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AIBU to want to anonymously report someone who has a cash only job and not pay tax?

277 replies

KikiLondon1 · 12/05/2018 18:49

I have a friend (not close) who has a cash in hand job and doesn't declare the income. It really irks me because I work hard and hate seeing my payslip and all the tax etc that gets deducted.
They get benefits on top of this also (which if she declared her income she wouldn't be entitled to).
I guess I've always been live and let live so would be very out of character for me to report her but on the other hand - I think it's just so unfair.
My oh thinks she'll get caught eventually and just leave it.
It's stealing though. Thoughts?

OP posts:
Luisa27 · 12/05/2018 20:06

Oh ffs get a life....

Faultymain5 · 12/05/2018 20:07

@lettheriverrun Please site your source for "billions". I mean if it's not reported how is it even calculated? Sounds like a massive guesstimate to me.

ChevalierTialys · 12/05/2018 20:10

Personally I think you should continue to live and let live. Leave her the hell alone.

GirlsBlouse17 · 12/05/2018 20:14

I think £80 a day works out roughly £26000 pa gross assuming she works 5 days per week and with benefits on top, she will have a reasonable income. Obviously that is making certain assumptions. She would be liable to tax and national insurance on this income and unlikely to be entitled to benefits. If she is breaking the law, report her.

bottleblue · 12/05/2018 20:16

I wouldn't report her - she could end up in prison and it would be shit.

Anyone who thinks the money from this kind of fraud would go to schools/hospitals/services is kidding themselves right royally. Austerity isn't necessary - it's a CHOICE, made by the tory government. For one example - They're still pushing 'Right to Buy' - up to £110,000 subsidies on council houses. A massive proportion of the Housing benefit bill now goes into private pockets to pay for families to live in the homes that used to belong to US. It's a systematic dismantling of the state in favour of private profit. That's what our taxes go to. Yep, course, fraud's wrong, but the fallout from reporting it is going to be way worse - it's a false logic to say if you disagree with theft you should report. If you disagree with what she's doing, tell her that and ask her not to talk to you about it any more.

ALittleAubergine · 12/05/2018 20:20

Not worth it,imo.

Awwlookatmybabyspider · 12/05/2018 20:23

She's killing kittens or drowning puppies is she.
I'd you do report she could go to jail leaving her children, if she has them without a mother. Would that make your life fulfilled

Awwlookatmybabyspider · 12/05/2018 20:24

*Not killing kittens, obviousHmm

ThePinkOcelot · 12/05/2018 20:27

She’s the tip of the iceberg! Maybe if benefits weren’t being paid out to people who shouldn’t be getting them, people who actually do them wouldn’t be sanctioned for nothing!

Report her. £80 per day in her hand isn’t bad going!

ThreeJoeys · 12/05/2018 20:27

Please do it. I'm always amazed how many people suggest not 'grassing'. It does not matter how much you earn vs how much they earn. This is unfair to everyone else who works and pays tax and it is stealing. I'd report it without another thought, it's the RIGHT thing to do.

ThreeJoeys · 12/05/2018 20:28

Awwlookatmybabyspider Go to jail? Oh please, so fucking dramatic. She'll at most get fined to repay what she should have paid and a stern warning.

Awwlookatmybabyspider · 12/05/2018 20:34

They can put you in jail for it

bottleblue · 12/05/2018 20:35

you can get 3 months for knowingly making a false claim. Same crime over years will be more than one offence - max 6 months with fine on top.

LetTheRiverRun · 12/05/2018 20:36

www.jobcentreguide.org/claiming-benefits/30/reporting-benefit-fraud @Faultymain5 most of it won't be traceable either so your right it it is a guestamate based on fraud the dwp are aware of and is probably an awful lot higher.

Thebluedog · 12/05/2018 20:38

It’s fraud and it’s stealing. I’m always amazed at the amount of people who would rather people committed benefit fraud and tax avoidance rather than ‘be a grass’

LetTheRiverRun · 12/05/2018 20:39

also the dwp report linked in this article www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/election-2017-39980793 amongst countless other reports year on year

Domino20 · 12/05/2018 20:41

OP. How many times did you write to the tax office about Google/Starbucks etc?
If the answer is none then you should probably adopt the same position regarding this woman.

sleep5 · 12/05/2018 20:42

It's up to you really. She may get caught eventually regardless.

The newspapers love reporting on this sort of thing. What they should be reporting is the huge tax avoidance by large companies (including the newspapers) operating in the UK which is costing many many times more than what minor tax avoidance is costing. Of course the politicians always say they'll do something but they're so far in the pockets of these companies that nothing ever changes.

WatchoutDSisdriving · 12/05/2018 20:43

OP just report it.

It always amazes me on these threads how people say not to grass. Anyone with morals knows cheating and stealing is not acceptable.

Appleofmypie · 12/05/2018 20:44

Do it. My kids dad did this to get out of paying maintenance. Obviously I reported him.

GirlsBlouse17 · 12/05/2018 20:45

If you don't want to risk going to jail, don't do the crime

JockTamsonsBairns · 12/05/2018 20:45

Maybe if benefits weren’t being paid out to people who shouldn’t be getting them, people who actually do them wouldn’t be sanctioned for nothing!

Are you being serious? Do you even know how the treasury works?

WatchoutDSisdriving · 12/05/2018 20:48

If you don't want to risk going to jail, don't do the crime

Exactly.

Evangelinee · 12/05/2018 20:49

What benefits is she claiming?

LaurieMarlow · 12/05/2018 20:51

If the OP knows for sure that she's not declaring it then yes I would report. I expect it would be hard to get to that level of certainty though.

It's clearly wrong. And if everyone did this/was able to do this then the state would be royally fucked. Decent people pay their taxes, it really is that simple.

Big corporations using legal loopholes to avoid paying tax is a huge issue, but one totally separate to this. It doesn't make individual tax avoidance less reprehensible.

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