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Is this racism

185 replies

prettyprettyflowers · 21/05/2018 12:52

Very senior manager was told off by HR for doing a mocking Chinese accent when talking about a trip to a Chinese restaurant in a senior meeting.
She then recounts story with same accent in different meeting as well as how funny it was HR told her off for it.

It Bothers me. But am I the only one?

OP posts:
MissEliza · 21/05/2018 16:09

Juells please read my post. I specifically said I find it rude not offensive unless people start with the negative comments.

Birdsgottafly · 21/05/2018 16:10

FFS, even the residents of Craggy Island recognised Racism (even if they couldn't devote themselves full time to the old Racism).

Juells · 21/05/2018 16:20

@MissEliza

Juells please read my post. I specifically said I find it rude not offensive unless people start with the negative comments.

Yes, I saw that and it was a very good point. I was just meandering on about why (non-rude) people like imitating an accent sometimes.

FourFriedChickensDryWhiteToast · 21/05/2018 16:21

" If your a leftie snowflake....... Yes. "

I bet "your" a white English person then.

I hate to be a grammar pedant but it does seem to be the least educated folk who come out with this shite.

bridgetoc · 21/05/2018 16:31

*I bet "your" a white English person then.

I hate to be a grammar pedant but it does seem to be the least educated folk who come out with this shite.*

It really does seem to be the least educated people that don't read the thread through and come barging in and put their foot in it.

As I said, I'm mixed race.

CountTessa · 21/05/2018 16:33

She needs to be pulled up on it again. Report it again to HR.

mostdays · 21/05/2018 16:37

I think it's offensive. I'd report her again.

Quickerthanavicar · 21/05/2018 16:37

It's racist. HR need to have a bigger word.

Gilead · 21/05/2018 16:39

If your a leftie snowflake....... (sic)
Grow up, find a real argument. It's racist, that's all there is to it.

A4710Rider · 21/05/2018 16:42

What background is the protaganist from?

Andylion · 21/05/2018 16:43

Clearly racist.

FourFriedChickensDryWhiteToast · 21/05/2018 16:44

well sorry Bridgetoc but 'being mixed race' doesn't give you carte blanche to come out with that kind of drivel. 'Snowflakes' is it? gosh how original and new...

Chocolatecoffeeaddict · 21/05/2018 16:47

Yes it's racist. It can't be compared to imitating other regional accents as it is not the race you are poking fun at, and presumably there's people with that accent that are the same race as you.
Chinese people are a separate race from me ( I'm white)so it would be racist if I were to do it.

drspouse · 21/05/2018 16:54

It depends. Were there any Chinese people present at the meeting who felt uncomfortable?
Irrelevant. If she said "I think black people are stupid, they should all go home" in a room full of white people, that's still racist.

BertrandRussell · 21/05/2018 16:56

"As I said, I'm mixed race"

Why does this make a difference?

bridgetoc · 21/05/2018 16:57

No, it's not original or new Chicken, but it is the perfect way to describe the likes of you, and many others on Mumsnet. Snowflakes aplenty on here.Grin

derxa · 21/05/2018 16:58

It can't be compared to imitating other regional accents as it is not the race you are poking fun at, and presumably there's people with that accent that are the same race as you. Well that's OK then. You were not a young Scot starting her first job in London having their accent imitated right left and centre then I take it. All these accent imitators are
rude and nasty. You can give it a name like 'racist' or 'banter' but it's still nasty.

FourFriedChickensDryWhiteToast · 21/05/2018 16:58

" but it is the perfect way to describe the likes of you "

excuse me? do you know me at all? no.
I just think that doing 'funny accents' is racist, in my own experience of having an Irish parent.

the only reason I am not saying what I really think of you is that I don't want to get banned...:)

FourFriedChickensDryWhiteToast · 21/05/2018 17:01

anyway , people who talk about 'snowflakes' as though they are saying something witty or something, are usually a bit lacking in the brains department. Just saying.

drspouse · 21/05/2018 17:05

derxa so that would be xenophobic if perpetrated by someone of the same race, no?
Still horrible, just a different name.

JamieVardysHavingAParty · 21/05/2018 17:11

Imitating other people's accents is rude, disrespectful and hostile behaviour at the very least, and in various types of context, it may also constitute racism.

I really don't care what remarks anyone has to make about particles of snow; believe me, it's merely more evidence that anyone trying to excuse this type of behaviour has little of value to contribute to adult conversation.

bridgetoc · 21/05/2018 17:12

No Chicken, I don't think it's witty, not in the slightest, but as I said, it perfectly describes a certain type of person who goes through life looking to take offence at anything and everything.

My mother was Irish, and she loved a good Irish joke, as long as it was a joke, and it was funny. She wasn't a snowflake though, and she could give it back.

BertrandRussell · 21/05/2018 17:16

"My mother was Irish, and she loved a good Irish joke,"

And should Chinese people want to imitate other Chinese people's accents that's up to them.

Chocolatecoffeeaddict · 21/05/2018 17:17

derxa, not sure why you've quoted my comment. It's not right what you went through at all, but it's not racism.

derxa · 21/05/2018 17:22

derxa, not sure why you've quoted my comment. It's not right what you went through at all, but it's not racism. I didn't mean to offend.
www.theguardian.com/world/2017/may/31/to-counter-racism-you-must-know-what-it-is-start-with-the-definition-in-uk-law
A critique of racism should surely start with a definition of what we think racism is. I for one begin with the legal definition, starting with the 1965 Race Relations Act, which refers to less favourable treatment on grounds of colour, race, or ethnic or national origins
says Linda Bellos. I would consider my national origin as Scottish.

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