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Sex Offender in school

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LIVIA999 · 10/05/2018 18:30

I have found out that a parent at School is a Sex Offender. He was convicted and is on the US sex offenders site so all the information is there to see including his personal details and the conviction stating that he was found guilty of sexual assault of a child. It doesn't say whether the child was male or female or any details only that it was a child and he was guilty.

This was back in the early 2000's. The US system, to my knowledge, means that once you are on the website you don't come off. It shows that he is out of state and obviously since that conviction he has moved to UK, married and had some children.

I know that anyone could be a sex offender and that you wouldn't know but now I know I can't stop thinking about the information. I was at an assembly last week and he was sat with another child on his lap. I'm not saying he is going to abuse them but they do say that often abusers are people you know and this family are obviously friends with him.

Also he has his own children-I honestly was under the impression that once you were convicted of a sexual crime against children that you wouldn't be allowed to spend time around children. Your own or others especially unsupervised. Am I wrong in this information?

I know that when my friend found the information she sent it into the school and obviously I am not expecting there to be an announcement or anything I genuinely just wanted to know what are the laws regarding sex offenders being around children.

Is there a time limit where they can be deemed as not being a threat anymore?

OP posts:

icelollycraving · 10/05/2018 18:56

I have no idea on the facts. Why were you searching on a US site for info?

Metoodear · 10/05/2018 18:57

Their is no time limit someone who finds hold sexually attractive always will

Their will be laws they would no that

However the crime was not committed in the UK so dbs only look from the moment you arrived here

I know when I adopted they make you gets equivalent dbs from every country you lived in however I have to say it’s either the mothers knows and doesn’t care that happens more than you think or has no clue

Unless he attempts to have a child over at his house or go on a school trip I would talk to the family worker of safe guarding person at your school

Barbie222 · 10/05/2018 18:58

You have alerted the school, I'd take no further action unless you see something new that concerns you.

MildredSparkles · 10/05/2018 18:59

How do you know it’s him and not someone with the same name?

Iamagreyhoundhearmeroar · 10/05/2018 18:59

Has some incident drawn him to your attention, op? . Why would you randomly check a man you barely know against the US sex offenders register?

DearMrDilkington · 10/05/2018 19:00

I imagine the school will ban him from the school grounds and inform social services now they're aware.

Well, I hope so anyway.

Iamagreyhoundhearmeroar · 10/05/2018 19:08

Not on op's say so, they won't

BluePony · 10/05/2018 19:10

Why did you look it up?

Pecano · 10/05/2018 19:16

You don’t know for sure that he has unsupervised contact with any child, including his own. A school assembly is very public so definitely not unsupervised. ady involved and there’s a plan in place.
Maybe SS are already involved and there’s a plan in place.
If his children go to that school it’s likely the head at least already knows.

Would it not make a difference the age of the child too? In the US he could have had a relationship with a 17 year old whose parents pressed charges - how old would he have been when it happened?

Storm4star · 10/05/2018 19:16

Yeah this is a bit puzzling! I don’t understand why anyone was even looking.

i don’t know how the US registration works but in the UK, if you wanted to move countries while on the SOR you would need permission from police, which wouldn’t usually be granted, but say it was..they would inform the police force where the person is moving too.

The school has been informed so they will investigate.

I sincerely hope OP that you and your friend are not planning on spreading this information around. You don’t know the situation, I’m not sure that you even know you have the right man. So please don’t.

MVLipwig · 10/05/2018 19:57

Just out of curiosity how old is this bloke? If he’s early 30s could this be a statutory rape offence? Still a sex offence legally but in no way dangerous to actual children?
Not suggesting it definitely is, and not trying to excuse behaviour before I’m jumped on

lljkk · 10/05/2018 20:00

The stat. rape is a good one. 16 is jailbait in most USA.

Roomba · 10/05/2018 20:00

could this be a statutory rape offence? Still a sex offence legally but in no way dangerous to actual children?

SkintAsASkintThing · 10/05/2018 20:01

I imagine it depends on the crime.

Sexual activity with a child could well be an 18 year old having sex with a 14 or 15 year old - whuch is grubby but the authorities would view that very differently to a man who had targeted young children.

Loandbeholdagain · 10/05/2018 20:07

I would ask to speak to the safeguarding officer at the school. It’s sufficently worrying. Don’t assume everyone is perfectly doing their job. I’ve been the safeguarding lead in a school and even social services get this stuff wrong all the time. Don’t assume someone else is handling it.

MumofBoysx2 · 10/05/2018 20:10

I have to say, if I heard a rumour about someone like that I would look them up as well, that's what the register is for! It's important to know the facts about people who are likely to be near your children! I personally don't think the school should allow him on site but it may be the law is on his side. I certainly wouldn't be happy about him being around my kids, even if there was supervision. Maybe if enough parents send letters to the head you can get him banned.

LilQueenie · 10/05/2018 20:16

how old would he have been at the time? I'm not saying its ok but you can be put on the register even if its a case of say 15 year old and 16 year old where the line are slightly blurred.Or in the case of a friends friend the girl lied. That's why Im curious as to how old he was.

Also how did you come across this info?

bookmum08 · 10/05/2018 20:19

As other have said this could be a 'statutory rape' thing. He could of been 18 and 1month - she 17 and 11 months. This would be illegal in parts of America. How old would he have been in 2000? That is almost two decades ago now.

Anasnake · 10/05/2018 20:30

How do you know it's definitely him and not just someone with the same name because you'll be on very dodgy ground if you're accusing an innocent person ??

NewYearNewMe18 · 10/05/2018 20:31

I doubt they will ban him from school grounds. Ulrika Johnsson openly identified a convicted sex offender at my sons school in the media - he's parent, he's quite entitled to collect his child like any one else and attend parents evening.

The age of consent in the USA varies wildly between states, some states have the Romeo and Juliet laws (ie legal from 12) and others set between 16 and 18.

I'm going to ask what you think will happen by banning him from the school run? This banning of sex offenders around children - don't you ever idly wonder in the queue in the supermarket exactly who is a sex offender, a rapist, a wife beater, murderer? Because I can guarantee you are never more than a few feet away from one or the other.

Incidentally, the NHS is an equal opportunities employer - I work with convicted murderers, convicted wife beaters they are employed by the Trust. So there is some food for thought.

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LIVIA999 · 10/05/2018 20:32

Hi
Thanks for your reply's. I am certainly not intending on spreading the information hence asking here. I am just concerned.
There was an incident involving him and some unpleasant behaviour (not sexual I might add) my friend put his name into google to find his facebook and it came up on a google search, first page on google actually-there was no digging around. With a picture of him. She clicked the link which took them to a sex offenders site.
He sexually assalted a child under 14 when he was late 20s.
I wish I didnt know. I guess if the school know then it probably is okay?

OP posts:

Skarossinkplunger · 10/05/2018 20:34

How do you know?

abbsisspartacus · 10/05/2018 20:34

Is it a uk school?

Skarossinkplunger · 10/05/2018 20:34

Sorry cross post.

wormery · 10/05/2018 20:35

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