doing the full curriculum the whole year?

No-one but why is it the jobs of schools to provide all aspects of a child's development? Where is the parental responsibility?

OP you are being entirely unreasonable. I love the holidays and so do my DC. They have time to just "be". No need to dash around and no need for structure.

How does a 4 year old know what a school holiday is if they don’t go to school?

Mine I 4 (I say 5 as he is a few weeks off) he has never had a break from nursery unless it’s a family holiday.

Are you accusing me of something here?

@PTW1234 more staff with what money? Who pays for all of this?
For the supplies when the teacher/TA decides they're off on holiday?
The extra resources needed (I swear some kids eat the fucking glue)!!
The extra meals that are done for free (reception,y1,y2) .

Umm I think there is a problem with the long summer holiday and any holiday that lasts over 2 weeks. I also hate the fact term lengths vary so widely. This year we have a massive long summer term. I would prefer a 5 semester system or something with regular breaks. We would all be less frazzled, tired and grumpy by the end of term.

No I'm not accusing you of anything. What would I be accusing you of?!

I'm just saying I would be horrified if my child becomes bemused with the school holidays.

My 4 year old understands school holidays because, he could be school age as far as you know (he's not, he's nursery but term time only funded) and enjoys the time off with me.

Well for a start off if school was open all year round, those who claim working tax credits for childcare wouldn’t need to claim nearly as much.

Why is it such an horrific notion that my son is used to being at school/childcare?

And for the record my son enjoys being with me too..

I do think you are being a bit goady

Pw1234 I'm not being goady....:
You used the words 'my son is bemused by the school holidays'

Sorry but your nearly 5 year old son.... that surprises me. Don't call me goady because I questioned your ridiculous statement. You sounded smug as anything with your original post. It didn't sound normal to me.... was just saying

Pw1234 to be bemused by school holidays is sad. Poor little lad.

Well it’s not normal to you because you don’t use full time childcare. And full time childcare is not indifferent or “unusual”.

Do you know the state actually contributes to a lot of the “poor” children who use full time childcare. It’s an absolute abomination the childcare/schooling in this country, they tax the poor and make them jump through hoops if they want to better themselves and get a bit back in help.

There is so much injustice and poverty in this country, there are lots of parents who dread the 6 week holidays it means:

Buying expensive uniform
Losing their Childrens free lunches (sometimes their only meal a day!)
Not having childcare so they cant go and clean the MNs houses

Honestly, a 52 “school” year would benefit so many children. I have a teaching family and I know one of the head teachers opens her school doors a few fines a week for revision and a free meal in the holidays.

Also my son has a rich and positive life.

Done feel sorry for him

Boredom breeds resilience and initiative
summer holidays are great for boredom

I genuinely feel sorry for kids who are in childcare full time
because they never have "down time"

@PTW1234 well I'm poor and tired and fucking love the school holidays. Hell I need them!!

@rebel great for you.

I hope you never get ill in the six week holidays, because all the parents, who are doctors, paramedics etc won’t be able to help you.

The need the summer off you see, their poor children won’t cope..

I always get sick in all the holidays. No time to be sick outside of them. DD is considerate enough to keep them for end of term too bless her.

I think a lot of teachers are ill either the start of half term holidays or first day of the longer holidays.
They would be going off sick, taking holidays during term time as there would be no half terms.
I shudder to think what the standard would be like.

Honestly, a 52 “school” year would benefit so many children.

Many more children would not benefit at all from it. Mostly it would benefit the parents.

@PTW1234 but I do feel sorry for him. To be bemused by holidays whether you are from a both parents/single parent fulltime working family or not is irrelevant. You seem so wound up and stressed and angry. 52 weeks of the year may suit you and your little chap but for the majority of the rest of the population and 99% of children, the holidays and break from school are vital. I guess it depends whether your approach in life if child centred or not.

Are they still doing Wednesdays off in France for elementary schoolers? I know they used to, and then they made them go five days a week, and now I think they are not going on the Wednesday again. I like that. I agree with people who say it's it would be too much for kids to go 52 weeks of the year. Especially for smaller children. Goodness, and I wouldn't want to be an older student cramming for exams the whole year.

Like I said, do not feel sorry for my child.

Would you be offended if I said I think your child is “poor” because they don’t have any good role models, since their mother doesn’t work or rely on childcare.

I don’t think that btw, I respect your personal circumstances, just hear yourself in reverse and how it could be deeply offensive.

My child will continue to have 52 hours schooling/wrap around childcare for as long as he is old enough to look after himself.

I repeat he is not poorly looked after, and I do whole heartedly think a lot of children, not just those of working parents, would completely benefit from a 52 school week. (Well once not 52 same as a private nursery opening hours)

I am tiered conflating hours with weeks but you know what I am saying!

@PTW1234 how do you know we don't work?

Well do you?

You have admitted you only take the funded hours in term term..

@ptw1234 you seem so aggressive. I said poor little lad and that I felt sorry for him, because as you said he was bemused by school holidays. I did not say poor little lad he has a working mum.
And you have no idea whether I work, part time or full time, use childcare or don't use childcare. It's completely irrelevant, my children look forward to and need and enjoy their school holidays because it's a break from school and that particular routine and all those people and friendships and relationships. As well as the opportunity to do different things and have down time.
I feel sad for a child that is bemused by this change. And you can't tell me not to because you think differently. No one said he was 'poorly' looked after. I think perhaps you care about this far more than you would like to think you do as your responses are not to what has actually been said.

Also are you showing your true colours and saying women shouldn’t work? Or have careers and children? The work downed stop on the 6 wwwk holidays you know..

And fiscally it shouldn’t