Aggressive woman-was I BU?

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Driving my DC to school today, and we get into the school car park. Was driving along behind two cars, a taxi at the front, then this woman's in front me me.
Taxi stops dead on a zebra crossing with no indication, car in front does the same. I wait a few moments then carefully drive around the two cars (one way system, so nothing coming other way)
Get my DC out of the car and this woman appears from the other car and gets out and starts being very confrontational and aggressive, telling me I should drive carefully (I do) we are all waiting you know, she wanted to get past the taxi too, but was waiting.
It was more the arm gestures and aggression on her face that shocked me.
My poor DC looked scared.

I told her I do drive carefully and that I was sorry to appease the situation. I was left shaking by her aggression!

Was I bu?

Also what would of happened if the taxi had actually stopped to let a small child cross the road and you hadn't seen this and run them down? You should of had patience and waited

Also, as far as I understand, it’s a two lane street with a one way system.
So the OP did NOT overtake. She used the second lane as she was totally entitled to do. If she had been in he second lane when the taxi stopped, was she supposed to also stop behind the other woman and wait???

I wouldn't have overtaken either. If the taxi had stopped, it was pretty obvious she was waiting patiently for the taxi to proceed after presumably letting children out. Not quite sure why you would overtake two cars when one is waiting in front of you. That been said, theres no excuse for her behavour. Maybe the school should be enforcing that no vehicles are to stop on the crossing anyway. Have a word about this mornings incident with them. The taxi should know better tbh

Are you serious? You overtook two cars on a zebra crossing?? You should have been ready to stop anyway, coming up to a zebra, not being surprised that the taxi 'suddenly stopped' (clearly you were too close as well)

By your own admission people stop there to let children out of the car. You can not see who is what is in front of the taxi.....
A rebuke from the other driver was the least of your worries.

15star the taxi couldn’t have done that as the taxi was ON the zebra crossing, not before it to let someone cross.
If a child had been crossing, the same wouod have happened if she had been coming (totally legally) on the second lane for a while. She would have stopped at the crossing.
The situation is very different than overtaking in a road that isn’t a one way system OR only has one lane.

How did you know the taxi was parked and hadn't just stopped to let someone or something across the road (lots of ducklings and such abot at the moment, coincidental if they use a zebra crossing but you never know). How long did you give the second car to move around the taxi? If you'd been sitting for a couple of minutes, or you saw the taxi doors open and kids get out, then fair enough, if you indicated to show what you were doing.

If two cars just stopped and you immediately swerved round them assuming there was nothing on the crossing, and without indicating, then YABU, I'm afraid.

I work in a school and see this all the time. I don't think you were in the wrong. It's not a public road zebra crossing, it's within a school grounds. People are too lazy to go and find a space and park up, they just stop closest to the door which is generally on the zebra crossing. They could stop 10 feet further up and be out of the way but no, that's too far for their lazy arse to walk. I always go around them, I want to go and park, there is no need for me to sit there and wait for them to faff about because they are bone idle. Obviously I make sure there are no children around or on the crossing but I can't be doing with other people's laziness.

Crappy diamgram attached

The principle of overtaking still applied no matter the number of lanes.
The taxi should not have stopped there but two wrong don't make a right.
What if a child had exited from the taxi on the offside?
How did the op not know a child or a wheelchair bound adult wasn't crossing in front of the taxi

Just realised my cars aren't quite to scale! They are probably twice as big really

Zaphodsotherhead-I certainly didn't immediacy swerve past them.

I waited, then crawled around at 7mpr (my car displays my speed on the dash in digits)

What if a child had exited from the taxi on the offside?

Well the OP could have just as well been in the second lane anyway, whether she was overtaking or not is irrelevant. Unless she was driving too fast she would easily have time to stop for any child that got out of the car.

Op. doesnt matter what you say you never ever ever ever overtake on a zebra crossing. Its vvvv dangerous. You could of killed someone today as you wouldnt have seen anyone behind the taxi. As gor the taxi parking on the zebra crosding again yhe taxi should never ever park on the zebra crossing but in the fact he was stopped i view you over taking as more dangerous. If a camera was on this zebra crossing you might be in trouble for dangerous driving. I had a friend who broke a leg in a similar situation when i was at school. That mum who ran him over i dont think ever drove again. It takes just one minute. Wait!

You were in the wrong, absolutely. The woman was probably angry with you because you overtook her while she was waiting at a zebra crossing because she couldn't see what was in front of the taxi, and neither could you. I would be furious with you too, potentially endangering children like that. Stop making excuses for yourself, what you did was dangerous, pure and simple, regardless of what other drivers were doing.

Your actions were dangerous. YABVU

She has the right of it, your actions were wrong & potentially dangerous. She may have spoken to you in an aggressive way but you driving was aggressive, you should have just waited.

Her aggressive reaction to you was because your actions were dangerous....in a school car park with small children around.

Her reaction is completely understandable. Yours, not so much.

I'm with you OP. If you had described it as having moved into the second lane before the crossing, reached the crossing, saw there was noone on it so kept going, then that is perfectly fine in the context of your diagram. Especially at 7mph.

I'm certainly not making excuses. I won't do it again, even if it's the done thing here I see daily. I asked if I was bu, point taken. I see her POV, even if I didn't like her delivery.

She was rude but you were in the wrong.
It sounds like you were being selfish and putting the fact you were in a hurry ahead of safety, which given that it is a zebra crossing in front of a school is ridiculous, before you factor in that you overtook not one but 2 cars.
Is it one way? Your diagram suggests otherwise.
Take this one on the chin, if you don’t drive selfishly, unsafely and inconsiderately, people are less likely to get angry with you

overnightangel-yes, it's one way in both lanes. I pulled into the second lane after waiting to see what the cars in front were doing. No indication from them or movement, so I assumed they were parking on the school entrance (as they do here) I checked my mirrors and slowly crawled around them. Checked the crossing and went over it.
I will avoid this part of the grounds from now on. This was on a quiet period, it's mental at normal school time!

So this is a double laned, 1 way system in school grounds?

Taxi shouldn't have stopped on the crossing
Woman has no business shouting at you
You clearly say you looked and saw NO approaching pedestrians
If you had been in lane 2 you could've passed taxi and woman without agro
Driving around a stupidly parked taxi at 7mph isn't overtaking
You were not 'over taking' the stopped taxi or waiting woman
You were passing the taxi on a double laned, 1 way road
Highway Code doesn't apply to private land
Posting driving related questions on this site will upset you as everyone is a perfect driver bar you
YANBU

I think posters are being a bit harsh about the "overtaking on a zebra crossing". If a car were parked over a zebra crossing in one of two lanes on a one way street, then you would have no choice but to pass the parked car in the other lane. Obviously, one should take care, driving cautiously in case someone stepped out round the parked car to use the crossing, but if you are going slowly enough then there is time to stop.

@DadDadDad

But also the OP was not on a public highway which man people are missing the point on.

She was wrong. To all the people saying that you don't over take on a zebra crossing - the cars in front had stopped. How long were you supposed to wait for? What if they were waiting a half an hour for someone? Of course you can't bloody wait forever. I would have done the same, slowly, which you did.