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To wish DP could be a bit more supportive of my birth choices?

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berryboots · 23/05/2018 20:15

I'm 7 months pregnant with DP and I's first child. He's generally been pretty supportive throughout the whole thing, but now that I've slightly started preparing for how I'd like to give birth, I am being met with what feels like a total lack of support.

First of all and most importantly (to me), I want to do it without pain relief. No epidural, no gas and air. He'a always known this was very important to me and that when giving birth I want to be in the mindset that pain relief is not an option. I'm guessing this sounds pretty naive to most of you who've given birth naturally, but this has always been an important factor for me and I hate the thought of feeling numb.

DP keeps saying that I'll never make it through, that I've not had an easy time in this pregnancy to begin with (low iron levels resulting in me fainting quite often + all the usual stuff that comes with pregnancy) and that I can't handle the pain. Not even a tiny bit of encouragement; it's like he's already decided that I am going to fail what I am trying to prepare myself for, and was hoping for his support.

I was hoping to labour in a birthing pool if the pain got intense. He laughs at the idea, says it's not gonna help anything and says he's not gonna sit there and listen to me when I complain about the water being too hot/cold/whatever.

I was hoping to give birth in this nice, nearby maternity ward where the midwives would be there to support me through a natural birth without pain relief. He insists we go to the hospital as we'd be in the correct hands rights to begin with in case things go wrong.

I am just so frustrated. It feels like everything I mention about the way I want to deliver is being mocked and laughed at. It's not just him though, it's my own parents as well. They're all lovely in every other way and couldn't do enough for me, but they make me feel like an absolute idiot when I talk about how I want to give birth. Am I just being totally U and should wisen up a bit or am I right in expecting a bit of support?

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YorkieDorkie · 24/05/2018 08:27

YAB a bit U. I think he's just tying to protect you but seems to be doing it in a rather crappy way. He does need to support your choices in making the right decisions AT THE TIME.

Don't close off your mind to pain relief. Pain is a bitch and can stop you listening to your midwives. Gas and air will NOT make you numb. I was begging for the stuff and to my disappointment I could still feel eye watering pain Grin.

And finally, I have given birth twice. Once with every pain relief method under the sun and an EMCS, the other with nothing. It makes no difference to the outcome or how everyone will congratulate you. Please don't be the one who posts on social media "DC born at x time with no pain relief." No one gives a shit.Wink

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QueenOfMyWorld · 24/05/2018 08:29

Don't rule out pain relief completely.I wanted a Waterbirth but ended up having an epidural.Neither of you can know what type of birth you'll end up with so just both try to keep an open mind Flowers

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Lalliella · 24/05/2018 08:46

YABU. It’s not a competition as to who’s the hardest and who has the least pain relief. It’s something to go through where the end target is a healthy mum and a healthy baby. If you need intervention to get to that target then what does it matter? If you refuse it and end up with PTSD it’s not going to help anyone.

Imo NCT and other organisations brainwash pregnant women into thinking everything should be natural and you’ve failed if you give into intervention. Nonsense. Take advantage of every medical innovation you need, that’s why they were invented.

Scaremongers say - don’t be induced. Well I was induced with DC1 and it was great, it sped the whole thing up. Scaremongers say - don’t be hooked up to a monitor. Wtaf? The monitor is brilliant, it tells you when contractions are coming so you can hoik up the Tens machine. Oh and it monitors the baby’s heartbeat. How can that be a bad thing? Can’t speak for epidurals as everything was too fast for me to have one, but gas and air was brilliant.

(Oh and incidentally don’t get me started on the homebirth brigade. I had a textbook delivery with DC2 and then the placenta wouldn’t come away and I started to haemorrhage. Within seconds the room was full of medical staff and I was sorted out. At home I would have at least needed a blood transfusion and quite likely would have nearly died.)

OP I think it is you who needs to do the research, not your DP. He just wants to look after you and baby, give him a chance.

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CaledonianQueen · 24/05/2018 09:07

Another here who with experience has realised that you definitely get the birth you get, often whatever is in the birth plan goes out of the window when you are actually in labour.

If this is your first pregnancy/ deliver then you have no idea how you will react to being in enormous amounts of pain. In fact, even if this is your second/ third or fourth pregnancy each labour can be completely different. I have a friend who had her first baby at home, in a birthing pool with only gas and air (she delivered a dainty little 6lb baby girl). Her second baby was delivered en route to hospital after she screamed the house down (during home birth) and demanded an epidural and a transfer to hospital (her baby boy was 10lb though, which considering how tiny she is explains a lot).

My first labour was consultant led so I was wired to the bed(moon) and had a blissful epidural which helped me rest in between contractions until it was time to push. Second baby, (also consultant led) I was brought in for induction (which is a consideration you may need to plan for as an oxytocin induced labour is intense) first pessary didn’t work (well the midwife said it didn’t) and I ended up labouring overnight in induction ward with only paracetamol. By the time the next shift started I was proclaiming that they needed to take the baby out as I couldn’t take anymore, new midwife examined me and found me 9cm dilated! I begged for an epidural but there was no time, I barely had time to use the gas and air before my youngest was born!

I only share these stories as both myself and my friend had very detailed birth plans, friend was determined that she not have any pain killers (which is what she got just not in the relaxed home environment she had hoped for), I was determined to not need pain relief with my first but gladly accepted the epidural when faced with hours of intense oxytocin drip triggered contractions. With my second birth plan, I agreed that I would make a decision during labour(with guidance) as to what pain relief I would use. I realised that there is no such thing as a perfect labour and delivery and that holding myself to what I had written pre labour was not going to help in the long run. The most important thing was that labour led to the safe delivery of our babies.

What I did specify was that I wanted my DH to tell me the gender of our baby, that I wanted him to cut the cord and that if my baby needed to go anywhere for treatment, then my DH was to not leave our babies side. This was really important to me and DS needed wheeling out to get his tubes cleared (DH hated leaving me but wasn’t gone long and I had made him promise to go with our baby).

By all means write your ideal birth and how you would prefer labour to progress, however, for your own benefit, consider adding a paragraph to the bottom of your birth plan saying

‘I realise that I do not know how my body will react whilst in labour, or how labour will progress once it starts, therefore, whilst I would ideally prefer to have no pain relief, I am open to any changes/ treatment that is required in order to ensure our baby is delivered safely. ‘

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Littlemissdaredevil · 24/05/2018 09:12

I would say keep you options open. I wanted to labour in the pool and have minimal pain relief

What actually happen was my waters broke and I ended up being induced with back to back baby. I had a fast incredibly excruiting painful labour where I was denied any pain relief (as they wouldn’t believe I was in labour so wouldn’t admit to to the MLU or labour ward so I couldn’t use a pool). In the end I ended up in theatre with forceps and a spinal. I tell people the spinal was the best bit (apart from having my DD)

I think what I am trying to say is keep your options open as you never know how your labour will go

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juneau · 24/05/2018 09:22

The calmer you are and the more mobile the better.

Yes, I agree. Being calm and relaxed (and as long as baby is in the right position with no complications), will not only speed things up, but it will make things physically for you. However, I found it really hard to just relax and let my body do it's job the first time. I was was mentally fighting it, because I suppose I was frightened and you don't know what to expect the first time, because it's all new. So practice relaxing and really think about your breathing. The first time I was shallow breathing and panicking a bit and it slowed things down. If you get the breathing right (deep breaths through contractions), then it really does make a difference. The second time it came naturally, I knew what I was doing, but I wish I'd been better prepared the first time around. One class with 20 of us all there wasn't enough. I think practicing deep breathing and meditation would've been better. And yes, keep walking around as long as you can. With DS1 I was strapped to a bed, which was painful and stressful. With DS2 I was walking until I lay down to give birth - 100 times better.

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Cornishclio · 24/05/2018 09:54

It's your body so ultimately your call but I would suggest being open to being a bit more flexible. Your DP and parents are wrong to ridicule your wishes but presumably they are worried for you and probably know that all births are different and a birth plan is just that, a plan which may have to change if your birth is not straightforward.

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IJustLostTheGame · 24/05/2018 10:08

Yanbu to want what you want but yabu to insist that's how it's going to go down.
It may well happen the way you want it, but keep an open mind to anything and everything else.
If it's what keeps you call and happy then continue to plan for it and when everything kicks off go with the flow.
I planned a homebirth with gas and air and a birthpool. I ended up in hospital. But I did remain in control and had the gas and air. I loved that stuff and ended up going through four canisters of the stuff Blush.
If I'd known all along what was to happen if have had a nervous breakdown, but as it was I dealt with what was happening when it did.
It's your birth and your body and plan for what feels right. But please don't set yourself crazy targets as the end goal is to get a healthy baby and don't pressure yourself into going through more pain than you have to. There's no shame in pain relief. It's there to make your labouring easier. Don't be afraid to change your mind as until you're in labour you can't truly realise what you can stand/want until it's started.

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MarthasGinYard · 24/05/2018 10:09

Just run away and squat under a Bush

Problem solved

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ConciseandNice · 24/05/2018 10:12

It’s your experience. Your labour and birth. Not his. He has a right to an opinion, but no say. In my opinion men need to, in the main, butt out. But, they’re used to having their opinions taken seriously. As women we’re used to having ours take a back seat. Not with labour and birth. Hell no. Even if he is just caring about you, he’s doing it in a deeply unpleasant way. I’d tell him that if he doesn’t start supporting you he won’t even be at the birth.

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LemonScentedStickyBat · 24/05/2018 10:19

A lot of people here assuming the OP doesn’t want pain relief out of some sort of principle. That isn’t what she said. She said she doesn’t want to feel numb. She didn’t say she wouldn’t accept medical intervention, so the stories of babies and women that died in the past are irrelevant. She’s not brainwashed!

I didn’t want to be numb and immobile and I was lucky to get just what I wanted. In both of my labours I began to approach a point where I knew I would need more help if it went on much longer - I never reached that time as the babies were born but if i’d needed help, i’d have taken it - do people really believe that women make themselves suffer unnecessarily for the sake of some ‘medal’?

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Laserbird16 · 24/05/2018 10:27

Birth plans aside YANBU and your DP needs to understand his ridiculing your choices is not ok. It is fine for him to voice his concerns in a mature way so you can chat about it, but he isn't. He isn't saying berry I'm worried you'll be in pain, he's undermining your confidence in your ability to cope. You don't need that. If he has a big event on do you tell him how shit he is going to be? Talk to him about you need his support- which is like the one thing a birth partner needs to do - and if he can't do that he needs to keep his immature undermine to himself. All the best and personally my birth was very positive and I hope for the same for you!

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kaytee87 · 24/05/2018 10:30

He sounds like an arse with his mocking but you've absolutely no idea what your birth is going to be like so don't over plan it and right off pain relief or you risk feeling like a failure if it all goes wrong.

I too wanted a lovely natural water birth and I'd just breathe through the pain.

In reality I ended up with an excruciating 24 hour back to back labour, I was in so much pain I could hardly breathe in between throwing up with every contraction. It ended up with a tear, drip, epidural, episiotomy and rotational forceps and being in recovery for hours on oxygen unable to hold or feed my baby or able to move until the following day.

I don't tell you this to scare you but I think it does women no good to pretend that most first timers can breathe their way through a beautiful birth. Some can and maybe you'll be lucky, I hope you are, but keep an open mimd.

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Rockandrollwithit · 24/05/2018 10:30

I would consider the hospital. My DS2 was born critically ill with a condition almost impossible to detect antenatally, as far as I was concerned I was having a healthy baby. He needed immediate paediatric care and intubation, which he received within minutes. I dread to think what may have happened if I wasn't at hospital.

As far as pain relief goes, that's completely your choice.

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Barbie222 · 24/05/2018 10:34

I'd respectfully say that the idea of choice in childbirth is a matter of luck rather than your right.

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saoirse31 · 24/05/2018 10:52

Nothing wrong with choosing no pain relief in advance, but be clear to yourself that you'll take it if you change your mind and won't persevere in pain to avoid ur partners told u sos.

I think u need to discuss things more tbh.

I gave birth with partner not there due to circs. - quick birth. That was fine. I also had no pain relief due to circs - quick birth.. Too late for epidural I wanted! That was fine but was a lot of pain. So don't feel bad about yourself if u choose relief. I think our ancestors would frankly laugh at rejecting pain reliefGrin

personally, and it is only personal opinion ,, so ignore, but I'm with ur partner on hospital..

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siwel123 · 24/05/2018 10:55

I think he is worried.
Having to see my partner the person I love go through the most painful experience ever for her was traumatic.

You've to realise as well that he is maybe not as well educated on the birthing phase as you so sees no pain relief and water births as wierd and abnormal so may be worried about that.

Overall I think he's just generally worried about you and maybe have a proper sit down and discuss with him about it.

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TammySwansonTwo · 24/05/2018 11:14

Oh OP, I mean this is the kindest possible sense, but please do not allow yourself to fall into the Mum guilt trap before your baby even arrives! I have many friends who’ve been into hypnobirthing and for some of them it’s been a wonderful experience. Others have suffered terribly with PND and birth trauma, not because anything explicitly traumatic happened but because they felt they had failed by needing pain relief and interventions. I had an emcs before a single contraction because one of my babies was almost gone - it’s not what I pictured but they’re both here now. Take it as it comes, what happens during that one day (hopefully!) is just a tiny fraction of having a child and being a mother, and having some form of pain relief is such a minuscule proportion of it overall.

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Audree · 24/05/2018 11:46

LemonScentedStickyBat

A lot of people here assuming the OP doesn’t want pain relief out of some sort of principle. That isn’t what she said. She said she doesn’t want to feel numb. She didn’t say she wouldn’t accept medical intervention, so the stories of babies and women that died in the past are irrelevant. She’s not brainwashed!

Yes to the above!
OP, you seem like a sensible woman, ready to change plans if needed. Don’t listen to the negativity. Stories about dead babies and women are simply mean, as well as people mentioning medals, or that “nothing matters except a healthy baby”.
The fact is that birth professionals are trained to react in unexpected emergencies - whether natural, medicated or homebirth, you won’t be alone in making your decisions.

Keep being positive. I wish you the birth experience you want for yourself. Natural birth is possible and well worth itSmile

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user1494409994 · 24/05/2018 11:50

Makes plans for the birth you want but also be open minded to the birth it might be. I did hypnobirthing and was going to be drug free but baby1 had other ideas and was lying the wrong way for a quick and easy delivery. Ended up with an epidural. For baby2, she was too quick and the bath wasn't even started when she was coming so I bit the pillow instead. I really didn't fancy gas and air and there wasnt time for anything else.

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Audree · 24/05/2018 11:51

You don’t need your dh mocking your birth plan, OP, you can read this thread instead.
Plenty of mockery for your dh to take notes.

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Annab1983 · 24/05/2018 11:56

Your partner could be more supportive and encouraging but please try to consider things may not go to your plan.. I suffered horrendous PNd due to my first traumatic birth with every intervention going (including forceps which didn’t work) and then a crash section as they couldn’t find a heartbeat.. I was very grateful I had the epidural a couple of hours prior (36 hours in total I was exhausted!) otherwise I would not have seen my baby born as they would have knocked me out.. my birth plan was identical to yours and my insistence that this was the ideal and what I wanted with no thought given to any deviation was a major contributor to PNd.. birth goes how it goes please at least consider it may not go exactly like that.. wishing you the birth you want but it’s better for your mental health to not place such importance on the exact details of birth, you have no control over it if there are complications and motherhood is what comes after really, you grew your baby which is amazing! how much pain you endure and how it comes out is only one aspect of it!

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TheFatkinsDiet · 24/05/2018 12:04

Best made plans etc etc, but whether or not you get your planned birth the way you want it really isn’t the point. He should be supportive of your choices. If you were very high risk and insisting on having a home birth when you lived hours away from the nearest hospital then I’d say he might have a point, but a MLU when you’re a low risk patient is surely what most people would choose. I think it was the default when I had dc1 actually; if you’re low risk you go to the MLU unless you’ve specifically asked to go to the ward for pain relief options etc. Fwiw, when we looked round our MLU they told me that they’d only ever had two patients transfer to the ward for pain relief since they opened. They had patients transferred for loads of other reasons but only two purely for pain relief.

I really hate the “you’ll never make it” type comments. A man said that to the other dads at our nct class and he got a lot of Hmm looks from them. Because it just isn’t ok to talk about the mother of your child’s birth choices that way. In the end, his gf had her baby with zero pain relief about 20 minutes after arriving at hospital, so he was laughing the other side of his stupid face.

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TheFatkinsDiet · 24/05/2018 12:08

Fwiw, my birth plan was like yours with dc1, except that I was open minded about pain relief. In the end I had quite a complicated birth which I won’t bore you with, but the total opposite of what I’d planned . As long as you appreciate that you might not get what you want though, it’s completely fine to plan a pain relief free birth. And your dp should be more supportive.

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Guna100 · 24/05/2018 14:05

YANBU, you absolutely have to prepare yourself for giving birth and need support around you. I would say though to consider that sometimes things happen, so be prepared to roll with the flow a little and focus on a safe delivery for you both.

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